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Old 27-08-2006, 16:28   #16

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The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
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Old 27-08-2006, 16:32   #17

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I dont have no doubt that cicinho is better than Oddo, for that I m sure,when we talk about Alves thats a different story, couse this guy is incredible, but his hard to get or very expensive. Cicinho is available and not expensive.And we need a full back, not that Cafu is over, by far his better than most of this guys mentioned above. but we new bood
yeah I agree with you mate but about his defensiv skills thats true he prefers more atacking RB
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Old 27-08-2006, 18:10   #18

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yeah I agree with you mate but about his defensiv skills thats true he prefers more atacking RB
But the thing is that we need more of a attacking full back than a defensive one, I mean Carlo prefers atacking one, if it was the other case we would use bonera instead.But I agree with you,he needs improvmentin the defensive part , thats for sure.

On the other hand we need to improve our relationship with Real, and I think this could help the process, Lets face the fact Milan and Real are the best teams in the history and they need a healthy relationship.
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Old 27-08-2006, 18:54   #19

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we should get oddo and next year go for Alves when Cafu retires. Cicingo cant defend -cant play for milan as a full back.

i am agree with u
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Old 27-08-2006, 21:31   #20

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The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
This is very true Rick, RM wants to get rid of Ronaldo yet they demand us 25m, this is really rediculous, they just want to revenge us for the Kaka saga. As long as Calderon still in charge Milan had better forget any negotiation with them.

The way Berlusconi said "that door is closed" shows that Milan understands Calderon's intention, so that door is closed for Cicinho.
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Old 27-08-2006, 21:45   #21

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The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
Agreed, Rick. I dont think we should be dealing with Real, especially under this current managment. They tried to take full advantage of us during the Ronaldo negotiations. In fact, I felt that we lost a bit of face also because earlier Galliani officially "declared war" on Real only to have to travel there to try and negotiate for Ronaldo, and then get screwed over. What the hell is this, "We dont want money, Milan knows what we want." all about? This Calderon guy is as arrogant and sly as it can get. Now, they have a situation where they want to get rid of a player who is not needed. Why should we help them out? Galliani should give him a call and say, "You know what we want. We dont only want Cicinho. How about Ronaldo plus Cicinho for 1.5M?"
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Old 28-08-2006, 00:40   #22

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I think 8M Euro is worthed for Cicinho.
I like to see full back with great attacking skills,
like zambrotta + grosso bring Italy to the World title.
Cicinho + Serginho/Jankulovski is not bad I think
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Old 28-08-2006, 02:05   #23

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Actually, many of our goals in previous seasons have been because of Cafu's bad positioning. But I agree that he is very intelligent. Thats why Cicinho will improve a lot if he plays along side Cafu in training and everything. Cicinho can also be used in a 4-4-2 formation for us. I think he's much better than Oddo. But there's also another thing we can do: buy Cicinho, send him to Sevilla + say 1-5m and get Alves. Or we can actually ask Betis to give us money + Alves for Cicinho to make them think Cicinho is better and then we eventually settle for a straight swap
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Old 28-08-2006, 05:44   #24

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I highly doubt that Alves will still be at Sevilla next summer, everyone knows Liverpool will go back in January or try to get him first next summer. They had agreed a price and terms with the player, the issue was down to how the installments would be paid.

If we want Alves, we need to get him asap, we can't afford to wait and expect good players not to be snapped up by other clubs.

It doesn't matter how attacking Cicinho is, he still needs to know the basics of defending and if Capello doesn't think he's good enough at right-back, why would we want him ? As already stated Alves & Reveillere are better options albeit more expensive ones.
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Old 28-08-2006, 06:38   #25

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True Cicinho can't defend, but he can learn. I always wanted him to come but then I got a bit angry at him for saying "My dream is to play for Milan" and then goes to Man Utd and Real and tries to negotiate deals with them. Alves is prolly a better option, but Cicinho's attacking skills are second to none. Prolly even better than Cafu!
Is he realy said that? wow ihope he's coming. He is good to backed up gattuso
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Old 28-08-2006, 06:41   #26

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BUt,is milan realy have interest on him????
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Old 28-08-2006, 06:42   #27

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Cicinho woukd really be an asset for Milan, Cafu is fast becoming rusty and now you'd have his NT sub, he's a great player!
If we didn't have Javier or Maicon I'd say get him!
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Old 29-08-2006, 00:10   #29

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A full doesnt have to be the best tackler. He is quick and dribbles and crosses well and will cover the whole field. Good backup. Signing Alves now? dream on
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