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I never said that we should bench kaka either!Kaka is playing much better than pirlo!He is far better than Pirlo![/quote]


hey man I think that what you do is wrong (my opinion)
can't compare Pirlo whit Kaka. they are two different profiles
can compare RINO with Brocchi, I agree,
chelsea want Pirlo, Barcelona want Pirlo, Arsenal want Pirlo, Real want Pirlo..... every team need a player like Pirlo, only Inter was that stupid to sel Pirlo to is city rival, so we can be more powerfull, and they made it. Remember what Gattuso say about Pirlo: "When I see Pirlo handle the ball I ask my self if i'm a footballer" So we must don't make a mistake like a stupid interista.

Nefremo's post says a lot of what I planned to already, so I won't repeat it. However, to all those doubting Pirlo and his contribution, bear in mind that for the past 5 seasons, he's been the only player in the side we couldn't replace. To see his contribution, see what's happened over these seasons when he hasn't played, I think that really shows best how important he is.

Personally, when I think of who our most important players are, Pirlo is usually the first to come to mind, even ahead of others like Maldini, Rino and Kaka.

As for why Pirlo hasn't been performing at his highest level, I think we need to see how many actual breaks he's been given in the past 3 years or so, and more than ever, look at the break he had this summer (2 weeks?). Physically that is insanely demanding of him so it's only natural he will be tired rather than in top shape. I'm hoping that next summer he finally get's to rest. If he is called up to play next summer, then I actually hope he decides to feign injury and get a well earned break for once.

However, that's not the only reason why his form has been poor. Look at how the team have been playing and then assess that to Pirlo's role. He creates, his game is based around his vision and passing and he plays as a fulcrum in the side. To be able to do this, he needs those around him to actually make runs, make space and give him options with passing, which they haven't been doing. It's no coincidence that since Gourcuff has started playing, with his work rate and movement, that Pirlo's performances have been excellent.

Originally Posted by Jeff

That's the point. Pirlo is so good that even FIFA2k7 or Winning Eleven cannot capture his move! (And I rate WE very highly).

I agree, though I think the latest Pro Evolution Soccer has done a pretty good job.

Personally, when I think of who our most important players are, Pirlo is usually the first to come to mind, even ahead of others like Maldini, Rino and Kaka.

As for why Pirlo hasn't been performing at his highest level, I think we need to see how many actual breaks he's been given in the past 3 years or so, and more than ever, look at the break he had this summer (2 weeks?). Physically that is insanely demanding of him so it's only natural he will be tired rather than in top shape. I'm hoping that next summer he finally get's to rest. If he is called up to play next summer, then I actually hope he decides to feign injury and get a well earned break for once.

However, that's not the only reason why his form has been poor. Look at how the team have been playing and then assess that to Pirlo's role. He creates, his game is based around his vision and passing and he plays as a fulcrum in the side. To be able to do this, he needs those around him to actually make runs, make space and give him options with passing, which they haven't been doing. It's no coincidence that since Gourcuff has started playing, with his work rate and movement, that Pirlo's performances have been excellent.




I agree, though I think the latest Pro Evolution Soccer has done a pretty good job.[/quote]



damn, you right-right

Originally Posted by Horia CRINA

hey man I think that what you do is wrong (my opinion)
can't compare Pirlo whit Kaka. they are two different profiles
can compare RINO with Brocchi, I agree,
chelsea want Pirlo, Barcelona want Pirlo, Arsenal want Pirlo, Real want Pirlo..... every team need a player like Pirlo, only Inter was that stupid to sel Pirlo to is city rival, so we can be more powerfull, and they made it. Remember what Gattuso say about Pirlo: "When I see Pirlo handle the ball I ask my self if i'm a footballer" So we must don't make a mistake like a stupid interista.

I SAID HE PLAYS RARELY GOOD FOOTBALL!!!
IF YOU LIKE THAT? THATS YOUR PROBLEM!!!

Great posts nefremo and Dev. Totally agree with everything you guys said.

Pirlo has had alot of rest this season he has just started 2 CL games and been rested for a few serie a games plus he has just played for Italy twice since the world cup so u cant say Carlo is trying and he knows his form has been very poor for us, if anyone should need a rest it would be Kaka but it does not look that way as he plays man of the match every game for Milan this season i can not remember the last time Pirlo has been the best Milan player in a match he seems to try alot more for italy. I would welcome Deco, Xavi and Essien in open arms over Pirlo but thats not going to happen so i will have to live with a slug in our midfield who plays on average 2 good passes a game and lets players just skip by him every game

So he was rested a couple of games and you think that makes up for two full years non-stop football, given that he is the most played player at Milan and played the whole WC as a starter from day one.
The guy has been begging for a rest and not only now but for a very long time. His biggest problem is that he indispensable for Milan and we lack a real replacement for him ... come on, mad, two games of rest can't relieve the mental and physical tiredness of a whole season, let alone two.

Ok Milan_Mad...go pay Barca the buy out clause for Deco or Xavi, and find the 20+M pounds Chelski will demand for Essien...since you think they are better....

What gets me though, is your claim that Pirlo only makes 2 passes a game, which either means:

a) You dont watch Milan play often, or
b) You dont play/understand the professional game (quite different from Sunday park scrimmage) or
c) You just dont like Pirlo, or
d) You have come to expect perfection from Pirlo every game, despite the fact that he is human, and remains for most, one of our better players...or
f) You think he should only play for the World Cup winning team, whereafter FIFA voted him as one of the 3 best players at the Mundial, yet is rubbish for Milan.

It could be any one of those, or a combination of several or all...you are entitled to express your opinion, but dont expect to have everyone agree with you.

Worse, I think your opinion is...well...how should I put this without offending you...dunno..lets just say I disagree 1,000,000% with you re Pirlo.

However, have a nice day!

OH! Sorry! He makes players skip past him? Pirlo made at least 15 tackles vs Brescia, almost every tackle he made he won the ball...he may not have this sort of stats every game, but for a creative midfielder, I think he does an exemplery job..and doesnt give up cheap fouls in dangerous areas....dude...are you mixing him up with someone else?

I accept that you disagree, i was just expressing my opinion on Pirlos form for not just this season last season as well you would think milan would have money but thats just does not seem to be the case with bringing in Favalli and Bonera for example so i will just have to dream about Essien and Deco at Milan

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Thanks you really got me!!!
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I SAY TO ALL OF YOU!PIRLO MIGHT BE THE BEST FOR HIS ROLE, BUT HE PLAYS RARELY GOOD!
If you are happy about that then a have nothing to say!
I feel absolutely correct to bench him!
Everyone answered to me that pirlo is the best for his role,he passes great,he make defence(he dont make),he
crosses great.............yes he can do it all i didn't say that he can't,i said he do it very rarely!
I cant wait,pray or guess when pirlo will play good football!
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I never said that we should bench kaka either!Kaka is playing much better than pirlo!He is far better than Pirlo!

I disagree with you...Pirlo is playing well all the time. You probably mean that he doesnt play great all the time (or at least recently)? He is a very important player for us...I can see his contribution in every game. What upsets me a little bit is that he doesnt score from free kicks for a while now..But I m sure some time will pass and he ll start doing it as brilliant as he used to.
Anyways, Pirlo is not going to be benched in the near future and we all know it, because bringing in a new player for Pirlo's position is a waste of money - as we have Pirlo who plays well, we need to bring new defenders and attackers - that is for sure. So that is what we all should care about now. As for Pirlo he ll keep his position for now.

Originally Posted by Milan_Mad

I accept that you disagree, i was just expressing my opinion on Pirlos form for not just this season last season as well you would think milan would have money but thats just does not seem to be the case with bringing in Favalli and Bonera for example so i will just have to dream about Essien and Deco at Milan

Why would be want to buy Deco? He is going to be 30 this summer. And at the moment it would be a waste of money..we have real troubles to fix...Pirlo is not troubled. So there is really no point to buy someone on the place of Pirlo..even someone really good and expensive - because EVEN IF that person settles in well - he is not going to play better than Pirlo. So what is the whole point of spending money on it now? We are not Real Madrin...and not Chelsea...If we have a good player, why would we want to waste money on someone of the same calibre?

Originally Posted by Egoistka

Why would be want to buy Deco? He is going to be 30 this summer. And at the moment it would be a waste of money..we have real troubles to fix...Pirlo is not troubled. So there is really no point to buy someone on the place of Pirlo..even someone really good and expensive - because EVEN IF that person settles in well - he is not going to play better than Pirlo. So what is the whole point of spending money on it now? We are not Real Madrin...and not Chelsea...If we have a good player, why would we want to waste money on someone of the same calibre?

Deco plays like he could go on till 38 years old same with Pirlo really age does not matter to much how you could call it a waste of money i dont know 19 million on Gila 28 Mil on R. Costa 12 Mil on R.O i think it would turn out to be better value for money then these 3 like a said its just a dream

Originally Posted by Egoistka

I disagree with you...Pirlo is playing well all the time. You probably mean that he doesnt play great all the time (or at least recently)? He is a very important player for us...I can see his contribution in every game. What upsets me a little bit is that he doesnt score from free kicks for a while now..But I m sure some time will pass and he ll start doing it as brilliant as he used to.
Anyways, Pirlo is not going to be benched in the near future and we all know it, because bringing in a new player for Pirlo's position is a waste of money - as we have Pirlo who plays well, we need to bring new defenders and attackers - that is for sure. So that is what we all should care about now. As for Pirlo he ll keep his position for now.

My take on Pirlo is that he performs better for the Italian national team than for Milan, imho that's because in the Azurri he plays in a more forward position on the field than he does with Milan.

He functions better just behind the attackers, however here in Milan he has Kaka in front of him so of course he won't get as far forward on the field as he likes to in Ancelloti's system.

Although he is one of my favorite players he underperforms in Milan for two reasons : the first one I wrote above and the second one is that he plays too much, Ancelloti fields him in every match, even in Coppa Italia matches, also since the man became father again recently (baby crying at night) and he has a nice wife (other cries at night) I think our friend Andrea is really really tired and needs some rest

Originally Posted by Milan_Mad

Deco plays like he could go on till 38 years old same with Pirlo really age does not matter to much how you could call it a waste of money i dont know 19 million on Gila 28 Mil on R. Costa 12 Mil on R.O i think it would turn out to be better value for money then these 3 like a said its just a dream

I did not say that Gila worthes money spent on him...but at the moment we really dont need to buy anyone for Pirlo's position, because one of the two players for the same position would be benched. What is the point then to spend a hell of a money for a bench player?

Originally Posted by Pireloke

My take on Pirlo is that he performs better for the Italian national team than for Milan, imho that's because in the Azurri he plays in a more forward position on the field than he does with Milan.

He functions better just behind the attackers, however here in Milan he has Kaka in front of him so of course he won't get as far forward on the field as he likes to in Ancelloti's system.

Although he is one of my favorite players he underperforms in Milan for two reasons : the first one I wrote above and the second one is that he plays too much, Ancelloti fields him in every match, even in Coppa Italia matches, also since the man became father again recently (baby crying at night) and he has a nice wife (other cries at night) I think our friend Andrea is really really tired and needs some rest

Yes, you are right..he needs some rest. But we cant play without him....so I guess he ll get his rest at summer time. Although I think that playing him in Coppa is not the best idea.

Some forums have been reporting that Milan have secured the services of a talented central midfielder from Rimini called Barusso for around 4.5m euro. Im not sure if he has the italian nationality but he looks African, so I dont know how will the transfer go through.

Anyone has any news on this? maybe Maltese Charlie?