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Old 08-04-2006, 15:12   #121

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I see u have some comprehension problems, u just gave me some facts on the ww2 and cold war, that most of them unrelevant to our debate. And then u tryed to give some false definitions to different terms like what is nuclear war and massacre. I'm gonna devide ur post into number of paragraphs and relate to each one of them, and to show how full of sh*t are u.


When? Where? I quoted u saying that Cuban Crisis was the closest that was to nucleur war. I don't remember u calling any war as a nucleur war, and especial didn't quote u doing so. This is the first time u are full of sh*t.


Here u are munipulating our debate to make things easy on u, as I already said it's all game of words. The definition of Nuclear War is : "Nuclear war, or atomic war, is war in which nuclear weapons are used." I checked that on babylon and wikipedia, and u can do the same. But why isn't it considered as a nuclear war? Because history is written by the winners and americans don't want this big stain on their conscience and image. How could they play this roll of good guys protecting the world from communism and terror if in every discussion in the UN they were blamed for this and compared with the nazis or something. I'm sure if it was on the contrary, and americans were bombed without responding, they would call it a "Nuclear War".

And lets look the definition of the word massacre: "events of deliberate and direct mass killing, especially of noncombatant civilians or other innocents, that would often qualify as war crimes or atrocities". It doesn's depend who is bombing who, and even in case of two nations bombing each other it would still be considered as a massacre. So in case of what u call a "nuclear war" avoiding a massacre is impossible. On this paragraph u get 2 points of being full of sh*t.


Yes, thank u for the history lesson... but what's that has to do to anything? I wanted to go easy on u and give u only half point, but cause u babbled so much without point in this one u'll get a full point of being full of sh*t.



I already invited u to Flamer's Paradise, but u are must waiting to moderators to interfere and stop our debate and save ur sorry azz. For this one u get another point.
So u gathered 5 points of bullsh*ting, and that's alot for smart boy like u!!! As I already said man... u are simply full of sh*t.
Look, twist my words anyway you wish - and btw, when you quote someone, you are not supposed to manipulate their words as you did in that 1st quote. You can roll that dice as it suits you but you can't change the facts of history.
As for being afraid of moderators, ha, I think you have a much richer experience with these things than anyone here.
Sasha, don't you have more improtant matters to attend to. For example, let me see if I can say it in russian - edna terapia.
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Old 08-04-2006, 15:14   #122

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damn I only wanted to know how come the americans are allowed to visit Cuba.
in the very same way you are allowed to visit the Czech Republic, I am guessing.
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Old 08-04-2006, 15:20   #123

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It might be a good idea if a mod erased the last couple of pages with posts 'cause this thread went a little too far in the wrong direction.
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Old 08-04-2006, 15:45   #124

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Well in that first quote "No, but I did and you quoted me on it." u was referring to the Cuban Crisis, else what?
Man u are full of sh*t, what Czech Rep. got to do with it? Czech Rep. considered themself as an occupied nation by Soviet Union, Cuba on the other hand was voluntary ally of USSR... americans tried to invade it, tried to kill their leader and make life there very difficult for citizens by trade embargos. Czech Rep. even considered today as american ally (backed them up in UN before Iraq war and sent troops there after).
If u go to Iran and people there discover u are american, they will lynch u at the main square, and americans didn't do them even half problems they did to cubans. So how comes u can walk around free in Cuba and chill like nothing never happened, or even not happening till today??? That's my point!!!! U dare to call me stupid?? U don't know sh*t...

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Old 08-04-2006, 15:49   #125

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P.S. Sorry got confused, u were referring to Japan and not Cuban Crisis in that quote. But what's the difference, u contradicting urself anyway. U are saying that Hiroshima and Nagasaki wasn't a nuclear war, so how could I quoted u calling it as one????
I see where we missunderstood each other:
U said that Cuban Crisis was the closest the war was to nuclear war. Than I asked u if u heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and u thought that I meant that it was a nucleaur war. But I meant that it was closer to nuclear war than Cuban Crisis... lol we made a mess out of it.
It's very hard to debate this kind of why, not face to face. There are many missunderstandings and mistakes, and we both did twisted each other words. U know why we don't get alone? Cause we both think that we are too smart...

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Old 08-04-2006, 16:03   #126

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"That's my point!!!! U idiot, U dare to call me stupid?? U don't know sh*t... stupid moron." I see u are very nice, polite person.
"If u go to Iran and people there discover u are american, they will lynch u at the main square, " hahaha one of the most stupid ting that i read in my life lol.
u are god aleksandar.
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Old 08-04-2006, 16:05   #127

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Zlatan I think I ready for truce with u... we both need to chill, and we both do attack people when they think different, I saw u doing it few times. I think I have to apologise to some members of this forum, but not to u Zlatan, cause u are the same azzhole like me.
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Old 08-04-2006, 16:10   #128

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Who is this King tiger? He is spoiling the moment, lol... Well tiger I just have to say I saw many times on TV how the iranians burning american flags, iranian soldiers walking on it (humiliate it) and stuff like that. So why don't cubans do that??? They suffered much more, and still they are cool with americans, just can't understand why. Different mentality I guess..
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Old 08-04-2006, 16:22   #129

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I will go for this.I think we need a 4-4-2 system.That way we will have width and also the extra manpower to deal with the threat of Messi and Ronaldinho from the wings.





...... Dida.........

Cafu...Nesta....Kaladze...Maldini....

Kaka...Gattuso...Seedorf..Serginho..

........Sheva......Pippo.......

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...... Dida.........

Cafu...Nesta....Kaladze...Maldini....

Pirlo...Gattuso...Seedorf..Serginho..

........Sheva......Pippo.......



Pirlo doeas have a great right foot,stick him on the wing to deliver great crosses.
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Old 08-04-2006, 16:23   #130

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well i saw them burning the american flags, so what?burning flag is not killing.
Your facts are weird.About that cuban folks it may be coz amount of them hate Castro and comunnism.
P.S:this needs to stop.No more politics on Milan-Barca topic
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Old 08-04-2006, 16:24   #131

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whats this???? I m just reading some commenst here wowwww this forum definitly should be renamed, we have comments aboout war, crisis, bombs nuclear... i really dont know what is all about this thread is about milan and barca do we expect war in that game crises nuclear bombs if we gonna have that im goin to kill my self before that war .

if someone has a desire to comment about war go to aonther forum cause this is all about milan and sport and Im 100% sure u dont know nothing about war u just may talk about it but you dont know in a reality what war is.
We are just few members who knows something about war if u wanna know about is ask members from ballkan bosnia ,croatia, kosovo,slovenia or people from warplace.

please stop talkin about it here, if Im wrong than sorry and i apologise to everyone here.
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Old 08-04-2006, 17:49   #132

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Well I'm from Israel, so we know a thing or two about wars too...
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Old 08-04-2006, 18:57   #133

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please everybody. i respect ur posts and thoughts alot! Infact sometime i feel that u post real quality stuff! but this fight that is going on...please forget it man!

no one benefits from these fights it just disturbs the mood of the forum! u are one of the best posters!
its a request! please dont take it personally!!

we r such a good forum with decent members. dont screw our image!
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Old 08-04-2006, 19:30   #134

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Nice thread I opened...)
Sash, nice admission finally in
"I think I have to apologise to some members of this forum, but not to u Zlatan, cause u are the same azzhole like me." Hilarious couple pages.... So I couldn't resist not to comment.
Sash, did you confuse a country name, Guatemala, with Guantanamo (bay) in Cuba?
And by the way... Americans do go to Teheran all the time, the same way as they go to Moscow and Kiev - with extra caution. As they can go to Cuba, but lots of fun once you "tengas dinero" and knowledge of Espaniol that Santiago has is a big plus (just like in my trips to Mexico, my spanish sucks big time - hablo muy poquito).
Sash, if you went to Western Ukraine it would be much easier for you than for a Moscal' who can't underrstand and speak the language.

Inter wins today. No room for procrastination for us tomorrow.
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Old 08-04-2006, 20:36   #135

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Lana, in the first formation you drop Pirlo and the second you drop Kaka, this is not good for the home game which we must attack.

Just a bit of history. The Cuban crisis was just a chess game and very smart move by Soviet leader (SL) and the world was not so close to nuclear war as it appeared.

It started when SL spent the holidays on a beach (I can't recall if it is Black sea or whatever) which was so near to Turkey, 40 miles or so, and he was able to see Turkey across the sea then one of his staffs told him the US had short range nurclear missiles there. He jumped and said " we have to do something about this". 4 months later the Soviet secretly installed some on the short range missiles in Cuba which put all the east cities of the US at risk. Then it turned out a crisis as everybody knows. At the end the US looked victorious when the Soviet pulled their missiles out but a covered part of the deal (very few ones know until these days) was the US also pulled out short range missiles from Turkey. So the victor was the Soviet.

The US and the USSR were never stupid enough to really engage in any real nurclear conflict because they know the outcome if that happens, this is so called statergic balance, so we are still safe. The really threads in the world are from the less civilised nations like Iran, Irag, North Korea, Taliban Afgan, Siria...
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