kris

kris · 03-12-2007, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobinho

He's won the Libertadores and the Club world Cup. Not many youngsters have achieved that I think you'll find.

He also won the club world cup against no other than Messi

Brasileiro · 10-03-2008, 11:31

Long time wihtout post here, my friends...
Fisrt of all, I had a accident and was in a bed for almost 2 months.
But now I´m ok, and almost at 100% of my health.

As the injury was in the lumbar column, I cannot be in a chair in front to the computer for much time, so I will to write in small installments

David Luiz(Benfica): I know 18yo Breno receives a lot of praise and hype this winter and now is a Bayern player, but if I have to put my money in a young brazilian defender right now, it would be David Luiz. Don´t get me wrong, Breno is a amazing prospect(a freak for his age) and was great in Brasileirão, but some fact needs to be take carefull...Some years ago, I was here in MM praising a young brazilian defender(Alex), and saying we need to buy him, that it was ready to play for us but I can´t say the same for Breno.

In that Santos team, Alex played in a 4 man brazilian defence(or either, with 2 attacking full baks) and paired with a below average and crazy CB(Andre Luiz). Besides that Alex was named 2 time the best brazilian defender. Breno on the other hand, played in 3 man defense(much more protect) but was chosen deservedly the rookie of the year. In that 3 man defense was also the guy chosen the best defender of brasileirão, Miranda. So, my poin is: Breno is a amazing prospect, but it is till is this, a prospect.

Now, thats takes me back to David Luiz. David IMO can´t be labeled as a prospect...a young and still in development player, but far from a prospect. I wrote about David in this thread some months ago, but everytime that I wach this boy playing, I remember of the young version of the best defender in the world: Nesta. For the ones that saw our game against Benfica(in Portugal. The first game in San Siro David was injured) in CL, had been able to see a #23 young CB tackling and cuting every attempt at his side of defense and including two decisive ones against kaká...

The lad is already in the heart of Benfica supporters, and IMO is outplaying Luizão in the middle of benfica defense. David is a future starter of brazilian Olimpic team, and receives alot o praise by Dunga. The most impressive brazilian defender that I saw since Alex, and imo will be a top 10 at the day that he goes to a big club in a BIG market(IMO Benfica is a big club).

BTW, I read one Milan suporter in a Real Madrid forum asking to a brazilian member about David luiz and saying that there´s a rumour about David in Milan...anyone saw that notice?? I´m not registred in that forum, so I can´t ask it to him...thanks

Obs: Tomorow I will write about other amazing young player(not a prospect) Hernanes, the "brazilian Pirlo" of São Paulo

Siregar · 10-03-2008, 12:34

Welcome back Brasileiro. I hope you'll be 100% healthy very soon.

Nice review. Can you also give a review about Neves?

Rico · 10-03-2008, 12:41

Thanks for the post, I enjoyed it. I'm watching Benfica - Getafe on Wednesday and I'll take a special look at Luiz.

Brasileiro · 10-03-2008, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siregar

Welcome back Brasileiro. I hope you'll be 100% healthy very soon.

Nice review. Can you also give a review about Neves?

Thanks siregar, I´m almost there...but the three months had been difficult

Neves is the tipical brazilian AMD...as I post in another thread, he isn´t a Nedved type of mid. He doesn´t have the work rate to play in a Seedorf role and help our defense.

Tiago is skilled, has a amazing shot and is a great free-kick taker(near or far). But I don´t know...I can´t come here and to say that we can to buy him like I did with Pato, Lucas, Anderson, Alex, Marcelo, Arouca...Overrated isn´t fair because hes playing really well(Renato Augusto is overrated), but if I was at Milanelo, I really don´t waste our non-euro spot with Tiago Neves...I don´t think he´s worth like the other above...

Brasileiro · 10-03-2008, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico

Thanks for the post, I enjoyed it. I'm watching Benfica - Getafe on Wednesday and I'll take a special look at Luiz.

Thanks Rico...
I hope David play, cuz I heard he was injured...if not, just take a look at #23.

EDIT: Yep, he´s injured and was also chosen the revelation of Portugal championship. Rui was chosen the Player f the Year

Siregar · 10-03-2008, 17:54

Thank you Brasileiro.

Why dont we buy him and loan him just like Inter did to Julio Cesar so next year Neves won't be a non-EU player. I think we need a player like that when we play 2 AM behind 1 stiker or when we play 4-4-2, the formation that we cant use anymore since pretty long time. I remember we used this formation a couple of times with Seedorf and Kaka as the wingers and when Sheva still played for Milan.

Regarding his defensive skills maybe Milan can train him just like Milan did to Serginho.

ACMILAN1983 · 11-03-2008, 05:31

welcome back Brasileiro, sorry to hear about the accident but very glad you're well.

guerrilla · 11-03-2008, 06:19

welcome back, Brasileiro!
i'm very sorry to hear the accident,
and very happy to hear you now are ok and in good health.
in my country China, there is a saying that "Good people will be safe for all his life" (in Chinese "好人一生平安"). i send it to you and all friends in this forum.
and let us wait for your more reviews about brazilian young players.
best wishes.

[quote=Brasileiro]Long time wihtout post here, my friends...
Fisrt of all, I had a accident and was in a bed for almost 2 months.
But now I´m ok, and almost at 100% of my health.

Brasileiro · 15-03-2008, 16:51

[quote=guerrilla]welcome back, Brasileiro!
i'm very sorry to hear the accident,
and very happy to hear you now are ok and in good health.
in my country China, there is a saying that "Good people will be safe for all his life" (in Chinese "好人一生平安"). i send it to you and all friends in this forum.
and let us wait for your more reviews about brazilian young players.
best wishes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Long time wihtout post here, my friends...
Fisrt of all, I had a accident and was in a bed for almost 2 months.
But now I´m ok, and almost at 100% of my health.

Thanks, guerilla, beautifull saying

You too, ACMILAN1983, Thanks

GeoTav · 15-03-2008, 16:57

Brasiliero, is it you who spoke about Jo on the forum ?
Just read a news: Leonardo would advice Galliani/Berlu to take him as an alternativ of Drogba or Amauri (and like he is less expensive ... lol).

hitmannq8 · 15-03-2008, 17:05

Calciomercato has something on Leonardo watching CSKA Moscow's Jo, they also put a nice video clip of him on the site.

What do you think of him Brasileiro? you think this rumour has any truth in it?

Brasileiro · 16-03-2008, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Calciomercato has something on Leonardo watching CSKA Moscow's Jo, they also put a nice video clip of him on the site.

What do you think of him Brasileiro? you think this rumour has any truth in it?

hitmannq8 and GeoTav, I hope that Leonardo don´t give this advice(Jô) to Berlu/Galliani...maybe in the future Jô prove´s me wrong, but today, I don´t want him at Milan, period!!

I will try to write about Hernanes( the Pirlo of São Paulo) and Alex Teixeira(Second striker/AMD of Vasco) today...

Brasileiro · 29-04-2008, 18:22

Since we are still linked with Hernanes, Alex Silva of São Paulo, I will write about Hernanes(I don´t think Alex Silva is worth a AC Milan no-eu spot)

Hernanes(1.80cm 76kg - 1985).
Positions: CMD, DMD, OMD, RB and Second Striker...
Yep, believing it or not, this guy, at only 23yo already played in all these positions

But it was in Pirlo´s role(or DMD) that Hernanes becoming one of the best DMD of Brazil. I thought to write about him here in MM last year after brazilian championship, but I wasn´t convinced at that time.
After a great year(2007), Hernanes drop his form in the begining of this year. But unlike his DMD pair and also called for Brazil NT(Richarlison), the boy started to prove it wasn´t a one year wonder like Richarlison.

Basically, Hernanes is a poor man Pirlo right now. But do not take this like a bash on the lad, in contrast, take this as a compliment. This "young Pirlo" isn´t also a project. To be honest, in some parts of the game he´s already better than pirlo. Said that, be carefull...I´m not saying that he´s the better player right now.

Hernanes is one of the few players in the world that can say that is ambidextrous. Watching this guy playing and shoting, you can´t realy tell which is his better leg(he´s dexterous). He also has a fierce shot on both legs. The funny thing about this Hernanes ability, was he´s quote saying that not only develope the left foot, but also the left hand. This all because his dream(when a kid) was to be a left-handed(and foot) person.

He has very good pace, drible skills, vision, pass and is becoming better and better in defense. Aslo is know as a great character and locker room guy. He has a trade mark play...this stepover(sp?) and shot:
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=wMNOAW...eature=related
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=N-R5gR0b7Po
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=z3e3EC...eature=related

He already said that molde his game watching Pirlo...so, why not bring the apprentice to learn and play with the master?? Problem?? Don´t have european passaport. But if you ask me and we don´t bring Alex(Chelsea) he´s worth the spot.

Coincidence or not, while I was writing this post, Dino Sani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Sani , maybe the first "Pirlo" of AC Milan(Dino was a OMD at São Paulo and later it was transformed in a DMD) was talking about currently players and praising Hernanes.
For the ones that don´t know Dino Sani, he played this "Pirlo´s role" at the AC Milan side winner of scudetto 1961-62 and 1962-63 European Cup and was the coach that in the past disclosed for the football the best DMD that I saw playing: Falcão, "The King of Rome". So, getting compliments from a legend and one of the best players at his position in Brazil isn´t for everyone...and if the rumours are right, and Leonardo realy wants Hernanes(and I hope not Alex Silva), in Milan, I will be more than happy.

Even if we use the non-euro spot in some one more established in Europe, he´s more than worth a buy and loan for a middle team in Italy, to be brought later. If not, we could bring the boy right now and he will fight for a starting job...IMO he´s more worth the non-euro spot than a guy like Sheva, period!

hitmannq8 · 30-04-2008, 05:50

Tuttosport (most unreliable paper) apparently say that Sao Paolo president is in Milan right now to negotiate a deal for Hernanez...another report say that Inter have become closer to Hernanez than Milan.

(could be lies, seeing as the Sao Paolo president is just trying to keep Adriano for longer at Sao Paolo)

15-03-2008, 16:57	#341
GeoTav Registered User Join Date: 02 2008 Location: Dunkerque (France) Fave Players: Almost all AC Milan players	Brasiliero, is it you who spoke about Jo on the forum ? Just read a news: Leonardo would advice Galliani/Berlu to take him as an alternativ of Drogba or Amauri (and like he is less expensive ... lol). __________________ One should not speak ill of the dead. So we should stop bashing Juventus ... Serie A Fantasy League The topic on MM The avatar to use by MM members

29-04-2008, 18:22	#344
Brasileiro Registered User Join Date: 09 2003 Location: Salvador-Brasil Fave Players: Ricardinho,Serginho, Kaká,Alex,Pirlo,Paolo,Baresi,	Since we are still linked with Hernanes, Alex Silva of São Paulo, I will write about Hernanes(I don´t think Alex Silva is worth a AC Milan no-eu spot) Hernanes(1.80cm 76kg - 1985). Positions: CMD, DMD, OMD, RB and Second Striker... Yep, believing it or not, this guy, at only 23yo already played in all these positions But it was in Pirlo´s role(or DMD) that Hernanes becoming one of the best DMD of Brazil. I thought to write about him here in MM last year after brazilian championship, but I wasn´t convinced at that time. After a great year(2007), Hernanes drop his form in the begining of this year. But unlike his DMD pair and also called for Brazil NT(Richarlison), the boy started to prove it wasn´t a one year wonder like Richarlison. Basically, Hernanes is a poor man Pirlo right now. But do not take this like a bash on the lad, in contrast, take this as a compliment. This "young Pirlo" isn´t also a project. To be honest, in some parts of the game he´s already better than pirlo. Said that, be carefull...I´m not saying that he´s the better player right now. Hernanes is one of the few players in the world that can say that is ambidextrous. Watching this guy playing and shoting, you can´t realy tell which is his better leg(he´s dexterous). He also has a fierce shot on both legs. The funny thing about this Hernanes ability, was he´s quote saying that not only develope the left foot, but also the left hand. This all because his dream(when a kid) was to be a left-handed(and foot) person. He has very good pace, drible skills, vision, pass and is becoming better and better in defense. Aslo is know as a great character and locker room guy. He has a trade mark play...this stepover(sp?) and shot: http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=wMNOAW...eature=related http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=N-R5gR0b7Po http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=z3e3EC...eature=related He already said that molde his game watching Pirlo...so, why not bring the apprentice to learn and play with the master?? Problem?? Don´t have european passaport. But if you ask me and we don´t bring Alex(Chelsea) he´s worth the spot. Coincidence or not, while I was writing this post, Dino Sani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Sani , maybe the first "Pirlo" of AC Milan(Dino was a OMD at São Paulo and later it was transformed in a DMD) was talking about currently players and praising Hernanes. For the ones that don´t know Dino Sani, he played this "Pirlo´s role" at the AC Milan side winner of scudetto 1961-62 and 1962-63 European Cup and was the coach that in the past disclosed for the football the best DMD that I saw playing: Falcão, "The King of Rome". So, getting compliments from a legend and one of the best players at his position in Brazil isn´t for everyone...and if the rumours are right, and Leonardo realy wants Hernanes(and I hope not Alex Silva), in Milan, I will be more than happy. Even if we use the non-euro spot in some one more established in Europe, he´s more than worth a buy and loan for a middle team in Italy, to be brought later. If not, we could bring the boy right now and he will fight for a starting job...IMO he´s more worth the non-euro spot than a guy like Sheva, period! Last edited by Brasileiro; 29-04-2008 at 18:24.

10-03-2008, 11:31	#332
Brasileiro Registered User Join Date: 09 2003 Location: Salvador-Brasil Fave Players: Ricardinho,Serginho, Kaká,Alex,Pirlo,Paolo,Baresi,	Long time wihtout post here, my friends... Fisrt of all, I had a accident and was in a bed for almost 2 months. But now I´m ok, and almost at 100% of my health. As the injury was in the lumbar column, I cannot be in a chair in front to the computer for much time, so I will to write in small installments David Luiz(Benfica): I know 18yo Breno receives a lot of praise and hype this winter and now is a Bayern player, but if I have to put my money in a young brazilian defender right now, it would be David Luiz. Don´t get me wrong, Breno is a amazing prospect(a freak for his age) and was great in Brasileirão, but some fact needs to be take carefull...Some years ago, I was here in MM praising a young brazilian defender(Alex), and saying we need to buy him, that it was ready to play for us but I can´t say the same for Breno. In that Santos team, Alex played in a 4 man brazilian defence(or either, with 2 attacking full baks) and paired with a below average and crazy CB(Andre Luiz). Besides that Alex was named 2 time the best brazilian defender. Breno on the other hand, played in 3 man defense(much more protect) but was chosen deservedly the rookie of the year. In that 3 man defense was also the guy chosen the best defender of brasileirão, Miranda. So, my poin is: Breno is a amazing prospect, but it is till is this, a prospect. Now, thats takes me back to David Luiz. David IMO can´t be labeled as a prospect...a young and still in development player, but far from a prospect. I wrote about David in this thread some months ago, but everytime that I wach this boy playing, I remember of the young version of the best defender in the world: Nesta. For the ones that saw our game against Benfica(in Portugal. The first game in San Siro David was injured) in CL, had been able to see a #23 young CB tackling and cuting every attempt at his side of defense and including two decisive ones against kaká... The lad is already in the heart of Benfica supporters, and IMO is outplaying Luizão in the middle of benfica defense. David is a future starter of brazilian Olimpic team, and receives alot o praise by Dunga. The most impressive brazilian defender that I saw since Alex, and imo will be a top 10 at the day that he goes to a big club in a BIG market(IMO Benfica is a big club). BTW, I read one Milan suporter in a Real Madrid forum asking to a brazilian member about David luiz and saying that there´s a rumour about David in Milan...anyone saw that notice?? I´m not registred in that forum, so I can´t ask it to him...thanks Obs: Tomorow I will write about other amazing young player(not a prospect) Hernanes, the "brazilian Pirlo" of São Paulo

10-03-2008, 12:34	#333
Siregar Registered User Join Date: 02 2007 Location: Franken Fave Players: Marco Ezio FOSSATI & Simone Andrea GANZ	Welcome back Brasileiro. I hope you'll be 100% healthy very soon. Nice review. Can you also give a review about Neves?

10-03-2008, 12:41	#334
Rico Registered User Join Date: 04 2007 Location: Skive Fave Players: Kaka, Massaro, Ancelotti, Gullit, Sheva, Albertini	Thanks for the post, I enjoyed it. I'm watching Benfica - Getafe on Wednesday and I'll take a special look at Luiz.

10-03-2008, 17:54	#337
Siregar Registered User Join Date: 02 2007 Location: Franken Fave Players: Marco Ezio FOSSATI & Simone Andrea GANZ	Thank you Brasileiro. Why dont we buy him and loan him just like Inter did to Julio Cesar so next year Neves won't be a non-EU player. I think we need a player like that when we play 2 AM behind 1 stiker or when we play 4-4-2, the formation that we cant use anymore since pretty long time. I remember we used this formation a couple of times with Seedorf and Kaka as the wingers and when Sheva still played for Milan. Regarding his defensive skills maybe Milan can train him just like Milan did to Serginho.

11-03-2008, 05:31	#338
ACMILAN1983 Registered User Join Date: 01 2004 Location: England Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo and rest of Milan	welcome back Brasileiro, sorry to hear about the accident but very glad you're well.

11-03-2008, 06:19	#339
guerrilla Registered User Join Date: 06 2006	welcome back, Brasileiro! i'm very sorry to hear the accident, and very happy to hear you now are ok and in good health. in my country China, there is a saying that "Good people will be safe for all his life" (in Chinese "好人一生平安"). i send it to you and all friends in this forum. and let us wait for your more reviews about brazilian young players. best wishes. [quote=Brasileiro]Long time wihtout post here, my friends... Fisrt of all, I had a accident and was in a bed for almost 2 months. But now I´m ok, and almost at 100% of my health.

15-03-2008, 17:05	#342
hitmannq8 Registered User Join Date: 10 2004 Location: Montreal, Kuwait Fave Players: Kaka, Nesta, Rui Costa, Pato, Robinho	Calciomercato has something on Leonardo watching CSKA Moscow's Jo, they also put a nice video clip of him on the site. What do you think of him Brasileiro? you think this rumour has any truth in it?

30-04-2008, 05:50	#345
hitmannq8 Registered User Join Date: 10 2004 Location: Montreal, Kuwait Fave Players: Kaka, Nesta, Rui Costa, Pato, Robinho	Tuttosport (most unreliable paper) apparently say that Sao Paolo president is in Milan right now to negotiate a deal for Hernanez...another report say that Inter have become closer to Hernanez than Milan. (could be lies, seeing as the Sao Paolo president is just trying to keep Adriano for longer at Sao Paolo)