AEK vs. Milan, Tuesday 21st November

Originally Posted by Bram

Lol, here in Belgium, Anderlecht is quite upset about this Milan-loss. If Milan had won, Anderlecht had good chances of proceeding to the 1/8th finals, now they even will have difficulties to go to Uefacup.
I see Milan losing in the last game also, they are already qualified as group leader.

Milan SHOULD lose the final game of the group stage. I hope Ancelotti fields a side of squad and primavera players. We need to focus on the league now, and this is an excellent opportunity to give the first team players some rest.

Originally Posted by devoted_dm

Milan SHOULD lose the final game of the group stage. I hope Ancelotti fields a side of squad and primavera players. We need to focus on the league now, and this is an excellent opportunity to give the first team players some rest.

That is not the Milan I grew up with, we used to trash teams for fun, we used to trash Barcelona 4-0 in the CL final, sometimes I think we're caught up in a nightmare and when i wake up I'll open the paper and see us at first place in the standings, with Inter 20 points behind... the way it should be. Dissapointment is not a strong enough word, I feel pain right now, physical pain in my stomach.

Originally Posted by omer

What do you mean the same players?? Two yrs ago the main strikers were Shevchenko, Crespo, Tommason. Now the strikers are Gilardino, Oliveira and an old Inzaghi. Well Sheva wanted to leave but they could have easily paid Chelsea the 8/10 mil to keep Crespo. Vogel was a good sub for Pirlo. They frekin sold him too.

Before in the defence there was Stam. Now theres Bonera in his place. Dida's sub used to be Abbiati. Now his sub his Kalac and Dida is older. No proper replacement for Rui Costa. Kaka has to frekin play every game.

Fukin Berlusconi. With the transfer campaign they did, it was obvious it would be difficult to do anything special. Not even frekin Inter has ever done so crap.

Barca was the top team last year. Still they went and got Zambrotta, Thuram and Gudjonsen.

By the way, Crespo is still so much better than Gilardino. And Inter got him for free.

Now if they buy Huntelaar, Daniel Alves, Torres, Diego, Barzagli, Vicente then something good could happen.

I mean, first of all, not 2 years ago time...but simply one year ago. Then, I actually meant those same players that are still in Milan, such as Dida, Cafu, Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka etc....

Originally Posted by Pireloke

That is not the Milan I grew up with, we used to trash teams for fun, we used to trash Barcelona 4-0 in the CL final, sometimes I think we're caught up in a nightmare and when i wake up I'll open the paper and see us at first place in the standings, with Inter 20 points behind... the way it should be. Dissapointment is not a strong enough word, I feel pain right now, physical pain in my stomach.

If you remember, like 4 / 5 years ago when Milan won the champion League, Milan lost both games in the group stage after winning the first 4 games (i.e., 12 points).

Bayern was pissed with it; because Milan won Bayern twice, having 12 points, and then lost to Deportivo and another freakout team. So I expect Milan to lose the last one as well, with most of the players (kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf etc) resting.

Originally Posted by Jeff

If you remember, like 4 / 5 years ago when Milan won the champion League, Milan lost both games in the group stage after winning the first 4 games (i.e., 12 points).

Bayern was pissed with it; because Milan won Bayern twice, having 12 points, and then lost to Deportivo and another freakout team. So I expect Milan to lose the last one as well, with most of the players (kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf etc) resting.

yea, thats exactly why we lost todai. I cud tell the players out there were jus having fun and wanting to lose. plz, dun compare this team to that one. that team had luck and was on the incline, the beginning of the wonder boys. This team has no luck, no plan, and is pretty much the end of the "wonder boys". I hope we see a revolution this year, and also a new coach. ancelotti wuz fine, we won trophies. now let go, and form a new team. you can tell how well things are going by the fact that our startin cbs are costacurta and maldini. the sad part is that even our most loyal players are quitting; cafu wants out as soon as january, maldini wants to quit at the end of the season, sheva alredy left, and kaka has a big decision to make concerning real madrid. Yup, looks like a team of winners to me.

Originally Posted by martin

cafu wants out as soon as january, maldini wants to quit at the end of the season, sheva alredy left, and kaka has a big decision to make concerning real madrid. Yup, looks like a team of winners to me.

yup, that doesn't sound like a team of winners, but you has depicted the situation worse than it is.

Maldini can quit anymore; he is supposed to retire since 33.
Sheva? you still talk about him?
Cafu: his family, and I trust him on that, not like someone (huh?).
Kaka`: IF kaka` leaves Real because Milan is in trouble, then he is not that great of a champion. Champion prevails only in the midst of hardship.

This is the perfect time to test who is loyal and who is not to Milan. This is the crucible.

Originally Posted by Jeff

yup, that doesn't sound like a team of winners, but you has depicted the situation worse than it is.

Maldini can quit anymore; he is supposed to retire since 33.
Sheva? you still talk about him?
Cafu: his family, and I trust him on that, not like someone (huh?).
Kaka`: IF kaka` leaves Real because Milan is in trouble, then he is not that great of a champion. Champion prevails only in the midst of hardship.

This is the perfect time to test who is loyal and who is not to Milan. This is the crucible.

the situation is bad, compare each of our players performance these last two years to that of 2003, 2004 2005. they are all playing worse except for kaka. you are right, if kaka moves to real, this will say a lot about him and this means he wont be the great guy we thought he was/is. however, think of the blow that wud give to milan? he is clearly our future, if we lose him then we have lil to build around. also, if we were winning and the morale was good, do u think cafu and maldini wud look for a way out? i remember at the beggining of the season both players saying they cud go on for 2 more years. im not blaming them, simply using them to describe milan's situation. i am also tired of talking about sheva but look at the huge hole in our offence. and frankly i am sick and tired of having patience with gila. we all noe he has potential and that he is a good striker, but wen one has a chance, they have to run with it n impress. gila has only dissappointed us and our high expectations despite his 19 goals racked up last yr. the time for a change is nearing, it will all start by replacing carlo with rijkard.

Originally Posted by martin

the time for a change is nearing, it will all start by replacing carlo with rijkard.

I sincerely hope that i can share your optimism.

Originally Posted by martin

gila has only dissappointed us and our high expectations despite his 19 goals racked up last yr. the time for a change is nearing, it will all start by replacing carlo with rijkard.

Inzaghi disappointed me the most, to be honest. I don't know if you have watched the game, but he got all the chances he had today and scored none of them. Blaming Gila is as guilty as me blaming Inzaghi or Oliveraa. Don't you see?

Eveyrone gotta take the blame, and let's pray that our striekrs start scoring.

Originally Posted by kef

we are not playing that bad, but we aren't dangerous also

That means we are playing like sh*t.

we need revolution next season as simple as that, start with new coach and sell half the team.

I couldn't believe when i saw Bonera on the Left and Billy. wtf?

against Messina, WIN. nothing else.

Nesta, Favalli, Kaladze were already injured. Cafu was also out due to a minor injury, while Simic injured himself right before the game. Janku had and is still having a minor injury but had to play because Billy got injured during the game.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Kaka`: IF kaka` leaves Real because Milan is in trouble, then he is not that great of a champion. Champion prevails only in the midst of hardship.

This is the perfect time to test who is loyal and who is not to Milan. This is the crucible.

I agree with the above.
If he leaves, something I don't believe will happen, at least not in the next 4 years, we would be losing a great player but not a great champion.
Now is indeed the time to see who's loyal to Milan and who's in it for some cash and personal glory ... one more reason why I would have given the Golden Ball to Buffon.

Brocci is!

In spite of being in a ditch he released these statements.

Brocchi hits out at Inter

Milan midfielder Cristian Brocchi has revealed that his Inter stint was a nightmare. “It was the worst year of my career,” he declared.

The 30-year-old played for the Nerazzurri in 2000-01 before joining city rivals Milan, but he hardly has pleasant memories of his time with the Via Durini outfit.

"At Inter I spent the worst year of my career. I got injured and then, when I recovered, I was sold,” said Brocchi in an interview to the Italian weekly magazine Chi.

“The rush of always wanting to change is the defect of those who have too much money,” he added.

“By acting this way, Inter never managed to build a solid base of players who could represent a reference for the others.”

Brocchi, who spent last season on loan at Fiorentina, also denied reports that there is increasing tension within the Rossoneri camp.

“The squad is very united, there’s great humbleness and respect amongst us. You can be sure that here you will never see dramas like those that took place at Inter,” he continued.

“Considering that after the Calciopoli scandal Juventus were relegated to Serie B and strong opponents like Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina were penalised, if Inter don’t win this year, then they will never win.

“They even took advantage of Juve’s difficult moment to purchase Patrick Vieira and Zlatan Ibrahimovic who otherwise would never have been bought so easily,” concluded Brocchi.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/nov22f.html