Summer Mercato

I have never followed the story, Dev, and will be great if you expalin it to me: What happens to dinho this year exactly?

I believe Ronaldinho's value is right now around 30-35 mln. Yes, it is not too much in my honest oppinion. Ronaldimnho is probable the most talented palyer in the world who is not seriously injured ( like Ronaldo ), is 28 and can play in every club in the world. Also, the player will pay for himself through attendance, shirts and so on...

Zambrotta has shown ( to those who didnt believe me and Giovanni ) that he is one of the best, if not the best, fullback in the world. He cant be beaten 1 on 1. Out of 10 duels he wins 8/9.

Those two players are unbelievable palyers and I hope Berlusconi will pay what Barcelona ios asking for. 40 mln for both would be somewhere in between and it is a afir price, if not even too low.

Seedorf has palyed his football as a starter, he cant play more then 20 games per season at the highest tempo ( if is rotated). And if he is not rotated he can play TEN games at the highest tempo, which he has shown this year. Yes, he is a player of true quality and vision, but the tempo of the game eats him alive.

Players like Cigarini, Dessena, Aquilani, Montolivo, Flamini are welcomed as our duo/trident Pirlo-Rino-Ambvro cant play whole season long and Brocchi and emerson dont belong here.

milan needs freshness and quality so that our real stars can shine ( rino, Pirlo, Kaka', Pato, Nesta, Kaladze, Ambro...).

Adebayor - no. Savage player that doesnt belong in Milan class behaviour. But a good player indeed.

I think it is quite sad to see Gaucho decline in Spain. He has been so happy there.

For us... God, if we can restore that talent. Who knows? Scudetto maybe...

Originally Posted by Jeff

I have never followed the story, Dev, and will be great if you expalin it to me: What happens to dinho this year exactly?

Hopefully what we're all hoping.

I totally agree with ACMILAN1983's last post ...

Other thing, I didn't know Piersilvio Berlusconi before 1-2 weeks ago (I even didn't know he was on Earth) but it seems like he has a very critical vision of the transferts, I mean, he analyzed what was needed etc and seems to know what he speaks about ... now I understand why some people want him to be the next owner after Berlu senior lol.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I totally agree with ACMILAN1983's last post ...

Other thing, I didn't know Piersilvio Berlusconi before 1-2 weeks ago (I even didn't know he was on Earth) but it seems like he has a very critical vision of the transferts, I mean, he analyzed what was needed etc and seems to know what he speaks about ... now I understand why some people want him to be the next owner after Berlu senior lol.

Even during this season he said few times that some players do not belong in Milan naymore. he even mentioned some names: Dida and Gilardino, in the middle of the season.

tough guy

EDIT:

But another thing that is ahppening, and Piersilvio is obviously not in that business, is that managers and manager circles are selling their old and injured palyers around to their friends, making profits and dont care about the club. We bought 3 cronicaly injured players from Madrid: Redondo, Ronaldo, Emerson...now we want INURED Nistelrooy? Dont say we didnt know those players cant play anymore. We have the best medical facilitys in Europe. Money goes around regarding the results, managers sell their players and share the money and so on... That is what is happening in Galliani's circles. I know it sounds excessive, but to me it saounds quite normal.

now its time to pay for real players and not mediocre old players that have only name that has worth as a historical monument. We want Sheva only for 0 euro, that is the latest.

Modern football needs fast, young and strong players.

mrki, I would agree with you valuation of Dinho's value, except for a critical factor, which is him having the option to buy out his contract. This option would mean Barca get 20m euros, anything more is really a bonus. Based on that, anything we pay over 20m is in excess of his real market value. As for Zambro, I think he's still a risk (we need regularity of performances like last night), but I'm positive. The two together shouldn't in reality cost more than around 25-30m euros and I feel certain we can get it done for under 40m.

How come you call Adebayor a savage player? His behaviour hasn't ever really been a major issue as far as I remember (although he's apparently quite arrogant).

Originally Posted by Jeff

I have never followed the story, Dev, and will be great if you expalin it to me: What happens to dinho this year exactly?

There's been numerous issues/rumours surrounding him. Basically, it all began last season (loss of shape, form etc) and now it's gotten much worse, where his form is very poor compared to the past, physically he's considered out of shape (not Ronaldo levels mind) and seems to be picking up injuries all the time, which many believe are fake to hide backroom issues. He's fallen out with the fans, the management it seems and apparently the dressing room is divided (with him one of those being at the centre of it).

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

How come you call Adebayor a savage player? His behaviour hasn't ever really been a major issue as far as I remember (although he's apparently quite arrogant).

Headbutt with Bendtner.

And they are still not friends.

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

This would be ok for me, regarding players in during the summer:
Frey, Ramos, Vargas, Aquilani, Diego, Ronaldinho, Drogba.

To sign these players you would need 300 millions (tag + wage)

I understand that most of you want Zambrotta and talk about the price for him and R10 30 mil or 40 mil thats too much. Zambro is good but he is 31 years old. I like him he is good but two more season and we have to buy a new player.
If they both cost 40 mil, so r10 is 30 mil and Zambro 10mil? I dont like that.
Gallianis proposal is good, maybe add another 5 to 8 mil and thats it.:P)

So if we fail to sign Dinho we at MM are going to the old plan right:

Frey, Zambrotta, Alves, Aquilani, Benzema

Originally Posted by Bosniaco

I understand that most of you want Zambrotta and talk about the price for him and R10 30 mil or 40 mil thats too much. Zambro is good but he is 31 years old. I like him he is good but two more season and we have to buy a new player.
If they both cost 40 mil, so r10 is 30 mil and Zambro 10mil? I dont like that.
Gallianis proposal is good, maybe add another 5 to 8 mil and thats it.:P)

Zambrotta is an extraordinary athlet. He can play more than 2 years at top level.

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=65716

can anyone translate this please ??? atleast maybe you Giovanni?

The Barca part is basically what we know:

Ronaldinho wishes to come for sure but there is no agreement because the amount Barca is asking is too high but since the market closes at the end of August there is a lot of time to work on it and usually player arrive in July or so anyway.
There is no link in the negotiations to buy Zambro and Ronaldinho eventhough we are looking at both