Winter Mercato

Dont take too much notice in it

Today's Gazzetta:

Just for the member Kaka--7thUCL the Gazzetta has a huge headline:

Milan, here is the plan for Ronaldinho.
- There has been contact with his agent on Tuesday and if he becomes EU before Aug 31st he may come. If not Milan will try in January.

- They talk about how the 25% taxation rule will soon change to 44% for Dinho, since he will have been in Spain for a while.

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

Dont take too much notice in it

true as I am pretty sure most of the players on that list will remain promising players will never meet these expectations of them becoming star players.

the reason why I think pato isn't there is that he is already a star ... true, he may have a lot left to prove and develope but he is already a star.
For the same reason players like Aguero, Dos Santos etc are also not on that list.

still, if I had to go with someone from the list, Banega and Renato Augusto for me

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Milan, here is the plan for Ronaldinho.
- There has been contact with his agent on Tuesday and if he becomes EU before Aug 31st he may come. If not Milan will try in January.

The second part is making this hard to swallow.

Is it logical at all Milan to buy Ronaldinho in January ? Forget Ronaldo, it was totally different case.
Why would Barcelona sell it's best player in January, just before the CL knock-outs and why would Ronaldinho accept to miss out on CL and join Milan in January ?
Gazzetta is becoming less and less reliable lately.

If Milan fails to bring Dinho this summer then they will only sign him (if it's possible) in the summer of 2008, not in January.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

The second part is making this hard to swallow.

Is it logical at all Milan to buy Ronaldinho in January ? Forget Ronaldo, it was totally different case.
Why would Barcelona sell it's best player in January, just before the CL knock-outs and why would Ronaldinho accept to miss out on CL and join Milan in January ?
Gazzetta is becoming less and less reliable lately.

If Milan fails to bring Dinho this summer then they will only sign him (if it's possible) in the summer of 2008, not in January.

It doesn't say he will come in January, but that Milan will try then.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

The second part is making this hard to swallow.

Is it logical at all Milan to buy Ronaldinho in January ? Forget Ronaldo, it was totally different case.
Why would Barcelona sell it's best player in January, just before the CL knock-outs and why would Ronaldinho accept to miss out on CL and join Milan in January ?
Gazzetta is becoming less and less reliable lately.

If Milan fails to bring Dinho this summer then they will only sign him (if it's possible) in the summer of 2008, not in January.

IMO transfers like these are made when the right time, the "special" circumstances arrive and not necessarily in the same time frame as most other transfers are ususally made.
For instance, if kaka wanted to move to Real neither Kaka nor Real would be bothered that the right moment turned out to be in January and not June.

Why January, for one Dinho might want to take some time to see what his role in the new Barca would be with the arrival of Henry and Messi to be given more and more space on the team and probably stealing his status of Barca's #1 player.
And also Barca might wanna take time to see how Henry gels into the new team - as well as probably look more seriosuly into introducing one of Krkic or dos Santos into the senior team in place of Dinho - and they would also wanna probably take some time to prep the "ground" so to speak for the transfer as selling Dinho might create problems among fans and some of the club members etc if the move happens days after statements of the kind - "Dinho and Etoo are not for sale".

I for one doubt this could materialize in the winter period but it all really depends on all sorts of circumstances that are yet to come to the surface (if ever) - will Dinho be Barca's best player 2-3 months into the season or will he be just an expensive out of shape player who skips training sessions seemingly at will.
all in all, one never knows for certain when so much money is involved when one of the two sides could give in to the temptation.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

It doesn't say he will come in January, but that Milan will try then.

I know, but how logical is Milan to try to sign him in January ? They won't succeed and there's no reason to try
Some sort of deal between Milan and Barcelona about Dinho going to Milan in 2008 may happen during the year, but why would it be in January? They can make such deal in December, February, March.

What i am obviously trying to say, even though i'm putting it between the lines, ( ) is that Gazzetta was most probably selling not enough papers in last 10 days when the rumors "Dinho to Milan" stopped and now they must play the good old card again and with "January" they are even securing themselves for the next 3-4 months.

My position about Dinho is well known by now. I believe, actually i'm sure, he'll end up in Milan some day, probably even in 2008/09, but i give 0% chances Dinho to play in Milan in 2007/08.
I think that Gazzetta is selling You false hope and some of you are even buying it.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Today's Gazzetta:

Just for the member Kaka--7thUCL the Gazzetta has a huge headline:

Milan, here is the plan for Ronaldinho.
- There has been contact with his agent on Tuesday and if he becomes EU before Aug 31st he may come. If not Milan will try in January.

- They talk about how the 25% taxation rule will soon change to 44% for Dinho, since he will have been in Spain for a while.

Woot, hope as been restored Thank you very much for the post :P PLEASSEEE DINHOO hurry up and get your citizenship!

Ronaldinho is not coming, forget about him. We never needed him nor will we ever. He would just be an accessory to Milan. What Milan needs for next season is a fast striker (like Suazo), a player that can give Kaka a rest, attacking RB (and LB).

I dont think we will see much of Inzaghi and Maldini next season. An injury to an already injury-prone Nesta will destroy Milan. We need to think of that, because thats what happened last year before Nesta recovered. When he wasn't there, Milan were in the bottom half of the table having their worst moment in Ancelotti's Milan career.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Ronaldinho is not coming, forget about him. We never needed him nor will we ever. He would just be an accessory to Milan. What Milan needs for next season is a fast striker (like Suazo), a player that can give Kaka a rest, attacking RB (and LB).

I dont think we will see much of Inzaghi and Maldini next season. An injury to an already injury-prone Nesta will destroy Milan. We need to think of that, because thats what happened last year before Nesta recovered. When he wasn't there, Milan were in the bottom half of the table having their worst moment in Ancelotti's Milan career.

...mmmm of course we need ronaldinho or a player who can play his role. About him being an accesory...come on! lets be serious and stop with the nonsense talk. All he needs to do is get comfortable to play along side kaka. IMO having kaka, ronaldinho and ronaldo would make us the team with the best attack..not only in italy but also in europe. So please BRING THAT UGLY GUY TO AC MILAN!!!

Hitman I partly agree with you apart from when you said we need someone to enable kaka a rest, well don't you think ronaldinho can both help and give kaka a rest when needed? I do agree though that better things can be done then solemnly buying R10 and thinking it solves everything.

Originally Posted by Kaka--7thUCL

Woot, hope as been restored Thank you very much for the post :P PLEASSEEE DINHOO hurry up and get your citizenship!

Man , you're so full of positive energy and you're so optimistic (totally oposite of me ) . I love these kind of people. I hope you're like this in real life.

Only for being so positive ( unlike the "we're doomed i tell ya, we're doooooomed" members ) i'm giving you +rep points

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I know, but how logical is Milan to try to sign him in January ? They won't succeed and there's no reason to try
Some sort of deal between Milan and Barcelona about Dinho going to Milan in 2008 may happen during the year, but why would it be in January? They can make such deal in December, February, March.

What i am obviously trying to say, even though i'm putting it between the lines, ( ) is that Gazzetta was most probably selling not enough papers in last 10 days when the rumors "Dinho to Milan" stopped and now they must play the good old card again and with "January" they are even securing themselves for the next 3-4 months.

My position about Dinho is well known by now. I believe, actually i'm sure, he'll end up in Milan some day, probably even in 2008/09, but i give 0% chances Dinho to play in Milan in 2007/08.
I think that Gazzetta is selling You false hope and some of you are even buying it.

I'm finding it very very hard to agree 100% with a JUVENTINO, but ouch....ouch..... I have to say it.....I AGREE.......

Seriously, I think Tony is right on this one.
Yesterday I was watching Milan Channel and MAURO SUMA while he was responding to the E-mails and SMS's send by the fans, said for several times and enphasis to everyone to stay calm.
He was responding a question if the mercato for Milan after Pato's deal is closed.
He showed a part of a telephone call of Galliani. Galiani while responding for the first part of the question regards the similarties of the faces between Pato and Sormani, he refused to answer the second part of the question about the mercato.

So the way how Galliani refuses to answer is a hint that the Mercato for Milan is not CLOSED.

Replying for another SMS asking if Ronaldinho is Milan's next target, Mauro Suma said:
No, I don't want you to hurt yourselves, Do not built false hopes. I don't know from where La Gazzetta built the story. Listen to me and you will not hurt yourselves. I am telling you Ronaldinho is not coming next season because he is not for sale. The same thing like our Kaka. Barcellona will not let him go.
Then he smiled again and he repeated to be calm and wait.

In my opinion and what I understood is that Maro Suma knows who is the next target but cannot tell the name for obvious reasons. But he EXCLUDED completely Ronaldinho.


We will know who is he very soon, and for now keep calm

Tony what's wrong with Del Piero??????

I heard he refuses your offer to extend his contract because Juventus wanted to double his salary and he's afraid that so much euros will cause him a headache.

Il sogno a occhi aperti del presidente rossonero riapre le porte alla società di via Turati. Il fantasista verdeoro, dopo l'arrivo di Titì Henry in blaugrana e la consacrazione di Leo Messi a idolo del Camp Nou, lancia messaggi a Galliani tramite il fratello procuratore. Ma l'ad milanista ha fatto capire che deve essere il giocatore a fare i passi decisivi per ottenere il trasferimento.


di Enzo Palladini

E adesso è Ronaldinho a mandare messaggi. Con l'arrivo di Henry (grande alleato di Eto'o) e la constatazione che Messi viene considerato intoccabile, il brasiliano torna ad avere dei pruriti che sembravano scomparsi. Ecco dunque che il suo agente e fratello Roberto de Assis torna a parlare con Galliani, è pronto a intavolare una trattativa. Ma è ovvio che il Milan non può nè pagare la clausola rescissoria di 125 milioni nè fare una trattativa a oltranza con il club blaugrana. In via Turati si aspettano che sia proprio Ronaldinho ad andare dai dirigenti del Barcellona a chiedere di essere ceduto, per poi essere agevolati nella trattativa. Ma questo è un passo molto difficile da fare. Galliani resta alla finestra, prossimamente potrebbero esserci ulteriori sviluppi.

tgcom


Tgcom are saying that now Ronaldinho is sending messages to Milan.
With Henry's arrival who is Eto'o's great friend and Messi considered as an untouchable, is sending messages through his brother to Galliani.

Galliani believes that Ronaldinho himself must start negotiations with Barca. But this is very difficult.
Galliani will continue to stay in touch if further developments should occur.