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Wow, one day Galliani said we are signing someone big and everyone is happy and the next day he said no big signing and everyone is screaming at him and wanting him to resign. Gees people calm down. I think we all should know by now that Galliani is the best liar in the world and he loves pouring posion in our ears.

Another pt is that, as Hasan and Tony29 already stated, Milan probably does not need superstars at the moment, as the team are already full of superstars.
To all those disagree, think about it, the starting 11 for Milan at the CL finals match. Try to list 3 players that are better at that positions and then think about are those three players available or not? Quite frankly, most of them are not, so what can Milan do.
I find that a lot of us here are someone who say one thing and do the other. When Real is giving us offer for Kaka, we curse at Real and Calderon, but thats the same thing we are doing to teams like Chelsea, Barcelona, Palermo and others whenever Galliani mentions or hints at someone Milan is interest in, so by denying or lying about not signing a big stars, in a way, Galliani is showing his class. Which is something we all should respect, as we have a VP that is not a lowball player likes the othe clubs.
I can see that some of you might be mad at Galli and others lying but this is the transfer season, and most if not all of the infos cannot be taken seriously. Lets wait till the last day of the transfer season and see how Milan is at that time. If nothing happens and Galli and others come out and say that the squad is as good as it gets... then we can all call for Galli's head, but not now.

Lastly, I think Milan need squad players at the moment as their bench is really not as strong as it could. Thats why I think Galli did went to Barcelona and probably was discussing Motta and Zambrotta instead of Dinho and Eto. Hopefully Milan can sign 2 strikers, 1 Attk Mid, 1 def. Mid and 2 SB. Then the team will be more complete.

SO if Milan is to sign someone like Pato and Cavani upfront, with Emerson/Motta at midfield, all they need is an attk mid and 2 SB(Chellini and Zambrotta) and I would be happy.

I still don't understand why we've been so insistent on two players that don't seem too enthusiastic about joining us. I hope at some point we would have at least enquired about David Villa. Valencia would be easier to deal with than either Madrid or Barcelona. It's surely worth a little time spent over it.

GilAttack, if Galliani was your boss at work and you heard him say all these things, things that nearly everyday contradicted himself, wouldn't you start to lose a bit of confidence in him? Especially if you were promised something (in this analogy lets say it's a payrise) and then he goes back on his word, then he promises it again, then goes back on it, etc etc. It's not the best way to conduct yourself is it.

Ever since Dinho to Milan rumours started, I was against the transfer. The money spent on one superstar like that could be used much better to enhance squad depth. There are more pressing needs than a superstar attacker in Milan.

The problem with Galliani is not that he fails to bring Eto'o or Drogba or someone like that - he did not bring ANYONE to reinforce the squad (I am nout counting Ba as a reinforcement). I'd be more than happy with Chivu, Emerson and Pato. No need for superstars. But he's not capable to do that, obviously.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Thats why I think Galli did went to Barcelona and probably was discussing Motta and Zambrotta instead of Dinho and Eto

This is what really infuriates me. We seem happy enough to pay a huge amount for Ronaldino or Etoo but if we don't get them we settle for 3rd rate players like Motta! Where's the balance?

No one has made any bids for Motta because he's not very good and Barcelona are desperate to get rid of him. Yet we seem more than happy to take him and you have to ask why. He's not going to improve our squad at all and neither would Emerson.

I for one would rather see good quality players throughout the side than 1 megastar player up front, although i wouldn't complain if we did get a Barcelona star If they can see we need new midfielders and we don't get Ronaldinho or Etoo then why suddenly go all cheap and buy rubbish midfielders that no one wants?

Gonzalez, Elano, Miniero, Kallstrom, Rosicky, Gilberto Silva, Montilivo, Maresca, Deco (possibly), etc, etc ... All players who are a class above Motta & Emerson and could do more for our team. Like i said, there just doesn't seem to be a balance in our transfer targets, it's either the very best or the mediocre.

Why are we tied to Non-EU players when there are hundreds of EU players available capable of upgrading on Kalac, Fiori, Favalli, Janku, Brocchi, Gila??

It's because they have no intentions of trulying strengthening an ageing squad, which limits the competiveness of the first team. Remove Kaka, Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso for 4 months or so next season, and we be struggling in all competitions, and out of the running for anything. We need another DM, a proper leftback, another AM, and a CL striker, not to forget a decent sub keeper. Amelia, Zambro, Sneijder wouldn't be impossible to sign it they had any direction in the transfer market. We'd improve the squad immensely, and actually show our big targets that we want to evolve the team, instead of keeping bosman players who shouldn't be playing for our colours.

The thing that worries me most is if we don't get that big target since we apparently didn't bring in Ribery that Ancelotti wanted. We are on a point where no Ronaldinho would mean a failed market since all our focues seems to be directed there. I don't care that Galliani talks about other names, I am sure that Ronaldinho is the one aimed for.

Amelia, Zambro, Sneijder wouldn't be impossible to sign it they had any direction in the transfer market. We'd improve the squad immensely

Only Zambrotta would be a big improvement. Sneijder wouldn't be much of a improvment on Seedorf, just a good option. Amelia is overrated IMO and wouldn't feature much, i'd hardly call them "immense improvments". Well, I said thos things enough times already.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

This is what really infuriates me. We seem happy enough to pay a huge amount for Ronaldino or Etoo but if we don't get them we settle for 3rd rate players like Motta! Where's the balance?

Gonzalez, Elano, Miniero, Kallstrom, Rosicky, Gilberto Silva, Montilivo, Maresca, Deco (possibly), etc, etc ... All players who are a class above Motta & Emerson and could do more for our team. Like i said, there just doesn't seem to be a balance in our transfer targets, it's either the very best or the mediocre.

You don't spend €15M+ for a reserve player that will hardly feature. also the players you mentioned play many differeing roles and only half of them would be a alternative to Motto/Emerson. Not to forget that Emerson is better than most of them.

The balance is that a player like Ronaldinho/Eto'o vastly improve the team will buying a reserve/alternative midfielder is not making much of a change.

Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Seedorf, Gourcuff
Pirlo
Kaka

Indeed we need one more midfielder. €20M for a starter (instead of whom?) or €5M for a reserve? €12.5M for something inbetween? what you reckon?

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

My hope for seeing a star striker has disappeared and my hope for seeing either a good striker or a young talent is fading fast. As for my hopes of seeing another midfielder to go into the starting 11 and some new defenders, well they vanished months ago

... so is my hope to win a scudetto and beat inter twice with ease next year. And to see interesting/promising new players instead of some oldies-goldies (who should quit last year already). Atm i might be even happy i didnt buy annual ticket...? (that is one of the reason people bought it)

Dont forget Oddo was important to our UCL success and he arrived because we had some hole on that right flank. So if they can improve our squad, they will do so.

Yup, he was. But he should be bought in the summer and we might actually be in the top 3 at that time and fighting for it. Oddo arrived when our goal was 4th spot Last year we got all sorts of excuses that this year we dont (we won CL! we got cash and we got back the name - i hope) but still the transfer acting is looking alike.

Etoo number one and then dinho... I really understand madrid fans, club talking about kaka is such a nonsense, but they do it every day.

Originally Posted by kris

The thing that worries me most is if we don't get that big target since we apparently didn't bring in Ribery that Ancelotti wanted. We are on a point where no Ronaldinho would mean a failed market since all our focues seems to be directed there. I don't care that Galliani talks about other names, I am sure that Ronaldinho is the one aimed for.



Only Zambrotta would be a big improvement. Sneijder wouldn't be much of a improvment on Seedorf, just a good option. Amelia is overrated IMO and wouldn't feature much, i'd hardly call them "immense improvments". Well, I said thos things enough times already.

Both Sneijder & Amelia are better options than Gourcuff & Kalac, and that's what we need. What are our good options for Seedorf, Kaka, Dida, Nesta?

We don't have them due to incompetent management.

Originally Posted by kris

You don't spend €15M+ for a reserve player that will hardly feature. also the players you mentioned play many differeing roles and only half of them would be a alternative to Motto/Emerson. Not to forget that Emerson is better than most of them.

The balance is that a player like Ronaldinho/Eto'o vastly improve the team will buying a reserve/alternative midfielder is not making much of a change.

Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Seedorf, Gourcuff
Pirlo
Kaka

Indeed we need one more midfielder. €20M for a starter (instead of whom?) or €5M for a reserve? €12.5M for something inbetween? what you reckon?

The players i mentioned were all in view of taking Seedorf's starting position and Emerson is not better than most of those guys either.

Also who says they have to be reserve players who don't feature? The point is to get quality into the squad so you can rotate Pirlo, Gattuso & Kaka and let our 3 most important players rest alot more than they do now. Ambrosini is fine for the defensive role, Gourcuff is fine for a more attacking role, but we still need new faces.

In your own words would a 5 million rated player be of any use to us if one of the 3 i mentioned got injured? No, not really. You pay for medicority, you get mediocrity. We have enough of that already in the squad, we don't need more.

Everyone keeps saying that spending 90 million on R10 would be crazy and then spend 50 million on Eto'o is crazy too. Firstly I have never heard Galliani nor Berlusconi say we are offering X amount for R10 or Eto'o. These figures are derived from the media.

I am a believer that R10 will arrive cause not once has R10 come out and said that he wants to stay at Barca since his holiday. I feel that something is up.

I also agree that Milan should look to strengthen the squad with some back ups.

Wow...people have been VERY expressive .

A couple of points:

1) Players, managers, and football's suit-and-tie men, are groomed for public speaking. Very rarely do you see unusually frank statements a la Mourinho or that imbecile Blatter. So, when Galliani says things like he did yesterday, take it with a grain of salt.

2) Also, to say "we seem interested in Motta" is bit of a stretch. Papers have said we're interested in Motta, and those papers, as far as I can remember, never quoted a Milan official.

3) Berlusconi told Gazzetta that he has "100 million set aside for Dinho".

4) As far as Eto'o not wanting to come here...I wouldn't put too much stock in that. IF (IF) his club wants to sell him, I think he would suddenly have the desire. That's football unfortunately.

With all that said, I hope we get some reinforcements. If our management do get a big name then I really hope we also get some more modets ones, ones that can support our first XI.

Originally Posted by Tony75

Both Sneijder & Amelia are better options than Gourcuff & Kalac, and that's what we need. What are our good options for Seedorf, Kaka, Dida, Nesta?

We don't have them due to incompetent management.

They are slight improvments on our reserves and would together cost near €30M or at very least €20M. If we can spend that + wages for reserves, fine, but = luxury. I have nothing against luxury, but think prime needs should be adressed first.

Also, since you complained so much abuot no youth players, why throw away Gourcuff so fast?

Kaka and Pirlo are the only ones we don't have a option for, mostly due to the problem of actually finding someone that is a good option that would be content with the bench. Rui costa was a great option at a luxury wage for a reserve. Who is there now for Kaka? I'd suggest Moralez, but since he is non-eu that is not much. Other great option would have been Ribery, but seemingly we didn't take him for Ronaldinho. That would be me saying Ronaldinho would be huge, well he is HUGE.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

The players i mentioned were all in view of taking Seedorf's starting position and Emerson is not better than most of those guys either.

Emerson have been top 5 midfielder in Italy for years. Only Gonzalez, Deco and Gilberto have solid claims of being better. Most importantly, Ancelotti wanted Emerson.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Also who says they have to be reserve players who don't feature? The point is to get quality into the squad so you can rotate Pirlo, Gattuso & Kaka and let our 3 most important players rest alot more than they do now. Ambrosini is fine for the defensive role, Gourcuff is fine for a more attacking role, but we still need new faces.

I did say we need one more midfielder, in fact I said that dozen of times mentioning names. Sneijder or Ribery either alternative to Kaka or Seedorf, but easily used with them too. Both are a considerate investment and not needed if we sign Ronaldinho.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

In your own words would a 5 million rated player be of any use to us if one of the 3 i mentioned got injured? No, not really. You pay for medicority, you get mediocrity. We have enough of that already in the squad, we don't need more.

We got Pirlo for 10M, Vogel for free and Dhorasoo for free. One ended up being awesome, the other two very good reserves (I was hoping we would have kept Dhorasoo, but we even got good money for him).

Pretty much all teams in the world have "mediocre" players as reserves, some are just counted as mediocre because they don't play much. Brocchi was great in Fiorentina, Simic is still a Croatian international, Ambrosini is great, Inzaghi scored twice in the UCL final. etc.

Originally Posted by Stitch

we need only one signing - a replacement for galliani

I bet we would win a few trophies next season if we could sign someone on that position

What???????
Galiani is the best VP in europe,
I have not seen VP like him to express such a joy after Milan score a goal!!!!
He is a smart and clever guy, we still have like 40 days until the transfer season ends,right, so relax I should say!!!!!