Summer Mercato

Reports suggest that Borriello is a Milan player? is that true, did I miss something today?

Originally Posted by Siregar

Great! We need big target man now to eat Zambro crosses

I dont know, I think Gila is better at heading the ball compare to Boriello.

Isn't that crazy!!!

I think Boriello coming to Milan is worse than R10 coming. Boriello wants to be the starter and most likely won't be and if he is, I hope he can duplicate last seasons efforts.

With Dinho in team, we can use our midfielders more (Pirlo, Ambro, Gattuso and Flamini) in 4-3-2-1 formation or 4-2-1-2-1 formation (with Pirlo infront of Flamini/Ambro Gattuso and behind Ronaldinho and Kaka).

Ronaldinho will come, I am sure about this. But I am not that satisfied if we have only Pato and Boriello for our strikers (plus Inzaghi naturally). Paloschi should stay if Ronaldinho comes to give more options for Ancelotti if he uses 2-striker formation.

Count Ronaldinho as a striker IMO because Kaka + Ronaldinho + 2 strikers will never happen. It'll be Kaka, Dinho + 1 more. That one will be chosen from Pato, Borriello and Pippo. If Dinho is a 100% 24/7 starter that is.

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

Isn't that crazy!!!

I think Boriello coming to Milan is worse than R10 coming. Boriello wants to be the starter and most likely won't be and if he is, I hope he can duplicate last seasons efforts.

Why crazy? What are your reasons? It seems, Gila's face comes to your mind every minute

Compare thier height/weight :

Boriello : Ht/Wt 1.80m/73kg
Gila : Ht/Wt 1.84m/76kg

Many goals from Gila are from heading. I dont know about Boriello.

Originally Posted by Mystik

That's why I believe we should go for someone that's less of a superstar and won't throw a fit during rotation. Maybe Huntelaar...or Benzema if Lyon want to sell for a reasonable price.

I also like the idea of Huntelaar at Milan. It's quite a surprise for me that it is so quiet around him concerning transfers. He allready said that he only will leave Ajax if a really big team wants him.
Altough it has to be seen how he will perform at a big club in a big competition. We will know more after the Euros, certainly the game Netherlands - Italy will be interesting therefore.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Why crazy? What are your reasons? It seems, Gila's face comes to your mind every minute

Compare thier height/weight :

Boriello : Ht/Wt 1.80m/73kg
Gila : Ht/Wt 1.84m/76kg

Many goals from Gila are from heading. I dont know about Boriello.

Borriello is 1.85m tall, taller than Gila.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Anyway, the only fact with which all of us will agree is the following: Pato and Torres are/will be the next 2 best strikers in world for the 7-8 years ... (I would add Benzema, G.Rossi and Aguero).

Is G.Rossi so good as to rank aside those the others in your list? Even though i have been hearing very good things about him but haven't really seen how he play. I agree with the rest but it really depend on their further developement.

Originally Posted by vivardo

Borriello is 1.85m tall, taller than Gila.

Your source pls? My source is channel4.

Edit :

From Genoa official website :

Nato il: 18/06/1982
Nato a: Napoli
Nazionalità: ITA
Altezza: 180cm
Peso: 73kg

Galliani: "In attack we have brought Marco Borriello back. He scored more goals than Juventus' new signing Amauri this season." (Ch.4)

Um, well, yeah...just not with us, though.

Jesus, the man's arrogance is unbelievable. I think I'll put rotten eggs in his mailbox if I'm ever anywhere near his house.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Is the grape is really ripe? Lloris is still far from ripe I think

I am not against his transfer as he is cheap and looks having talent. But I won't regret if he didnt come as he is still only 'the next Buffon', 'the next WC GK' etc as labelled to Gourcuff 'the next Zidane'. If we lost fighting a player like Drogba, Ronaldinho, etc to other big clubs, then I won't be happy as these players are truely ripe.

Spot on again.

Who the hell care about Amauri + Lloris? They haven't even show that they are the real deals yet. They are better players out there.

The one player that we must get is zambrotta, he is world class and he is available. If somebody snatched him from under our nose then that would really piss me off. The rest we can wait and watch how the drama unfold.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Sorry, for me he was not worth for that mount of money. It would be so risky for Milan to buy a striker who couldn't proved that he was really talented as media talked about. It's already years (4?, 5? or 6? years he had been in Atletico) but he didnt showed big improvement in his performance with Atletico.

So, what Liverpool paid for Torres was overpriced IMO (of course in that time). That Torres has been doing well with Liverpool is another case.

That's exactly my point, how long more does Torres need to show his class in La Liga. He has been a talent like for 5 years without actually moving on to the next step and is likely to bomb like our Gilardino. That's why many clubs kept an eye on him but nobody is willing to pay big money for him.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Your source pls? My source is channel4.

Edit :

From Genoa official website :

Nato il: 18/06/1982
Nato a: Napoli
Nazionalità: ITA
Altezza: 180cm
Peso: 73kg

My source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Borriello
Anyway, he does appear taller than Gila on screen. I hope he does well with Milan though I'd prefer someone like Gomez. To me, Mercato has been satisfactory so far!

Originally Posted by Siregar

What kind of performance do you mean that more than justified his cost?

Here is his statistcs (some years with Atletico and a year with Pool):

----League -----Season--------Club-----Position--Games--Goals
Primera División 2003/2004 Atletico Madrid Angriff 35 19
Primera División 2004/2005 Atletico Madrid Angriff 38 16
Primera División 2005/2006 Atletico Madrid Angriff 36 13
Primera División 2006/2007 Atletico Madrid Angriff 36 14
ENG :Premier League 2007/2008 FC Liverpool Angriff 33 24

You can see how he'd done in Spain. In his young age (around 17 yo), he looks so promising but his 'promising' was not improving. The older he was, the lower his goals. Well, Gila was even better when he was in Parma (with regard to his price compare to his performance when Milan took him).

I think you have a point in that he didn't really improve his goal scoring record in Atletico Madrid, which could be troublesome. But you also have to look at it this way. Sure, he didn't become a top scorer in the league, but he was still very consistent. How many players score over 13 goals 4 years in a row? Certainly not Gilardino. Besides his scoring record, you also have to see how he has matured over the years in Spain. He has become a much better player skillwise and the fact that he didn't score more could be attributed to several different factors such as the level of play of the rest of his team.

Besides, I wasn't talking about his time in Atletico Madrid justifying his price. As I said, I also thought his price was a little high when he transfered too. But his performance in Liverpool justified his price. He had an impressive scoring record and he provided them with a reliable attacking options up front, something they have been missing since Owen left. 30 million euros sounds like a lot of money, but when you can get someone who can completely transform your attack, it is well worth it. After all, we spent 40 million to replace Shevchenko (Gilardino and Oliveira) and now we still have to spend more to get the job done.

Originally Posted by vivardo

My source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Borriello
Anyway, he does appear taller than Gila on screen. I hope he does well with Milan though I'd prefer someone like Gomez. To me, Mercato has been satisfactory so far!

I also prefer Gomez than Boriello. Gomez, Pato, Ronaldinho and Inzaghi look great.