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08/08/2007 16:06


Ronaldinho's Brother In Another Milan Meeting

Just one day after reports linking Milan and Ronaldinho surfaced, the player's agent and brother, Roberto Assis, has met with AC Milan...



zoom - galleria According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Roberto Assis has met with AC Milan with a view to Ronaldinho's future.

The player is under contract until 2010 and while Assis' main task is to improve the terms of that deal, Barca president Joan Laporta is unapparently unwilling to play ball.

So, the player's representative met on Monday with Milan representative Galliani in Italy. The two have previously talked over other shared clients, but this particular discussion seemed to focus around Ronaldinho.

It now seems more likely than ever that Ronaldinho's chosen destination, should he leave the Nou Camp, is the San Siro.

The player's agent is seemingly convinced, too, that a failure on Barcelona's part to improve his brother's deal could speed up a possible transfer move, although this is perhaps optimism on his part.

Milan confirmed this summer that they could not compete with Barcelona for Henry as they could not afford his 130K per week wages. It remains unclear if they will be able to do that in Ronaldinho's case.

Another issue is that Ronaldinho is still not in possession of an EU passport, making any move increasingly difficult, particularly in light of Milan's recent signing of Brazilian wunderkind Pato.

What strikes me are the words of Ancelotti:

“We have finished in the market. We aren’t after Emerson and Ronaldinho is a target for another day.”

Dont think they will ever give up, also whilst reading the Goal article it states Milan couldnt compete with Barcelona due to Henrys huge wage demands, however how will Milan work around it with R10? Anyone know?

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

What strikes me are the words of Ancelotti:

“We have finished in the market. We aren’t after Emerson and Ronaldinho is a target for another day.”

Dont think they will ever give up, also whilst reading the Goal article it states Milan couldnt compete with Barcelona due to Henrys huge wage demands, however how will Milan work around it with R10? Anyone know?

Hasan explained it somewhere in previous pages

I think that 50% of players wages go on taxes (in Italy) while in Spain it's a lot lower (20 or 30%).
There is some rule stating that if a player spends certain period of time in Spain than the taxes are higher and for Ronaldinho , taxes will be 44% instead of 20%.
So, if Ronaldinho's wages are 100 000 per week, he'll be getting 80 000 in Spain and 50 000 in Italy. But if taxes will rise to 44% then he'll "only" be getting 56 000 in Spain and now the difference is minimal.

Something like that. Hasan will tell you better but if 44% of Dinhos wages will go on taxes then the difference will not be as big and Milan can compete with Barcelona

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

What strikes me are the words of Ancelotti:

“We have finished in the market. We aren’t after Emerson and Ronaldinho is a target for another day.”

Dont think they will ever give up, also whilst reading the Goal article it states Milan couldnt compete with Barcelona due to Henrys huge wage demands, however how will Milan work around it with R10? Anyone know?

Henry earns 6 million at Barcelona. Confirmed. Milan could well have competed with that, if they really wanted to.

The way they're going to get around it is by handing over Dinho's image rights--and, of course, this is Berlu's money.

Thanks Hasan & Tony, yup I read somewhere today that as R10 is no longer a foreign player in the Liga (well not until end of August) the taxes will get higher and now he shall demand for more money from Barca. Who havent got the spending power matched with Milan.

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

Thanks Hasan & Tony, yup I read somewhere today that as R10 is no longer a foreign player in the Liga (well not until end of August) the taxes will get higher and now he shall demand for more money from Barca. Who havent got the spending power matched with Milan.

Ronaldinho will pay 44% taxes now.

Barca definitely have the spending power, but they don't have a rich benefactor like Berlusconi.

As much as I love dinho, we've been going after him far to long, if Berlusconi was after lets say someone like Quaresma for all this time he'd already have been playing our pre-season matches, hopefully we sign r10 and quick

This might have been explained for more than once, but can anybody tell me why Barca has let go Maradona, Romario and Ronaldo? The most mysterous was Romario, who scored a lot, but sold only for around 6 million. IMO, they should have sold Rivaldo earlier, before he's got slow.

No clue, but hopefully the same thing happens that happened to rivaldo, with dinho in transfer sense hopefully he actually plays good though ,if he comes

Ancelotti: 'Non ha più senso parlare di Ronaldinho'

16:59 del 08 agosto

Carlo Ancelotti, alla vigilia della trasferta di Siviglia, spegne le residue speranze dei tifosi rossoneri: `Il mercato? Per quel che mi riguarda è chiuso e rappresento in questo momento anche il pensiero della società. Parlare ad aprile di Ronaldinho poteva anche avere un senso, ma oggi, quasi a metà agosto, mi sembra proprio di no". Il tecnico rossonero commenta anche la situazione della Juve: "E` cambiata molto, viene da un anno difficile. Certo, ha grandissime motivazioni. Il suo vantaggio è che potrà preparare bene tutte le partite di campionato al massimo della condizione. Magari il problema puoò essere di affiatamento almeno all`inizio perchè ha tanti giocatori nuovi, molti dei quali arrivano dall`estero'.

Ancellotti said that talking about Ronaldinho's transfer in April may make sense but now in mid August doesn't make sense at all.

In april..?? now that makes no sense at all.

I just saw beckham drinking coffee in georgetown..he was with a bunch of MLS players that i dont even know ...

Originally Posted by mihan

This might have been explained for more than once, but can anybody tell me why Barca has let go Maradona, Romario and Ronaldo? The most mysterous was Romario, who scored a lot, but sold only for around 6 million. IMO, they should have sold Rivaldo earlier, before he's got slow.

They were forced to let Ronaldo go because Inter payed the release clause and Ronaldo wanted to go to Italy. They were helpless.

Rivaldo joined Milan on free transfer. Barcelona and Rivaldo decided to terminate his contract one year before it ended. Barcelona didn't get a penny from this transfer. Van Gaal bought Riquelme and Mendieta and he didn't want Rivaldo anymore.

Luis Figo is another star that left Barcelona. But like in Ronaldo's case, it wasn't Barcelona that wanted to sell him but it was Real Madrid that payed the release clause and offered huge money to Figo. Figo had the choice to stay in Barcelona or go to Real and he accepted the 2nd option.
Again, it wasn't Barcelona that wanted to let him go

Romario was sold on his own demand. He was tempted by a currency revaluation which meant he could earn as well in Brazil as in Spain without enduring the same discipline. Romario was always a problematic character and Barcelona simply let him go without too much fuss.

Now, in Barcelona the transfer policy depends on who is the current president. Some presidents were buying expensive , others were buying cheap so they could sell expensive.
Maradona was bought and sold during Nunez presidency. Nunez was spending like crazy but he was also always ready to make a deal if a good price is offered.
Napoli made a world record offer and Nunez decided to sell the Argentinian.


Thier current president is Laporta. After the disappointments of the Gaspar era, Laporta brought Barcelona back on top and his transfer policy is kinda different than the one of the previous presidents.
With Laporta Barcelona is a buyer not a seller.
He payed good money to bring Ronaldinho (~30m euro), Deco (15m+Quaresma = 25m), Zambrotta (14m euro), Henry(24m euro), Eto'o (24m euro) and he didn't sell a star for big bucks.

On the super-star Barcelona has been selling in past 2 decades, add MICHAEL LAUDRUP (because he fell out with Johan Cruijff after being left out in their humiliating 0-4 Athens Final, then joined Real Madrid in the most controversial transfer back then), STOCHIKOV(Parma) and current RM boss SCHUSTER(joined RM also).




Barcelona practically sold virtually all their great stars in their prime except Guardiola and Enrique maybe, but since they are Spaniard/Catalunian, they are exceptions.



Out of my gut feeling, it's just a matter of time for Barcelona to sell Ronaldinho considering they already have ready replacements (Henry/Eto'o/Messi, and Dos Santos/Bojan waiting on the wings).



It'd be either this summer, or next summer. Buy your R10 shirt in Rossoneri color already.

It'd be either next summer, or next summer if u ask me. Carlo said it right, it was normal talking about him in april, but now is far too late - but they still do it. Would be nice if they get that in their heads for once and try to get some real deal instead. Fantasy signing thread was hot after our CL win, not anymore now!