Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by Bosniaco

Galliani needs to sign some players to sadisfy me, right now we are just selling and players are leaving I hope Galliani can find replacments on time.

So wait now...u r not satisfied that we have made space to accommodate new arrivals?

I dont know how you thinks these things work...but it seems to me that either you dont, or are just being difficult...

But who am I to say...I am now an Inter fan...seeing as how this management doesnt have a clue as to what they are doing...Moratti..now he knows his stuff!!

Originally Posted by kris

I am pleased to see we didn't sign Barzagli, like I said in another thread. I don't see how two defenders from one of the worst defenses in Serie A could improve us in any way.

Yet he manages to make the Italian NT ahead of Bonera AND Oddo Wow he must be really crap huh?

He is overrated, Dru.
Ok, i admit that i don't like him at all so i may not be objective, but whenever i watched him he was bad, awful actually. Owned in one-on-one's, bad positioning, only good in air.

Now, i'm aware he's not crap, but he's overrated and it's like that exactly because he made it to the NT. But how did he make it there ? How many quality CB's there were in Italy in 2006, apart from Nesta, Cannavaro and Materazzi ? Name me one.
How many quality Cb's are there now, considering that even Nesta is not there ? Completely out of form Cannavaro and Materazzi (both of them +35 yo) are in front of him in the picking order.
He's 27, he's having his best years, why isn't he a starter if he's good ?

Why did he play in Palermo until he was 27 and moved to bloody Wolfsburg ? Why Inter, Juve, Milan, Barcelona, Real. Manchester, Bayern, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Lyon didn't even try to buy him ?

I'm also against the terms "Juve material", "Milan material" but i'm sure that Barzagli wouldn't have been an improvement over anyone in Milan's, Juve's or Inter's defense and i believe that's why none of them wanted him.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Whats with the wife and players??
Thats sounds interesting

Domenech's wife is a known TV woman ... she owns a TV Show on football, one on news and one on poker. When you watch her, you don't know why she is with Domenech ... lol, just my personal opinion, she's younger and beautiful.

Anyway, these boring stories are something like a private message sent by Giuly after the first TV Show from Domenech's wife (Domenech wasn't French NT coach), Giuly apologized and said he didn't know she was married ... for Pirés, it seems like Domenech's wife is an ex-girlfriend from him lol, for Mexes, I don't know but rumours were saying there had been something between both and for Trézéguet, nothing related to his wife, just football and probably persons not liking each other ...

It's just "people" news, nothing interesting for football ...

Originally Posted by drucurl

If I hear that phrase ONE more time I'll scream Ignoring the fact that you have been rude to everyone differing from your opinion, how do you know that Barzagli won't be good enough? Do you know that he has been on many posters' "dream signings" list Isn't he at least better than Kaladze, Bonera, Simic, Digao Tell me oh GREAT BRK "WHO IS GOOD ENOUGH TO START FOR MILAN"

Barzagli is too good to be on the bench. Not good enough to replace Kaladze. That's my point.

Edit: If we sold Kaladze, then yes, I'd consider Barzagli. I'd rather have Zapata in that circumstance, though. But since the Georgian is still our starting CB, along with Nesta, I don't see why we should tear our hair out for losing Barzagli.

Originally Posted by jmacpherson

brk, I have to disagree. Ferdinand isn't that great to be honest. He makes too many silly mistakes and loses concentration to often.
Vidic makes him look good, take Vidic out of the defence and ManU wouldn't have won the league and ucl final.



Now Vidic would be a far better addition. Come to think of it, the best defenders in the EPL are all foreign.

I was being sarcastic. We can't sign Messi and Ferdinand. We don't NEED to sign Ferdinand or Messi. There's no vacancy. As we all know, we have 8 or 9 players that are promised a starting spot. They are GK, Nesta, Kaladze, Ambro, Gennaro, Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf and Pato. We can't buy a player that is as good, or even better than those players and expect them to be happy. They're paid to play and they expect to play. You can't buy Ronaldinho and expect Seedorf to be happy. He knows that his place will be at risk. Its not worth ruining the harmony of the team just for the sake of pleasing some heartbroken and angry fans. Unless we sell one of those players, you can't buy a world class player in their position. By world class player, I include young players with the potential to be great. Nasri, Zapata, etc. If there's no room, they won't play, and they won't grow. Learn from the Gourcuff experience. We have room in LB/RB, FW and GK. That's it. No need to worry about CB or any midfield role anymore, at least not in the first 11.


Oh, and yes, I'm a little annoying. But at least i'm realistic. We can't all be whiny little kids.

Originally Posted by Bosniaco

Mr.Bald dude is waining about money. If players are expensive the sperstar players then he should focus on the young talents. Montolivo, Pazzini, Rossi,
Nasri, non of these players are more then 15-20 mil.

Galliani brace your self because the special one is in charge of Inter, Moratti will buy whatever Mourinho wants, I really cant see us wining the scudetto.

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?ac...ad&idsel=17166

This is the kinda crap that Galiani always says. "Players are too expensive." It is what it is, put up or shut up Galiani.

Didn't he learn anything from last years transfer window. It doesn't pay in the long run to be cheap and horde your money. I realize management doesn't want to be taken advantage of in the market, but really I haven't heard any other team's management name drop as much as ours, and then turn around and complain that their targets are too expensive.

That is a stupid statement for a team that has only made one significant signing in the past couple of years and who have just been selling. Everyone one can see our managements pattern in the market and are starting to block it, I'd do the same if I were them, because eventually it will affect the product and then the bottom line...it's business.

We are fast becoming a laughing stock in the transfer market and it's showing on the pitch.

So Galiani, dig in those pockets pull out the money get the RIGHT players and lets keep it moving.

@ Jeff Re your comment in the Lloris thread - If management doesn't know the RIGHT target from just A target they are in worse condition then we think and need serious .

Therefore, I do believe that they know who the RIGHT target is, but are not willing to purchase him if they feel the price is too high, filling him with a less expensive alternative, or just not purchasing anyone at all.

Regarding the notion of being 'Good enough for Milan':



The whole argument is false. It doesn't make sense because we're not starting from a blank slate. Imagine Milan starting next season with no players at all. If that is the case, then having this argument makes sense. Since we can start from scratch and build the team around all the available players regardless of any history and cohesion the team has already achieved. But we're not starting from scratch. We already have a team, and we have a commitment to the players. A financial commitment and an investment in time, love and harmony. We have built an identity through the years of a team forged around a robust midfield, and attacking full backs; A style of play that should continue as a result of the transfers we consider.

We can't simply identify the best players in the world, the best young promising talent, and then force them into our system. That's what Chelsea does. It doesn't work that way. Unless you want to overhaul the team, you can't replace the integral elements, and seeing as how Ancelotti seems certain to stay for the near future, I don't see that happening.

You need to identify the flaws in our current squad and also the opportunities that would arise should certain elements or players are added. Our system works. The fundamentals are the best in the world. We don't need to yearn for a big name signing just for the sake of reassuring ourselves of our dominance and greatness. That vanity and insecurity is deadly. It will only lead to chaos and a loss of identity.

Every player can be 'good enough for Milan' if he has the qualities required in a position that those qualities are asked for. Etoo is needed. Zambro is needed. Essien is not. Messi is not. The investment in those players will raise our game, for sure, but it will come at price. Both financial and personal. We can raise our game for less (better investment) if we get someone we truly need. Someone good enough for Milan.

Take it easy Warro, let him indulge himself. the amount of players that failed and succed is enormous, everyone got someone right and wrong. that is also ignoring that these successes and failures may have depended on the ove itself.

I could easily blow my own trumpet by naming a list of players that I predicted correctly about. I'll pass today.

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

Typical mindless Galliani scapegoating.

Pato, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, and now Flamini. These are all excellent signings made by Galliani and his team.

We don't need to waste our money buying players we don't need. We need a GK, a world class FW, and few more squad players. We will get all of them.

If you want to bathe in the glow of the false pride that comes with big name big money signings, you're following the wrong team, bro. The last big money signings were Pippo, Nesta and Rui. Since then the team has successfully built a working cohesive unit. The club is a business, and its a family. Its not a reality show. If you start expecting a big prize every season, you'll always want more, and you'll always be disappointed. I'm proud of Galliani and Berlusconi. They don't give in to pressure or impulses like they used to (Rivaldo...) Ronaldo was a risk worth taking. So was Oliveira. Baptista in my opinion was the one that got away last season. We could have used him. The team is not broken. It just needs to freshen up a bit.


Edit: I also thought Oddo was a mistake. They must have had their reasons, and maybe the better options were too expensive. In those circumstances we do have a right to bemoan the management. At the time, though, Oddo could have gone either way. I'm sad that he never really got going the way we all hoped. Same with Janku.

Gila went to Fiorentina nobody knows that?
About trasfers i agree with anonymous, to build a big team you need players...

Originally Posted by drucurl

Yet he manages to make the Italian NT ahead of Bonera AND Oddo Wow he must be really crap huh?

Boumsong made the French national team, before Mexes. Boumsong have been utter crap for 4 years before he had a good halfseason with Lyon. Barzagli is picked because a lack of alternatives and partly because Donadoni made a bad choice. Gamberini on the other hand should have been picked, Fiorentina's best defender.

Barzagli is a player very similar to Kaladze, big, strong and slow. Just that Kaladze is better and unlike Barzagli he doesn't marshall the third worst defense in serie A. Let me add that Palermo's goalie was also one of the best rated players in serie A last season.

Originally Posted by kris

Take it easy Warro, let him indulge himself. the amount of players that failed and succed is enormous, everyone got someone right and wrong. that is also ignoring that these successes and failures may have depended on the ove itself.

I could easily blow my own trumpet by naming a list of players that I predicted correctly about. I'll pass today.

Indeed sirrah, indeed.

I retract said post, and am truly sorry if I offended.

Originally Posted by Giorgos

Gila went to Fiorentina nobody knows that?
About trasfers i agree with anonymous, to build a big team you need players...

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Yes, and to make lemonade, you need lemons.

What are you saying? Of course we need players. The point is which players. What are the gaps that need to be filled. What are the elements that need to be replaced.



Gila: It was obvious since about April that Gila was leaving. Ancelotti almost seemed like he was punishing him on that bench...

Originally Posted by brk

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Yes, and to make lemonade, you need lemons.

What are you saying? Of course we need players. The point is which players. What are the gaps that need to be filled. What are the elements that need to be replaced.



Gila: It was obvious since about April that Gila was leaving. Ancelotti almost seemed like he was punishing him on that bench...

He refers to Mr. Anonymous' post.

What you said I quote are things that people already know.

Originally Posted by brk

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Yes, and to make lemonade, you need lemons.

What are you saying? Of course we need players. The point is which players. What are the gaps that need to be filled. What are the elements that need to be replaced.



Gila: It was obvious since about April that Gila was leaving. Ancelotti almost seemed like he was punishing him on that bench...

After Gila leaving we have Pippo, Pato mainly (Paloschi)... we can survive with one more striker? i doubt


1 GK 2, DF (CB or WB), another one more creating midfield ( As Rui Costa was) and 2 Strikers

5 .... + Flamini 6 is not so out of date...