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Old 11-06-2005, 08:47   #571

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requilme already is moving to villareal, they offered 5mil€ to barca, and a 4year contract.

milito could be a good signing., i agree with u guys.
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but what u think about bovo?
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:39   #572

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If we want him, this won't be a problem. The problem is that Riquelme is very inconsistent in his performances - he could be god-like in one game and then the next one, totally invisible. He is a very good player though, and on his day, even a great one.
That could be said about every player not just Riqueleme. And if you saw his play this past season, he was anything but inconsistent. Obviously he had some superb games, and others not so good.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:42   #573

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I am sure out there, there are people who would call even Nesta average and overrated, but I honestly don't think he is, after seeing him play in so many games.
I agree with Maradona10 on G Milito, he is one of the young and very, very solid defenders, who could be an option for Milan when they start rejuvenating their defence. Milito was easily one of the 2-3 best defenders, in my opinion the best, in La Liga this season and made the Real M medical team look like a bunch of jackasses for it was them who stopped his transfer from Independiente to Real. After that he signed with Zaragoza, and became one of the revelations of the season in Spain. Ironically, in the direct game, not sure if it was on Bernabeu, Milito singlehandedly made Raul, Ronnie and co disappear from the field and Zaragoza won 1-0, I think, but could be wrong about the final result.
One problem I think Milito could have is the arial battles - he is not very high, and although he compensates this with good jumping abilities, this could be a problem for him against physically stronger oponents. One thing's for sure, I wouldn't exactly recommend him to an EPL team
And Milito is also a leader on the pitch, not just another defender. In that position you have to be vocal, and Milito knows how to control his team from behind. Sooner or later he will join one of the big clubs, I hope it is Milan.

And who is Tim Vickery?
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:56   #574

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And Milito is also a leader on the pitch, not just another defender. In that position you have to be vocal, and Milito knows how to control his team from behind. Sooner or later he will join one of the big clubs, I hope it is Milan.

And who is Tim Vickery?
tim vickery is one of the leading sports journalists in south american football.

he has a south american column with bbc and is also the south american correspondant for world soccer magazine.

and if you really know your football and your awards you`ll also know that world soccer magazine host the prestigious world player of the year voted by fans across the world.....

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Old 11-06-2005, 12:59   #575

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tim vickery is one of the leading sports journalists in south american football.

he has a south american column with bbc and is also the south american correspondant for world soccer magazine.

and if you really know your football and your awards you`ll also know that world soccer magazine host the prestigious world player of the year voted by fans across the world.....

So Vickery is in South America? Milito has long left Argentina. And again, I have more trust on Brindisi, Bielsa, Pekerman, Gallego than Tim Vickery. I have more trust on a coach than a journalist. I have more trust on a guy that coached Milito than a guy that watched Milito a couple of times on TV.

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good for you....
lets just see what this milito does then. just wondering why wasn`t he in the brazil game?
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Old 11-06-2005, 13:08   #577

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Im reading here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ll/4076218.stm

and his analysis is average at best. And his columns as well. Good for Vickery's readers.
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Old 11-06-2005, 13:13   #578

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good for you....
lets just see what this milito does then. just wondering why wasn`t he in the brazil game?
And what has the national team to do with Milito as a player? Is a coach that picks 20-25 players to represent one nation at a given moment.

This being said, It looks like Tim Vickery didnt report that Milito was one of the best players in the game that Argentina played against Ecuador last saturday. Pekerman made 2 teams, one to play against Ecuador on saturday and one to play against Brazil last wednesday. If Milito wasnt the man of the match against Ecuador, from the argentinean side, its more than close. He came close to starting against Brazil, but Pekerman went with a different scheme.

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Im reading here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ll/4076218.stm

and his analysis is average at best. And his columns as well. Good for Vickery's readers.
im not going to get drawn into "petty" arguemnts based on your judgement, lets just see what milito does.....
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im not going to get drawn into "petty" arguemnts based on your judgement, lets just see what milito does.....
Well, he has done a lot so far in his young carrer, including titles with Argentina (U-x), Independiente and a transfer to Real Madrid that wasnt completed because he was "Milito" and not "Beckham".

But really, nothing against you Matnat, but its the first time I read about this Vickery guy and I wasnt impressed from what I read.
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Well, he has done a lot so far in his young carrer, including titles with Argentina (U-x), Independiente and a transfer to Real Madrid that wasnt completed because he was "Milito" and not "Beckham".

But really, nothing against you Matnat, but its the first time I read about this Vickery guy and I wasnt impressed from what I read.
you should read alot more of his posts...

that post he was commenting ont he argentian vs brazil game.

i watched the game then read his article and i thought it was quite good.

hes written loads on south american football, you should have a look at the selection of other posts on that page on the right hand side, he talks about evreything and anything to do with south american football, his knowledge is unbelievable..
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For example, saying that Riquelme dissapeared after the 30 minute mark when Renato came in is ridiculous. Roman didnt even play the second half, he was non existent. Not just after that 30 minute mark, and not because Renato replaced Robinho.

And again, is he in South America 24x7?
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For example, saying that Riquelme dissapeared after the 30 minute mark when Renato came in is ridiculous. Roman didnt even play the second half, he was non existent. Not just after that 30 minute mark, and not because Renato replaced Robinho.

And again, is he in South America 24x7?
yeah hes based in south america.

so why did brazil dominate the last 30 mins then?
i thought it was because they brought on another holding midfielder as ze roberto is useless in helping emerson provide cover for the defence.

i thought renato helped emerson in providing a platform for brazils attacks as well as a shield for there back four.
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yeah hes based in south america.

so why did brazil dominate the last 30 mins then?
i thought it was because they brought on another holding midfielder as ze roberto is useless in helping emerson provide cover for the defence.

i thought renato helped emerson in providing a platform for brazils attacks as well as a shield for there back four.
Brazil dominated the entire second half, they were even better when Renato came in. But Riquelme was non existent in the second half. Before and After Renato came in.

So if he is based in South America his opinion about Milito isnt the best you can get, even if he has certain knowledge.
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Old 14-06-2005, 17:19   #585

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Looks like Samuel will sign with Inter (Loan). Damn, why cant we get him on loan? And they are getting Solari, too. Both fine players. I dont know how Santiago's game translates to Calcio, but he is indeed talented and a way better player than Kily Gonzalez.
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