All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

The more I hear of Milan´s involvement, the less likely I think we will be penalised any at all..but lets see what the courts decide..

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

no, how come?

Can you tell me what it says about Galliani & Milan, or can anyone?

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Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Most of Juve's fans live outside Turin. They have the biggest fanbase in Italy.

Many workers from the South came to Turin to find jobs in industry and supported Juve. That is why Juve have a very strong following in the south for example...

I can understand that , but it is the same for teams such as utd of who half of our stadium are filled from pepole who live down south?
and i again repeat in the eyes of the uk we would c a game againt ac twice as big as one with juve. I was quite supprised to hear juve have such a large fan base. - which begs another question as they are changing there stadium why dont they move to a loacation where they can attract more fans to there matchs ie south?

Originally Posted by REDMAN_WALKING

which begs another question as they are changing there stadium why dont they move to a loacation where they can attract more fans to there matchs ie south?

Because there is no need for something like that. When Juve used to play in Comunale Stadium, it was always full, but when they went to Delle Alpi ( which is very far from Torino, and from what i've read it is the most unpleasant stadium because the wind is killing you all the time!!), the stadium almost never got full.
So, going back to town will probably ( imo, surely) bring back people on stadium !

About some statements here, that this "roumours" about Milan being involved are coming from Juventus...honestly, i very much doubt this, since the man who said it ( if he really said it) is the guy who's investigating the scandal, and who'll maybe be the responsibile one for Juve going down.
So, why will the guy, who'll "kill" Juve, try to save Juve by involving Milan in this matter ???

Oh, and i'm sure Milan was also very very dirty (as i said many times). I don't know if it was only for self protection ( what a stupid excuse, i hope you'll agree ... "we were fixing because Juve was doing it, and we were only striking back..we are victims" ) , or it was because of something else, but the guy who said that Milan didn't have powerful people to fight against Juve ....think again man !!!

Anyway, Milan won't go down, so don't be affraid. It will be eather only Juve, or noone. Milan and Juve down is next to impossibile !

And at the end : Points deduction won't go only for next season. It will go for last 2 seasons also. And if both Milan and Juve are convicted for match fixing or similar stuff ( no matter the final punishment), then it will mean that the Scudettos won't (and can't) go in Torino or in AC Milan..... and if Scudettos won't be vindicated, then the worst follows.... you know what i mean !!!

Originally Posted by REDMAN_WALKING

I can understand that , but it is the same for teams such as utd of who half of our stadium are filled from pepole who live down south?
and i again repeat in the eyes of the uk we would c a game againt ac twice as big as one with juve. I was quite supprised to hear juve have such a large fan base. - which begs another question as they are changing there stadium why dont they move to a loacation where they can attract more fans to there matchs ie south?

Part of the problem is also their stadium is very ugly and has a track between the stands and the pitch. They say the Delle Alpi view is horrible.

The south was just one example. Juve have fans all over. With their attendances I know it is hard to believe...

I think we are really in trouble ...
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=78017
www.channel4.com

Originally Posted by sheva-gila

I think we are really in trouble ...
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=78017
www.channel4.com

Um the first link has already been discussed and the second one leads to the main channel 4 site :S...

oke sorry than but I havent seen for the first, about channel4 I meant http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...paperssay.html

im worried about this, corriele dello sport said that if Milan go down, we will lose Ancelloti with Kakà, Cafù, Nesta, Kaladze, Pirlo e Seedorf. And it would cost us arround 160 mln euros.

For italys sake it would be a bad day for football if Milan, Juve, Lazio and fiorentina all get relegated. There would be chaos over tv rights and all the Seria B clubs would complain that its unfair that they are compeating against Milan, lazio, and fiorentina...

If there was a Milan system, it did a sh*t job.. Hopefully that can be seen.

If we start next season -15 points i would be happy with that at the moment.

Also whats the score with inter and milan sharing the same stadium , dosnt that P iss you off? - as you cant truly say this is our ground or is it a case of this is our ground and we let inter play on it?

Originally Posted by Graeme C

im worried about this, corriele dello sport said that if Milan go down, we will lose Ancelloti with Kakà, Cafù, Nesta, Kaladze, Pirlo e Seedorf. And it would cost us arround 160 mln euros.

For italys sake it would be a bad day for football if Milan, Juve, Lazio and fiorentina all get relegated. There would be chaos over tv rights and all the Seria B clubs would complain that its unfair that they are compeating against Milan, lazio, and fiorentina...

If there was a Milan system, it did a sh*t job.. Hopefully that can be seen.

If we start next season -15 points i would be happy with that at the moment.

yes and -21 is oki but seria b **** **** meani

Lol guys and girls, you kinda remind me of myself and other Juventini 1 month ago when similar things were scaring us.
I wouldn't go that far as some of you here, about all 4 clubs being relegated, and in your place, i wouldn't worry so much about Milan being relegated, but i'd worry about future transfers, because even with points deduction, Milan will have hard time bying players, and some of your players will like to leave if it's proven that Milan was also deeply into the scandal sh*t !
Kaka may be the first one to leave. If what's said about Real interested in him true, and he wouldn't mind going to Madrid, then this may be a perfect reason for him to leave !


About Milan system doing a bad job....we can't say this until we know when did everything start. If everything started 5 years ago, then it will be true because Milan won only 1 Scudetto. If it started 10 years ago (when Moggi became GD in Juventus), then the result is : Juve 6 Scudettos, Milan 3 Scudettos, and i won't say Milan system was not functioning..i'll say it was functioning but not as good as Moggi's. But if we find out that everything started 15 years ago(when Moggi came in Juve), or 20 years ago when Berlu came in Milan, then the result is 7:6 for Juve in last 15 years, and 8:7 for Milan in last 20 years........we have to see when did it begin !

I think that even if there were no systems, Milan and Juve were still the best, and they would have still been the teams to win most of the trophyes, but it's really hard to say it now, when we know what Moggi was doing, and what Meani was doing.

Once ( here on MM) i asked the same question, why Juve has 7 scudettos since Moggi came, and Milan 6 scudettos..and your answer was because Milan was by far the best team and Juve was only fixing.
Ok, i respect your opinion if you still think the same, but i don't agree with it.

Corriere dello Sport says 'We’ll know this evening of the charges against Juve, Milan and Co'. Is that really the case ? Will we really know this evening ? If so, hooray to that, then we can start to see an end to all this speculation.

Corriere dello Sport is very anti-Milan. I would not take anything they say too seriously. It would be really bad if we knew today since the national team is playing tomorrow. I care more about Italy right now.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Can you tell me what it says about Galliani & Milan, or can anyone?

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Sorry, I have no idea what it says.

As for the matter, I'm currently ignoring the press about it as they are going to aim to get sales, this means they'll twist up information in order to grab attention.