AC Milan vs Juventus (game & post-game comments)

Originally Posted by Kui

For you fools criticising Collina, you all need a firm reminding that it was Galliani along with coach Carlo who actually made the request for him to officiate the match. Yes he made some mistakes that may have cost us the match, but dont solely blame him. I dont remember any of you guys making an uproar when he was appointed to this match. It's kind of intellectually dishonest for you guys to start grumbling after the fact. Quit while you are ahead cause those making accusations about the ref are looking really stupid.
Nadir is a member of high standing when reflecting back on the games we play. More so he has taken this loss as a good sport without crying like a big baby. We can learn much from people like him and then be honest in our discussions. Otherwise it is nothing else but a bunch of cry babies.

i have never liked collina he is an attention seeking idiot whose profile is so big just because of his intimidating phyical presence.

hopefully he retires the end of season

Originally Posted by almilan

i have never liked collina he is an attention seeking idiot whose profile is so big just because of his intimidating phyical presence.

hopefully he retires the end of season

OK that is your opinion and I'll respect that. What have you to say to Galliani and Ancelotti for encouraging the league to have him ref this game???

Originally Posted by Kui

For you fools criticising Collina, you all need a firm reminding that it was Galliani along with coach Carlo who actually made the request for him to officiate the match. Yes he made some mistakes that may have cost us the match, but dont solely blame him. I dont remember any of you guys making an uproar when he was appointed to this match. It's kind of intellectually dishonest for you guys to start grumbling after the fact. Quit while you are ahead cause those making accusations about the ref are looking really stupid.
Nadir is a member of high standing when reflecting back on the games we play. More so he has taken this loss as a good sport without crying like a big baby. We can learn much from people like him and then be honest in our discussions. Otherwise it is nothing else but a bunch of cry babies.

Exactly becuase of that. Milan didn't play bad either, and I feel like the way PSV felt a few days ago.

I'm not sure if I would agree with anyone who says tha Milan played badly. Far from it. Milan did create good chances esp. in the second half but didn't manage to score. Perhasp that's something to ponder on.

Finally, whether that's a penalty or not is, as I say, not important. But it's ipmortant for people who didn't watch the match to understand that there WERE indeed some controversy over the two appeals, esp. the one Cafu's shirt tugged from behind. Whether it's a penalty is no longer relevant.

And, at least I don't see Gattuso pulling Del Piero's shirt when Del piero was 'crossing'. That's all I'm saying. It's up to the readers here to judge whether the call is fair. But at that point, only Collina had the power.

Originally Posted by Xudong

You may have seen him for many years, me too. I watched his debut against Milan. So probably I have the say too. The fact that he likes to show his emotions inappropriately decides that he is not going to be liked by me.

Hehe, thats exactly why i hate Henry. His goal celebrations really make me sick. I do agree with you on buffon, although he is a hell of a goalie and deserves some kind of respect.

Originally Posted by Kui

OK that is your opinion and I'll respect that. What have you to say to Galliani and Ancelotti for encouraging the league to have him ref this game???

galliani and ancelotti are not always right, but i doubt they explictly asked for him, maybe when they knew he was likely to be appointed ref they make some encouraging comments about him for 'brownie points'

not that it worked

And what's indeed really soar, is that you see they did foul in the penalty area and not get punished. Whether it's penalty or not, it's no longer relevant. That's how Juventus defended sometimes.

And sadly, we gotta respect referee's decision.

But it's a good point that Collina decided to say Sheva's hand was considered a handball. I'm not sure if that handball is more seriously than the shirt-tugging in that situation. That's why people are angry, Kui, but as I say, Collina is human.

Originally Posted by Kui

For you fools criticising Collina, you all need a firm reminding that it was Galliani along with coach Carlo who actually made the request for him to officiate the match. Yes he made some mistakes that may have cost us the match, but dont solely blame him. I dont remember any of you guys making an uproar when he was appointed to this match. It's kind of intellectually dishonest for you guys to start grumbling after the fact. Quit while you are ahead cause those making accusations about the ref are looking really stupid.
Nadir is a member of high standing when reflecting back on the games we play. More so he has taken this loss as a good sport without crying like a big baby. We can learn much from people like him and then be honest in our discussions. Otherwise it is nothing else but a bunch of cry babies.

Now you are going over the top. I, for one, didn't think Collina was too bad today. But why would you call our fellow milan fans as fools? We were already hurt, and it is SO REASONABLE for me to see them letting the anger out on someone or something. And it is SO RIGHT especially Collina did make some mistake. What's so bad complaining a little bit?

Stop calling fools or crybabies. It is adding insults to injury. AFter all, we are brothers. and Collina is just a friend, to say the most.

For such a blue-ribbon game, it ended up being a scrappy unsofisticated affair, which suited Juve more than us.

We lacked the spark, the creativeness and energy to get the result. The PSV game really drained the team, considering that besides JDT, it was the same 11.

I still believe, but we will need luck, and the assistance from Juve's opponents.

Forza Milan

Originally Posted by ACM

I still believe, but we will need luck, and the assistance from Juve's opponents.

And the assistance of the linesman too.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Exactly becuase of that. Milan didn't play bad either, and I feel like the way PSV felt a few days ago.

I'm not sure if I would agree with anyone who says tha Milan played badly. Far from it. Milan did create good chances esp. in the second half but didn't manage to score. Perhasp that's something to ponder on.

Finally, whether that's a penalty or not is, as I say, not important. But it's ipmortant for people who didn't watch the match to understand that there WERE indeed some controversy over the two appeals, esp. the one Cafu's shirt tugged from behind. Whether it's a penalty is no longer relevant.

And, at least I don't see Gattuso pulling Del Piero's shirt when Del piero was 'crossing'. That's all I'm saying. It's up to the readers here to judge whether the call is fair. But at that point, only Collina had the power.

Even so... we are still getting a very different perspective of the match than what Collina is viewing. We do not know what the play looked like from is eyeballs. Maybe he didnt see anything! It's easy for us cause we watch it from our couches. Makes us the experts doesnt it??

Originally Posted by Kui

Even so... we are still getting a very different perspective of the match than what Collina is viewing. We do not know what the play looked like from is eyeballs. Maybe he didnt see anything! It's easy for us cause we watch it from our couches. Makes us the experts doesnt it??

Of course, and I didn't see all Juve's matches so I'm not going to drag the referee into the scene.

But for all the criticism that you are hearing, from media, newspaper, websites about how Milan lost two games in a row, I assure all you fans (who didn't watch the match) that Milan is far from this so-called crisis.

Funny enough, no one seems to say that Milan is unlucky today, which I think it is so.

Can some people (not just here, but overall) just be fair to Milan's performance like the way Bersluconi did?

And btw, Milan had possession more than Juventus for 8 minutes.

Can someone tell me that Milan is indeed unlucky today? thanks.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I assure all you fans (who didn't watch the match) that Milan is far from this so-called crisis.

Funny enough, no one seems to say that Milan is unlucky today, which I think it is so.

Can some people (not just here, but overall) just be fair to Milan's performance like the way Bersluconi did?

yeah milan were unlucky and they are not in a crisis in terms of performance levels today

Originally Posted by almilan

i have never liked collina he is an attention seeking idiot whose profile is so big just because of his intimidating phyical presence.

hopefully he retires the end of season

You are just being mean to Collina. You are obviously biased, IMHO.

he messed up big time in the chelsea barca game too so its not just milan.

he could have however done us a favour there because he had disallowed chelseas last minute goal like he should have we would in all likelihood be playing barca in the final who are far superior in my opinion to liverpool.

still im not going to forgive him

but i must say for such an incompent referee he has certainly done well for himself advertising etc