Summer Mercato

Ronaldinho will 150% leave Barcelona this summer.

We all know the problems within their dressing room. But there's another one crucial reason:

Spanish taxation gives football clubs some privileges as you know. In other words, Ronaldinho's contract has a tax pressure of 25 %.

From this summer, the taxation will be the double, because after a x number of years the privilege expires. That means his wage will cost Barca the double.

That's why they will surely sold him.

Originally Posted by Giovanni

Ronaldinho will 150% leave Barcelona this summer.

We all know the problems within their dressing room. But there's another one crucial reason:

Spanish taxation gives football clubs some privileges as you know. In other words, Ronaldinho's contract has a tax pressure of 25 %.

From this summer, the taxation will be the double, because after a x number of years the privilege expires. That means his wage will cost Barca the double.

That's why they will surely sold him.

At least your law degree is useful for something

With us of course, sorry !! lol
I think you almost had an heart-attack ? lol

Yes they say he's gonna sign his contract with us in few days, all is ok between Barça and Milan (30M euros). Anyway, I don't know if it is a good source, Ronaldinho is loved by French medias since he played in Paris, but how can/could they know that more than Italian and Spanish ones ? lol

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

At least your law degree is useful for something

I'm warming up for the Taxation Laws test

Originally Posted by Giovanni

I'm warming up for the Taxation Laws test

Well if they have questions about Spanish tax & footballers you should be all set to get 100%

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Well if they have questions about Spanish tax & footballers you should be all set to get 100%

Today the lecturer explained how smoothly some clubs cheated the taxation authorities with fake plusvalences..i though: "WTF Galliani is a genious".

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=655180

Galliani: We Have All But Signed Ronaldinho & Sheva
Milan Vice President Adriano Galliani has declared that the club have all but signed Ronaldinho and Andriy Shevchenko, stating that both are “180 per cent Milan players”.

Originally Posted by Stitch

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=655180

Galliani: We Have All But Signed Ronaldinho & Sheva
Milan Vice President Adriano Galliani has declared that the club have all but signed Ronaldinho and Andriy Shevchenko, stating that both are “180 per cent Milan players”.

I very much doubt the credability of this source for one reason, it says "Both players are expected to cost just in excess of 20 million euros each." Who in their right mind would pay 20 million for Shevchenko? He hasn't played in like three years and is 32 years old, he isn't even worth 10 million nevertheless 20.

Besides that, I also think this is just another trick Galliani is playing on the fans to get them to buy tickets next year. The same way he was always talking about signing huge stars every single summer but end up delivering nothing. As we all know, transfer talks don't usually heat up until the season is over. So, for Galliani to wrap up the deals right now for both of these players just sounds fishy. This is especially true in Ronaldinho's case as his transfer would be a complicated one to complete considering the wages, transfer fees, and sponsor problems involved.

Originally Posted by slifersd

I very much doubt the credability of this source for one reason, it says "Both players are expected to cost just in excess of 20 million euros each." Who in their right mind would pay 20 million for Shevchenko? He hasn't played in like three years and is 32 years old, he isn't even worth 10 million nevertheless 20.

Besides that, I also think this is just another trick Galliani is playing on the fans to get them to buy tickets next year. The same way he was always talking about signing huge stars every single summer but end up delivering nothing. As we all know, transfer talks don't usually heat up until the season is over. So, for Galliani to wrap up the deals right now for both of these players just sounds fishy. This is especially true in Ronaldinho's case as his transfer would be a complicated one to complete considering the wages, transfer fees, and sponsor problems involved.

The prices may be off but I don't think that means the deal is just a rumour. Also Galiani and Berlu wouldn't say the things they have been quoted saying about this deal, if it wasn't very close to being completed. If this deal falls through they know that they'd better head for the hills or get ready for perhaps the biggest backlash of all times Milan Fans.
Especially after the idiotic handling of the recent transfer windows.

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

The prices may be off but I don't think that means the deal is just a rumour. Also Galiani and Berlu wouldn't say the things they have been quoted saying about this deal, if it wasn't very close to being completed. If this deal falls through they know that they'd better head for the hills or get ready for perhaps the biggest backlash of all times Milan Fans.
Especially after the idiotic handling of the recent transfer windows.

I don't think the deal is just a rumor as I do believe the clubs are negotiating. I just don't think any of those deal are done deal yet as they have been reporting. Based on what they have been doing the last few years, I wouldn't count on what Galliani and Berlusconi say any more. They will say what they have to say to keep fans in their seats only to turn their backs on us when it's time to deliver on their promises. Like I said in the original post, I don't think it is possible for the Ronaldinho deal to be done right now due to its many complications. Those issues couldn't possibly be solved in a matter of two weeks.

As far as the management goes, they should still be running for the hills if Shevchenko and Ronaldinho are the only signings of the summer. Even a blind man can see that we need a new goalkeeper and true center striker before those two. Their lack of planning and ambition is killing this team right now and those two guys are not going to solve the problems we have.

IF Galli is not lying, then I will really welcome Sheva and Ronnie to Milan.
The attack will be awesome with those two coming over.
Ronnie will be Ronnie and Sheva is Sheva. Yes, he might have left us when we needed him the most.... but it shows that he admited made a mistake and wants to come back.

I also read that Drogba is heading toward one of the MIlan teams. Imagine he is coming to Milan also, that would be awesome. The attack of Pato, Pippo, Sheva, Drogba, Borreillo, Ronnie, Kaka and Polaschi. Thats awesome stuff. Not to mention Zambrotta coming over too.

All we need is a solid keeper, another toughnose midfielder, another CB and thats would make Milan Grande Milano

i also had that thought what IF drobga IS coming to milan that would be the powerful target striker that we needed and surely i cant imagine gila staying and there hasnt been much about about him going to a different team maybe Milan have already agreed to sell him to another club? who knows...

Originally Posted by Rayno_acm

OH yeah???? As I remember, there were other players, who left us in that summer. Are they traitors too? Is Rui Costa a traitor too, or Jaap Stam? They left us in the same moment and even without our club to benefit from that at all, they left for free. Then why Rui Costa received so much love and appreciation when he came to "San Siro" with Benfica???
Don't get me wrong, I think Rui really deserved every second of what he experienced on "San Siro", he is a legend
But it's not fair Sheva to be judged as a traitor, cuz he's not. When he took his decision, NOBODY knew what the situation was, even in the beginning of the scandal Berlusconi asked Milan to recieve the both scudetti, for 2004-05 and for 2005-06.
It's not fair to judge somebody from one single act in his life, to blast him til the rest of his life, expecially when every other act of that person shows the opposite. We are all people, everyone can make a mistake, why it's so hard for you to understand it???

Rui and Jaap left because they had said before that they wanted to end their careers in their home land. On the contrary Shevy had said that he wanted to be like Maldini, a symbol of the club and he did just the contrary.

You can judge a person by his single act, because there are times when you are forced to make very crucial decisions in your life, the ones you just can't afford to screw up, because like it or not, that decisions will haunt you for the rest of your life either with regret or relieve.

Everybody makes mistakes, no doubt about that. But then they MUST pay for that mistake. So let him stay where ever he is now because personal sentiments aside, he's just not that good anymore

Originally Posted by slifersd

I don't think the deal is just a rumor as I do believe the clubs are negotiating. I just don't think any of those deal are done deal yet as they have been reporting. Based on what they have been doing the last few years, I wouldn't count on what Galliani and Berlusconi say any more. They will say what they have to say to keep fans in their seats only to turn their backs on us when it's time to deliver on their promises. Like I said in the original post, I don't think it is possible for the Ronaldinho deal to be done right now due to its many complications. Those issues couldn't possibly be solved in a matter of two weeks.

As far as the management goes, they should still be running for the hills if Shevchenko and Ronaldinho are the only signings of the summer. Even a blind man can see that we need a new goalkeeper and true center striker before those two. Their lack of planning and ambition is killing this team right now and those two guys are not going to solve the problems we have.

It's two years they are dealing with De Assis. The deals are peaking right now because in Italy tomorrow and monday we have political elections for the Prime Minister and Berlusconi is likely to win.

I think they wanted a boast of image right now, but the deal with Ronaldinho is almost sure. Everyone, from Spain to Italy, would tell you that.

Well, certainly looks like the deal is done. I wonder how much Galliani has agreed to pay for R10? Anyone know? ANd what about Sheva---would it be a Crespo style loan deal or a permanent transfer?