Milan CL Discussion

As you can see we have the most points of all the teams, but because of the Calciopoli-scandal, we have been ranked as number 2. Under normal circumstances we would be number 1.

I thought we were at #2 spot because #1 is reserved for the title holders?
If we get Porto, Anderlecht, Bremen, it will be like 93/94 where Milan won in the championship in Athens (where the final will be held this year).

Originally Posted by arcy

I thought we were at #2 spot because #1 is reserved for the title holders?

No. It has nothing to do with that. It is based strictly on points gained over the last 5 seasons.

Nr 1 it is for the title holders
In ranking points we are NR 1

If it makes you feel better, Milan is number 1 in UEFA ranking based on coefficients

For the purposes the draw, title holders are at the top.

Are you guys sure?

I read somewhere that Milan lost the number 1 spot because of the Calciopoli-scandal..?

But maybe I'm wrong...

Yup! Milan is #1 except for drawing purposes.

Page 16 - Seeding of Clubs
http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf

Hmm...If there was Juventus, 3 Italy teams at top 5.

Originally Posted by arcy

If it makes you feel better, Milan is number 1 in UEFA ranking based on coefficients

For the purposes the draw, title holders are at the top.

agree with arcy.
Putting Barca on top of pot 1is purely because they are the current champs and is not related to their standing in the table with coefficients.
This pot-placement is not related with Milan being punished for calciopoli as it hardly makes any sense UEFA to put us 2nd instead of 1st ... if we were being punished for it, we would be in pot 4 with the weakest of the teams.
In fact, if UEFA had any legal grounds to punish us, wewould have never been allowed in the competition to begin with, something they made very clear in an official statement. Basically the only reason why we are in the CL this year is not because UEFAbelieve we are innocent and we deserve to be in it, but because UEFA's current regulations have not foreseen, and are thus inapplicable, for this sort of situation.

Originally Posted by arcy

Yup! Milan is #1 except for drawing purposes.

Page 16 - Seeding of Clubs
http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf

Yes you're right.

Page 10, Article 6, Paragraph 6.05:

"The title-holder is always the top seed."

Originally Posted by Capo Ultra

In my opinion the easiest group would be the following:

Milan
Lille
Steaua Bucharest
FC Copenhagen

between groups 3 and 4 steaua could be in the first 3 teams anytime , but i agree with you , it could be easier with them , cause romanian teams never played well against italian teams .

well i want chelsea so we can teach sheva and the blues a lesson that if we bought some big names before the transfer window closes.

idea: do guys think the draw will affect our transfer market like if we get weak teams we will but anyone maybe just iuaqinta or if we get strong teams we wuld bye evryone? that wuld realy suck.

Originally Posted by Milany

well i want chelsea so we can teach sheva and the blues a lesson that if we bought some big names before the transfer window closes.

idea: do guys think the draw will affect our transfer market like if we get weak teams we will but anyone maybe just iuaqinta or if we get strong teams we wuld bye evryone? that wuld realy suck.

If that was the case, it would mean that Milan would be taking teams lightly and that spells disaster. Whether we have a tough group or not we will eventually meet up with the better sides so the transfer market should have nothing to do with the draw.

By the way what time is the draw (in EST)

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Damn I just saw Lyon are seeded #2!! UEFA really need to change their rules.. I cannot also believe how Barca is ranked 2..for the last few seasons they have reached no where in UCL and only passed QF last year where they won it and now they're 2nd place!

This is how it goes :

Every win in qualification matches, no matter if it's CL or UEFA Cup, gets you 1 point, while every draw gets you 0.50 points.
In UEFA and CL group stages every win gets you 2 points, while every draw 1 point.
Only being in CL group stages brings you 3 points, while everytime you eliminate a club in 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 finals or final, you get extra 1 point (win also brings 2 points and draw 1 points in late knock out stages).
Every team also gets some points based on their country coefficient.
Points from last 5 years are counted, and you get final standings.

So, one team may play in UEFA Cup only in last 5 years, and still be Nr.1 in UEFA club standings. That's why Steaua has so many points, because last year they got more points than every other team but Barcelona.

Next year, we may still be on top, because points from season 2001/02 won't be counted anymore, and in that season Milan played in UEFA Cup, where we got 23 points.
We need to have great CL season to get 23 points back and keep the top.

This is complete list, with last 5 seasons and points per season :

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...trank2006.html

Originally Posted by CuoreRossoNero

By the way what time is the draw (in EST)

I think it's 12 noon. I'm excited

i really dont mind but i DO NOT want chelsea

nope it would be 2 easy

i want 2 face chelsea in the semis or even the final, the final wer as usual jon terry cries hes eyes out, and the milan players are laffin in their faces

yehhhhhhhhhhh