Winter Mercato

Must be true if a Spanish paper says it.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=47835

Spanish paper Secondo Sport claims that Sheva to Milan is a done deal.

I don't think it says that ... they are basically repeating the same rumours that have been circulating around for a week now - Chelski would sell for 35 mil, Milan offers "only" 25 however ... and the spanish are throwing in a new twist, most probably to make their story more believable and not because it is necessarily true - Milan has a 3+1 year deal ready for Sheva, who has supposedly agreed to take a pay-cut from 8.5 to a little over 5 mil/year.
At the very end, they say that one more obstacle remains - the unwillingness of Milan players to see Sheva come back to milanello.

Nothing new really.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I don't think it says that ... they are basically repeating the same rumours that have been circulating around for a week now - Chelski would sell for 35 mil, Milan offers "only" 25 however ... and the spanish are throwing in a new twist, most probably to make their story more believable and not because it is necessarily true - Milan has a 3+1 year deal ready for Sheva, who has supposedly agreed to take a pay-cut from 8.5 to a little over 5 mil/year.
At the very end, they say that one more obstacle remains - the unwillingness of Milan players to see Sheva come back to milanello.

Nothing new really.

Yeah...I did read that in greater detail. However, Gazzetta headlined (even if the article had a slightly different tone) it as "fatta con il Milan", as if everything it was a mere formality http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercato/.

I really doubt a Spanish paper would have anything new to offer on this saga.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Arsenal didnt sell Henry because they think hes past it. They sold him because Arsene Wenger is one hell of a talent scout.

I seriously doubt that Wenger himself is the finding all those talents, I bet they have fulltime scouts that are working well with the club.

Originally Posted by mrki

Combination of Cassano and Pato could do well in Milan. Pato isnt ready to play all season long and he needs to work more on his game, while we can use Cassano in a good way, im sure of it.

These are names that don't fit the bill "superstar striker", I would be kind of disappointed if our hunt for Eto'o, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho, Henry, Adriano and Drogba resulted in buying Cassano. Pato is ok, but he's still a young kid that probably will need a lot of time to shine in Serie A.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Yeah...I did read that in greater detail. However, Gazzetta headlined (even if the article had a slightly different tone) it as "fatta con il Milan", as if everything it was a mere formality http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercato/.

I really doubt a Spanish paper would have anything new to offer on this saga.

I just read it and it really doesn't offer anything more conclusive on the matter from what we already knew when Silvio said that it's 80% done for Sheva to be back (i.e. Milan and Sheva had an agreement) and after that reports suggetsed that Milan would not offer more than 20-25 mil while CHelski doens't wanna go below 35.
Now this same story is reported by Sport, who I guess in an attaempt to make it sound more sensational, have decided to announce it as a done deal, although they themseleves say that the previous differences between offer and demand remain unchanged.

And that thing about Carlo being lured to agree to take SHeva back by Silvio and Galliani promising him Pato too, that is as stretchy of a twist as only a Spanish paper can come up with ... and what's even more curious is that the Spanish learned that first while the Italian media was completely unaware of it ...

Zlat nice reply to Dru, you basically said everything I was about to say.

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

I seriously doubt that Wenger himself is the finding all those talents, I bet they have fulltime scouts that are working well with the club.

You know what, if there is one thing I admire about Arsenal it has to be the scouting system. It is one of the finest in the world, there have been some bad and good buys but the way Wenger picks them is just special. This is the reason Galliani stated they want to invest more in to the youth and create a scouting system like Arsenals. I wouldnt say Arsenal has the best youth academy but rather the scouting system as there are teams with much better academies Barca, Ajax to mention a few. This is the reason the board have offered Wenger a mega deal to extend his contract, im waiting to see his reaction. If you look at the scouting system - majority of them are past Arsenal players so they are similar to Milan in the way when players leave they get offered roles in the club.

The thing that annoys me the most about the market is that with to start with there werent many players that were available, the little players that were available are decreasing - If I have to be suprised with a team this summer it has to be Bayern, with no CL they have more or less taken over the market with Barca. Man Utd have spent too much on Hargreaves, Nani & Anderson IMO, with these three the cost is touching 60 Mill and they are looking to get Tevez for about 20-25 Mill. These are teams who are just investing money like crazy and most of them are in debt - However we have Berlu & Galliani and im sure they have something up their sleeeves.

Looks like Alex will join Chelsea this summer, lets hope Carvalho body slams him.

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

Man Utd have spent too much on Hargreaves, Nani & Anderson IMO, with these three the cost is touching 60 Mill and they are looking to get Tevez for about 20-25 Mill.

The total cost is more than that, it's around £50 million for those 3, which makes it 74 million euros already. Add Tevez to that (should they get him) for at least £20 million and they'll surpass the 100 million euro mark easily enough.

I'm sure they're sill in alot of debt or at least the Glazers are as they borrowed alot of money to buy the club, the top clubs in England make far healthier profits than Italian clubs. I remember figures of around £40 million and over, though i can't be sure if that's profit or just income.

The point being that Milan made just £1.1 million profit last season, which means they obviously don't have the club finances to compete on such a level of spending. Considering all of this, i find it amazing that we're willing to spend 20-25 million to bring Shevchenko back, what a waste!

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

The total cost is more than that, it's around £50 million for those 3, which makes it 74 million euros already. Add Tevez to that (should they get him) for at least £20 million and they'll surpass the 100 million euro mark easily enough.

I'm sure they're sill in alot of debt or at least the Glazers are as they borrowed alot of money to buy the club, the top clubs in England make far healthier profits than Italian clubs. I remember figures of around £40 million and over, though i can't be sure if that's profit or just income.

The point being that Milan made just £1.1 million profit last season, which means they obviously don't have the club finances to compete on such a level of spending. Considering all of this, i find it amazing that we're willing to spend 20-25 million to bring Shevchenko back, what a waste!

Actually top clubs in England are also operating at a loss. Buying clubs with leveraged debt is risky business.

Also, did you know that the Premiership debt in total exceeds 4 billion pounds!!

This is not a healthy financial position to be in. The best run league is the Bundesliga, though obviously not as exciting as the big 3.

The point being that Milan made just £1.1 million profit last season, which means they obviously don't have the club finances to compete on such a level of spending. Considering all of this, i find it amazing that we're willing to spend 20-25 million to bring Shevchenko back, what a waste!

dude we are amongst few big clubs that have profit.
no need to worry

According to : http://www.sport.es/ , "Sport", There are negotiation between Chelsea and Milan are making negotiations fro Shevchenko. Chelsea want to sell him about 35 m while we want to give 20 to 25. Mourinho seems to have said to Abramovic that is better for the team Sheva to go away. At the same time the Russian asks from the Portugal coach to take the whole responsibility for a future departure of Sheva. The player seems to be open to decrease his wages from 8 m that takes in Chelsea to 5 that Milan can offer. So want it or not, Sheva is the most probable solution for us in offense.

I want to ask you sthng after RO departure we will not have an extra non-Eu player position?

Well, we should have, shouldnt we?

You can only get one non-EU player from abroad. RO out won't change anything !

So the question is: Pato or mr. $hevchenko ?