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Yes, Zlat, i know all this

The guy above said that no matter how strong Juve is they won't finish 4th. I asked him why does he thinks so, why if Juve's very strong they won't be 4th?
Chances are Juve to be even weaker than Lazio next year and not get the 4th place, not even the 5th.
As for competing with Inter and Milan - it's utopia, at least for the next 2-3 years, even if Juve keeps Trez, Buffon and the other stars and even if Juve buys 3 more very good players ! Inter and Milan will be much stronger in any case.

Edit : Hey Zlatanov. In some 5-10 minutes i'll send you a PM with a question for you.
Please don't leave now. I need your help

it depents on serginho,if milan management still believes in serginho,if they believe that he can rediscovered his old form at LB forget Zambrotta!!!!!

Marzoratti,i forgot him yep,he could replace simicor billy next year,it would be great

Favalli?he can stay or he can leave as well,everything is unsure.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

The reason I am saying this is that there are 4 players who have been dragging Juve forward this season - Buffon, DP, Trez, and Nedved.

Tony Zlat more or less answered part of your quote, you have been pretty comfortable in Seria B this season however Seria A is a whole new change I dont think it will be the same as this season, you must remember alot of your team has left. You will need few years to get back to the stage of competing in the CL, Buffon will most certainly leave, as so will DT. The other two as Zlat said are getting old and I dont think can carry Juve like they have done previously. I dont think you will be ablt to compete with the likes of the top four, including Lazio. I think even Lazio will be too strong for Juve this season unless you can pull out some sort of miracle in the summer and improve your team drastically.

Lets think about it now, if Buffon was to leave who would you sell him then too? Roma? Oh please. Juve want alot of money and I dont think Buffon wants to leave Italy, the money your after no team outside Italy will be willing to pay. If he was to leave then I think he will be joining the San Siro which side Im not 100% certain.

I for one am not into the "Ronaldinho" thing. Everybody and his grandmother's dog knows about his brilliance, but that doesn't mean we need him. I'd like us to spend more time fielding the young talents on our bench (Gourcuff, Grimi, primavera stand-outs) rather than buy a superstar. Just my humble opinion.

I'm not sure what Serginho's future with the team is. Cafu's signed an extension and he's older than he is. Will we know before the summer?

If Franck Ribery were to join Milan...I would gladly help give him a makeover. There is nothing a little Milan Lab magic can't work on the wee one. Yes, I'm a sucker for French players.

If Lazio makes it to CL, then remember my words : Lazio will hardly get UEFA spot next year.
If Juve won't make a strong team then Fiorentina will be the most serious candidate for the last CL place next year.

Lazio, in all honesty, took the 3rd ( 4th) place ( and they would have been 5th if there were no pts penalties) against all odds. They are solid team with good coach but they are still far behind the top trio+Fiorentina.
And this year they weren't playing in Europe. For a team like Lazio playing in serie A and Champions League is way too much.
The same thing happened with Udinese 1 year ago. Do you guys remember how they hardly escaped relegation last year ?
Even if Lazio buys few more players, financially ( even with CL participation money) they can't allow buying great players, not even very good players. They can buy only average.

Don't fear Lazio next year.

As for who will get the 4th place next year.....always count on Juve. Fiorentina invested a lot in last years. They deserved to play CL and with the points they got both last and this year they should have been in CL.
With Calciopoli Fiorentina , like Juve, lost a lot of money.
All the money invested in the team never came back because they missed on CL. Selling Luca Toni is logical outcome of what happened in last 2 years. Not only they will sell Toni but they won't replace him and they will also lose few more starting XI players ( Dainelli is sure to leave and few more will follow).

Juve only benefits from Viola's problems and from Lazio's "appearance" in Champions League.
Now, Juve does have a lot of money to spend on the transfer market. If Buffon leaves( as much good Buffon is, he's still a goalkeeper. Important position, but certanly not as important as CD, CM or SC positions) and if Trez also leaves then Juve will have over 100m just to spend on transfers.
Not being in CL is a handicap. Juve has the money but can't buy the best out there. Still, very good players will be bought and these players will imo be enough to compete and beat the rivals for 4th place.
And another thing at the end - Never underestimate the motivation Juve players will have. Do you think there will be a more motivated team in Italy next year ?
Juve won't play in Europe and can concentrate only on serie A.

These are the reasons why you must count on Juve to win the 4th place next year !

Originally Posted by Tony29.

These are the reasons why you must count on Juve to win the 4th place next year !

Some good points made tony, I guess we will just have to wasit and see. However being linked with mickey mouse players who are worth 5 mill wont bring miracles.

Originally Posted by ForeverMilan

drucull mate,im forevermilan/kaka of goal.com,remember me?i think there is misunderstanding between you and me,someone pointed out that rossoneri-11 said that milan needed to sign all big players,after that i created a team which consists of my dream transfers XL.thats all.

dude I get that but can none of our players make your list?? not even subs??

dream transfers - meaning players that are NOT in Milan already
that above was not his favourate team but rather a formation of players he would like to see come to milan and join the other star players already here.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

dream transfers - meaning players that are NOT in Milan already
that above was not his favourate team but rather a formation of players he would like to see come to milan and join the other star players already here.

OIC MY bad sorry
(that's a whole lot of dreaming though )

we really need eto'o,maybe we dont need ribery that much if we sign eto'o alone

Marzoratti
Alex maybe
Lucko or barusso maybe
Eto'o is a must,if we dont manage to sign him and however,i already stated i'd would be very happy if we sign only suazzo
i dont see us signing a back up for kaka since we have to play some youngsters next year,Marzoratti and Di Gennaro.

Regarding Gourcuff,i really dont want him leave milan,since it would better for him to complete his progress by training and learning something from kaka and seedorf,yet seems Toro wants to loan him and brocchi,he will get playing time at there for always.

Regarding Galliani,he could do some stupid movings,like sending gourcuff to toro then signing ze Roberto,or signing tuncay sanli who is free agent to replace oliveira or borriello.

Originally Posted by ForeverMilan

drucull mate,im forevermilan/kaka of goal.com,remember me?i think there is misunderstanding between you and me,someone pointed out that rossoneri-11 said that milan needed to sign all big players,after that i created a team which consists of my dream transfers XL.thats all.

You are talking about rossoneri-11 not for me? I'm right?

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

You are talking about rossoneri-11 not for me? I'm right?

did you say that we need all big players?if you do,i talked about you or if you dont i dont talk about you

Originally Posted by ForeverMilan

did you say that we need all big players?if you do,i talked about you or if you dont i dont talk about you

Look, my name is rosoneri_11 not rossoneri-11.
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So for wich one are you talking about?About him or for me?

yeah, it's about you ... people just like your list of transfer targets, that's all

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