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Old 22-08-2006, 18:09   #421

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I've been reading these forums since about 99 and never actually felt the need to post something over all these years even though there have been some absolutely ridiculous points brought up about players we've bought who everyone said was a waste of our money and players who we should def get rid off cause they will never be milan quality, but those same players are now considered untouchables by many fans.

What is truly shocking bout this is that we are talking bout buying prob the best striker over the last 10 years who is a massive name(with massive size behind him, sorry just couldn't help my self) which many ppl in here have been crying for ever since sheva decided that he couldn't tell his kid he loved him in italian and went off to england to learn how to say it.

Now anyone, even those ppl who still believe that ronaldo is the best striker in the world must admit that anyone who would consider buying him at this stage is a leap of faith cause not only does he look like he's completely out of shape compared to any pro footballer anywhere in the world but he also seems to lack the drive to give his best out on the pitch and i'm not stating that as a fact but thats just my opinion and he may have reasons for that, which none of us will ever know about but the fact of the matter is that within him, somewhere really, really, really, really deep down that talent that set the world on fire is still there and if he can find the right place to go where he can bring that talent to the surface again would you not like that to be at milan.

Now i know even if he does reach his absolute peak if he does join us which is still a very big if at this stage we are not gonna witness the man who was at barcelona or even in his early inter days before the injuries but i'm pretty damn sure that he will be a force cause any man who can score 3 goals at the WC without barely breaking into a jog, well lets just say thats not the easiest thing in the world to do.

Plus anyway lets not forget he has played for Inter and i don't know bout the rest of you but i'm pretty damn excited when i hear we gonna sign anyone who's played for them cause anyone who's ever been there has seemed to be pretty awesome for us, i mean i even have faith in favalli having a pretty awesome season this year plus what would be sweeter than to have moratti's "love child" lead our attack to the scudetto this year with a points penalty and to be quite honest with you i can't think of anything sweeter

Well i guess all i'm trying to say is that yeah i know that this is a massive gamble but what the hell i'm all for it.
Hi, G_G. Welcome to the forums or at least congrats on your first post.
I guess your post should be made a sticky as an example for others how one could critisize Ronaldo and his possible acquisition by Milan without being disrespectful to the player or Milan Management.
And your post could also serve as an example for a certain member - who gaveus his word he would leave MM should Milan sign Ronaldo - that on this forum it is also possible to voice one's opinion in more than a half-line sentence that's being repeated over and over and over again.
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:12   #422

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ok... so Bonera is Stam's replacement... just a scenario... next season... Costacurta & Maldini retires... Cafu & Serginho follows... we need to find 4 defenders to replace them... woohoo... let's set a world record of leakin' in goals if we fail to get them replaced... and let's assume we do replace all 4 of them... but they never settle in... Serie B never look any more likely...
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:14   #423

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CARLO ANCELOTTI: ’Means a lot to us’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Carlo Ancelotti said this after the game: ’The Champions League means a lot to us and we have managed to qualify. Some of the players came back straight away and made their contribution. We still consider the fact we had to play this preliminary round as an injustice. I am pleased for the players even if Ronaldo can return to being the strongest striker in the world. I am only thinking about qualification now. Milan will play their part.’
They're all at it!

CLARENCE SEEDORF: ’Great Milan’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Clarence Seedorf said: ’We still don’t really know why we had to play this game. A great Milan, as a team and as a group. We can improve but we have the spirit to win. If Ronie arrives then I will be pleased. I don’t believe in formality, work and everyone is happy.’


RINO GATTUSO: ‘We’re back in the Champions League’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Rino Gattuso said: ‘We weren’t at 100% and we are happy with our performance. We are back in the Champions League and we deserve this. I put my hand in the fire for our managers. We paid too dearly. I hope a major signing like Ronaldo arrives, we would want a champion like that in our group. We are competitive and can go all the way, we'll see what the transfer market throws up but if no one arrives we certainly aren't a little side.'


DARIO SIMIC: ‘A very important game’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Dario Simic spoke with the Milan Channel after putting on a strong performance in tonight’s win against Red Star Belgrade, he said: ‘It was a very important game for us, we suddenly found ourselves having to play it but it went well. The fans were always correct with us. Ronaldo could bring some enthusiasm.’


GALLIANI: ‘Inzaghi is the strongest striker in Europe’
8/22/2006
BELGRADE - Adriano Galliani spoke about the game against Red Star: ‘This is the greatest Champions League victory, it is a dream. It has restarted everything, Milan will continue to be at the center of Europe. With our natural assets we are second to none. We have the strongest striker in Europe, Pippo Inzaghi. We have officially requested Real Madrid to open negotiations on the possible transfer of Ronaldo, but the players that we have are good.’


Nice posts in this thread too guys, like from Warro and G_Gattuso.
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:19   #424

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"A Ronaldo for Kaka swap wouldnt be a bad idea" - Ramon Calderon
Certainly not a bad idea if you have just had to renege on your election pledge. To anyone else, it's just crazy talk.

Now we're through, I just hope we do ourselves justice in the market.

For me, Ronaldo is welcome. His record is undeniable, he is not in his best condition, but he will still score goals. I like Gila but he is still to score at the highest level (CL) and was ineffective in Germany.

The key thing is that Ronaldo does not come alone, Tevez or Sobis or Torres should come too, and soon this summer has left me jittery.
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:20   #425

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They're all at it!

CLARENCE SEEDORF: ’Great Milan’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Clarence Seedorf said: ’We still don’t really know why we had to play this game. A great Milan, as a team and as a group. We can improve but we have the spirit to win. If Ronie arrives then I will be pleased. I don’t believe in formality, work and everyone is happy.’


RINO GATTUSO: ‘We’re back in the Champions League’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Rino Gattuso said: ‘We weren’t at 100% and we are happy with our performance. We are back in the Champions League and we deserve this. I put my hand in the fire for our managers. We paid too dearly. I hope a major signing like Ronaldo arrives, we would want a champion like that in our group. We are competitive and can go all the way, we'll see what the transfer market throws up but if no one arrives we certainly aren't a little side.'


DARIO SIMIC: ‘A very important game’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Dario Simic spoke with the Milan Channel after putting on a strong performance in tonight’s win against Red Star Belgrade, he said: ‘It was a very important game for us, we suddenly found ourselves having to play it but it went well. The fans were always correct with us. Ronaldo could bring some enthusiasm.’


GALLIANI: ‘Inzaghi is the strongest striker in Europe’
8/22/2006
BELGRADE - Adriano Galliani spoke about the game against Red Star: ‘This is the greatest Champions League victory, it is a dream. It has restarted everything, Milan will continue to be at the center of Europe. With our natural assets we are second to none. We have the strongest striker in Europe, Pippo Inzaghi. We have officially requested Real Madrid to open negotiations on the possible transfer of Ronaldo, but the players that we have are good.’


Nice posts in this thread too guys, like from Warro and G_Gattuso.
You are getting me all excited right now.
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:26   #426

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You are getting me all excited right now.
abou what? About getting Ronie or ... about seeing someone go
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Old 22-08-2006, 18:52   #427

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They're all at it!

CLARENCE SEEDORF: ’Great Milan’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Clarence Seedorf said: ’We still don’t really know why we had to play this game. A great Milan, as a team and as a group. We can improve but we have the spirit to win. If Ronie arrives then I will be pleased. I don’t believe in formality, work and everyone is happy.’


RINO GATTUSO: ‘We’re back in the Champions League’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Rino Gattuso said: ‘We weren’t at 100% and we are happy with our performance. We are back in the Champions League and we deserve this. I put my hand in the fire for our managers. We paid too dearly. I hope a major signing like Ronaldo arrives, we would want a champion like that in our group. We are competitive and can go all the way, we'll see what the transfer market throws up but if no one arrives we certainly aren't a little side.'


DARIO SIMIC: ‘A very important game’
8/23/2006
BELGRADE - Dario Simic spoke with the Milan Channel after putting on a strong performance in tonight’s win against Red Star Belgrade, he said: ‘It was a very important game for us, we suddenly found ourselves having to play it but it went well. The fans were always correct with us. Ronaldo could bring some enthusiasm.’


GALLIANI: ‘Inzaghi is the strongest striker in Europe’
8/22/2006
BELGRADE - Adriano Galliani spoke about the game against Red Star: ‘This is the greatest Champions League victory, it is a dream. It has restarted everything, Milan will continue to be at the center of Europe. With our natural assets we are second to none. We have the strongest striker in Europe, Pippo Inzaghi. We have officially requested Real Madrid to open negotiations on the possible transfer of Ronaldo, but the players that we have are good.’


Nice posts in this thread too guys, like from Warro and G_Gattuso.

Well let's see.....leaving out my own judgement for the moment... whose judgement would I rather rely on? Would it be a list of quality footballers who have just put Milan into the Champions League proper, have given a lot of great service to the club and who actually know something about football (plus an administrator who has helped to make Milan the most successful club in the world over the past couple of decades)? Or should I rely on the judgement of a bunch of guys sitting around typing at a keyboard who can't manage to express a coherent idea or any line of reasoning so instead they resort to an endless stream of childish namecalling? Hmmmmm......who could it be now?

As I pointed out much earlier in this thread, Ronaldo has scored 97 goals in 118 games for Real Madrid. His goalscoring record over the past four seasons is among the best in the world (far better, actually, than Shevchenko's). Even last year, when he was injured and out of shape, he still managed to score 14 goals in just 23 appearances. That's more goals in 23 games than the great Ferdando Torres -- who seems to have half the posters on this board pleasing themselves over him -- scored in 35 games. Yet somehow Ronaldo's career is proclaimed to be over and Torres is the second coming of van Basten.

It's entirely possible that all Ronaldo needs is a change of scenery to spark that desire inside him. It happens time and again. And with a bit of work on his fitness, I have little doubt he would be a 20-plus goalscorer this year just as he was his first three years at Madrid.

Now, would I trade Kaka for him? Of course not! Would I blow all the money Chelsea paid for Shevchenko? No. But if Milan were to buy him for 10-12 million pounds, that would be a gamble well worth making. And if he doesn't pan out, so what? Milan isn't going to be broken by 10 or 12 million pounds, more or less. Yet some of you act as if Milan buying Ronaldo would result in the downfall of Western Civilization and the coming of the Apocalypse!

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I swear if we waste another minute trying to get that saber-toothed, jiggling tub of guts I will jam a pen in my neck. Seriously, this guy is way, way past it. Ok, scored that one goal in the Cup against Ghana but what the heck else? No way the Brazilians here will change him compared to the others at Real. We'll continue coddling him and this disgusting hobby of stuffing his grill with custard-filled crullers will go unabated.

The Milan "braintrust" really need to get their heads examined. What's going on with Gallas? He wants Milan! And he's relegated to Chelsea's reserves, waiting to be plucked! And what about Tevez? Didn't he explicitly say that he would entertain offers from us?

We are through to the group stages. If we don't anything by next Monday we're screwed.
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Rick & G_G nicely put, common sense very well said. If Ronaldo comes, it will not make us nor break us as a team and I will welcome him from the bottom of my red & black heart.
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G_Gattuso and RICK made awesome posts in favour of the transfer!

I think it is worthwhile to just wait and see what the management does. We MUST trust the management as we have done all these years. Each year they are accused of some transfer or the other and they build a competitive, successful team. They will do it again this year.

Just have faith in their ability and sit back and relax instead of trying to accuse them of deliberately destroying the team.
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Rick & G_G nicely put, common sense very well said. If Ronaldo comes, it will not make us nor break us as a team and I will welcome him from the bottom of my red & black heart.
ronaldo 30 years!!!!!!ronaldo is finished for me. we need youngster players not fat rounie
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Old 22-08-2006, 19:31   #432

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Im sure some would have defended the Vieri signing the same way...
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And let me just add this guy went and had knee surgery after the WC without consenting with his team first. And we all know what happened when he and his knees were with Inter. What's up with that? Are you guys who are for this transfer willing to risk a sizable amount of our transfer budget on this horsecrap? Heavy playing weight is one thing. Heavy playing weight on two bad knees is a recipe for disaster and wasted money on has-been talent. And don't give me this he scored this many goals in this many games blah-blah-blah-blah gibberish. We are in need of a scorer who also has support qualities as well. At RM all he did was finish off the great work provided to him.
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ronaldo 30 years!!!!!!ronaldo is finished for me. we need youngster players not fat rounie
Ronaldo is seven days older than Shevchenko. Were you clamoring to get rid of him because of his age?

Oh, and thanks guys for the kind words. Just trying to bring a little reason to this silly discussion.
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Old 22-08-2006, 20:21   #435

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I really dont want him at Milan!
No offense to any Ronaldo fans..its just that...he's not really a soccer star anymore.Well i mean ppl stil love him,but he cant play good anymore.Srry,yea Ricky would be happy ,but he just cant come!
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