Tony29.

Tony29. · 30-01-2007, 12:22

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Originally Posted by marcovb

And it appears that at the end of the season if Milan will end on 4th place Milan will pay another 5mil to real

Looooooooool
You're kidding me, or that's really the deal ?
Looks like Galliani and co. are so scared of the possibility Real to get Kaka ( they must have a very good reason to be so scared ) that now they'll accept everything Real says, hoping it will stop Real from going after Kaka !

King tiger · 30-01-2007, 12:30

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And it appears that at the end of the season if Milan will end on 4th place Milan will pay another 5mil to real

Is that true?

Is it now certain that Oliveira will join RM?

marcovb · 30-01-2007, 12:34

I just saw Sport News on RAI DUE and thats what they said

peters · 30-01-2007, 12:35

oh jeeez what a scary news. Cmon, that cant be!
pleasepleaseplease...

marcovb · 30-01-2007, 12:35

It's 500 000

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadr.../ronaldo.shtml

Tony29. · 30-01-2007, 12:36

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Originally Posted by marcovb

I just saw Sport News on RAI DUE and thats what they said

Milan e Real hanno trovato l'accordo per 7,5 milioni di euro. Il club rossonero pagherà sette milioni al Real più 500 mila euro se si qualificherà per questa Champions League e per la prossima. Il brasilano è arrivato al Bernabeu e alle 18 prenderà un areo per Milano. Al momento non sono trapelate notizie sul futuro di Oliveira

You misunderstood. It's 500 000 !

Tony29. · 30-01-2007, 12:37

So, the deal is 7 M now, and extra 500 000 only if Milan qualifies for this and next year's Champions league !

Warro Bantan · 30-01-2007, 12:41

And the "At the moment news on the future of Oliveira is not trapelate"..is what the last line of that article translates as on babelfish...so, just what is "trapelate"?

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Originally Posted by Tony29.

Milan e Real hanno trovato l'accordo per 7,5 milioni di euro. Il club rossonero pagherà sette milioni al Real più 500 mila euro se si qualificherà per questa Champions League e per la prossima. Il brasilano è arrivato al Bernabeu e alle 18 prenderà un areo per Milano. Al momento non sono trapelate notizie sul futuro di Oliveira

Tony29. · 30-01-2007, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

And the "At the moment news on the future of Oliveira is not trapelate"..is what the last line of that article translates as on babelfish...so, just what is "trapelate"?

There are no news available for Oliveira's future - that's the translation !
According to spanish "Marca" Oliveira on loan to Real, with an option to buy him at the end of the season is done deal. But they didn't give me an impression of being reliable source. So we have to wait until it's official.

rossoneri · 30-01-2007, 12:52

all i know is that ronnie is milanista and oli goes on loan at RM.

Warro Bantan · 30-01-2007, 12:55

The fact that he isnt on the team sheet for tomorrows game with Roma...implies that he is either:

a) injured
b) about to go on loan
c) about to be sold.

My choice would be:

d) None of the above...

but it isnt my choice to make, now is it?

zlatanov · 30-01-2007, 12:55

it hink that everybody is just coming out with their own guess about this deal right now. This thing about Milan paying money to Real if we get CL spot was something that Ernesto Bronzetti suggested as a possibel solution BEFORE Milan and Real had reahced an agreement (the one about 7.5 mil).

What Bronzetti said was that there were many possible solutions for this deal to materialize and in the end one or another will be found, whatever it turns out to be. Milan paying real money in case of qualifying for CL was only one such solution Bronzetti mentioned. Another one involved a UEFA regulation regarding transfers, which basically says that, for any transfer of a player, the selling club must give 0.5% of the transfer fee to each of the clubs that player has played for between the ages of 13 and 23, I think ...

in Ronaldos case this involves some Brazilian club, then Cruzeiro, PSV, Barca, and Inter. So, instead of Real paying these "fees", Bronzetti suggested that it would be possible that Milan would agree to take care of those just to facilitate the transfer ... but again, those were just some of the MANY possible solutions Bronzetti talked about BEFORE the actual agreement had been reached.

Yesterday, Real was asking for 8 or so mil, Milan was offering 7 or so mil with the dif between demand and offer being around 1 mil - this is what Galliani himself siad. Today, the official agreement reported by most sources is 7.5mil which is exactly what one would expect it to be.

There is a chance that, if Milan gets a CL spot for next year, Milan has agreed to pay those fees to Ronaldos previous clubs, instead of Real doing so, and this may very well be what RaiDue was reporting as a possibility of an "extra" payment in case of Milan qualifying for CL ... but to speak of another 4 mil given that Real's initial demand was 8 mil and we are paying them 7.5 is way off, I think.

Guys you are a bit too quick to just bash the management without giving much thought to whether the things that you hear around actually make any sense at all ... if you are so keen to go all crazy on Galliani and call him names, at least give it some time till the details are official.

EDIT: there you go - the confusion seems to be solved as I was typing this ... see, it's always a good idea to give it some time and know the details before we open a big bottle of WHINE

Warro Bantan · 30-01-2007, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Tony29.

There are no news available for Oliveira's future - that's the translation !
According to spanish "Marca" Oliveira on loan to Real, with an option to buy him at the end of the season is done deal. But they didn't give me an impression of being reliable source. So we have to wait until it's official.

Thanks Tony..and no news is good news...so lets see what transpiers!

zlatanov · 30-01-2007, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Tony29.

So, the deal is 7 M now, and extra 500 000 only if Milan qualifies for this and next year's Champions league !

not sure whether you got this from another source but on gazzetta it says that 7.5 mil would paid in two installaments and an extra 500,000 would be paid if Milan qialifies for CL, including going through the preliminary round ... "In that case I would be more than happy to pay 8 mil for him" is what Galliani says there.

Tony29. · 30-01-2007, 13:16

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Originally Posted by zlatanov

not sure whether you got this from another source but on gazzetta it says that 7.5 mil would paid in two installaments and an extra 500,000 would be paid if Milan qialifies for CL, including going through the preliminary round ... "In that case I would be more than happy to pay 8 mil for him" is what Galliani says there.

I got it from Calciomercato :

Milan e Real hanno trovato l'accordo per 7,5 milioni di euro. Il club rossonero pagherà sette (7) milioni al Real più 500 mila euro se si qualificherà per questa Champions League e per la prossima. Il brasilano è arrivato al Bernabeu e alle 18 prenderà un areo per Milano. Al momento non sono trapelate notizie sul futuro di Oliveira

30-01-2007, 12:37	#1342
Tony29. Registered User Join Date: 09 2006 Location: South Slavia	So, the deal is 7 M now, and extra 500 000 only if Milan qualifies for this and next year's Champions league ! __________________ People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have

30-01-2007, 12:55	#1346
Warro Bantan Moderator Join Date: 08 1999 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Fave Players: Rui Costa, Pirlo, Pato	The fact that he isnt on the team sheet for tomorrows game with Roma...implies that he is either: a) injured b) about to go on loan c) about to be sold. My choice would be: d) None of the above... but it isnt my choice to make, now is it? __________________ I Love Milan.

30-01-2007, 12:55	#1347
zlatanov Moderator Join Date: 07 2003 Location: Nowhere near San Siro :( Fave Players: Zinedine Zidane, Genarro Gattuso, Alessandro Nesta	it hink that everybody is just coming out with their own guess about this deal right now. This thing about Milan paying money to Real if we get CL spot was something that Ernesto Bronzetti suggested as a possibel solution BEFORE Milan and Real had reahced an agreement (the one about 7.5 mil). What Bronzetti said was that there were many possible solutions for this deal to materialize and in the end one or another will be found, whatever it turns out to be. Milan paying real money in case of qualifying for CL was only one such solution Bronzetti mentioned. Another one involved a UEFA regulation regarding transfers, which basically says that, for any transfer of a player, the selling club must give 0.5% of the transfer fee to each of the clubs that player has played for between the ages of 13 and 23, I think ... in Ronaldos case this involves some Brazilian club, then Cruzeiro, PSV, Barca, and Inter. So, instead of Real paying these "fees", Bronzetti suggested that it would be possible that Milan would agree to take care of those just to facilitate the transfer ... but again, those were just some of the MANY possible solutions Bronzetti talked about BEFORE the actual agreement had been reached. Yesterday, Real was asking for 8 or so mil, Milan was offering 7 or so mil with the dif between demand and offer being around 1 mil - this is what Galliani himself siad. Today, the official agreement reported by most sources is 7.5mil which is exactly what one would expect it to be. There is a chance that, if Milan gets a CL spot for next year, Milan has agreed to pay those fees to Ronaldos previous clubs, instead of Real doing so, and this may very well be what RaiDue was reporting as a possibility of an "extra" payment in case of Milan qualifying for CL ... but to speak of another 4 mil given that Real's initial demand was 8 mil and we are paying them 7.5 is way off, I think. Guys you are a bit too quick to just bash the management without giving much thought to whether the things that you hear around actually make any sense at all ... if you are so keen to go all crazy on Galliani and call him names, at least give it some time till the details are official. EDIT: there you go - the confusion seems to be solved as I was typing this ... see, it's always a good idea to give it some time and know the details before we open a big bottle of WHINE __________________ "Everyone creates his own luck" - Carlo Ancelotti Last edited by zlatanov; 30-01-2007 at 13:09.

30-01-2007, 12:34	#1338
marcovb Registered User Join Date: 07 2006 Fave Players: Maldini,Van Basten,Kaka	I just saw Sport News on RAI DUE and thats what they said

30-01-2007, 12:35	#1339
peters Registered User Join Date: 11 2004 Location: Slovenia	oh jeeez what a scary news. Cmon, that cant be! pleasepleaseplease...

30-01-2007, 12:35	#1340
marcovb Registered User Join Date: 07 2006 Fave Players: Maldini,Van Basten,Kaka	It's 500 000 http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadr.../ronaldo.shtml

30-01-2007, 12:52	#1345
rossoneri Registered User Join Date: 10 2006 Location: Prishtinë Fave Players: Ricardo Izecson Dos Santos Leite KAKA'	all i know is that ronnie is milanista and oli goes on loan at RM.

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