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Old 03-06-2008, 17:00   #3886

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To be clear on Benzema, noone will pay 60 mln and he will go for 35-40MAX as did Essien or Diarra.
Ok, so now, explain me something because you're very sure about you: why Aulas (owner of Lyon) would let Benzema leaving at 35-40M € ?!

Each time he said a price, he never let the player leaving at less than this price.

He doesn't want to sell Benzema, so he said that clubs would have to pay at least 60M € (even added that this price was going to increase with Benzema's performances each year) and Lyon doesn't need money, they have ... so now, explain me, why Aulas would let him go for 35-40M € ?!

Think about that and let me know because I'm really curious about your reasonment there ...

All is not up to us and all is not so easy, like it has been said so many times, it's not FM08 or PES08, you don't get players to their true value, you have to pay more than their real value. And when a club has a very good and young player, when this same club doesn't need money, when this club also wants to win trophies, and so when this club doesn't want to sell his young and talented player, why this club would sell him at his real value ?
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Old 03-06-2008, 17:03   #3887

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Mr Payne...I would appreciate a link when nex u r goin to watch a match durin di work day...mi sen yuh a priv messge wid mi contaks..so mi a beg yuh use it star...if mi did kno seh France a play, mi would a tek een di match...mi hav all di streamin program dem..so if mi did kno dat...mi woulda watch is Iyah.

Yuh goin stadium tonite?

no no, i will be @ da other match next sunday.
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Old 03-06-2008, 17:10   #3888

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I didn't watch that match entirely, Colombia isn't a very good team actually: they play well but make a lot of mistakes with simple passes (whereas they are able to do some amazing passes lol) and this Falcao is good but wasn't very dangerous actually from what I saw ...
colombia had a few good chances, but never had anyone to finish, but they had some really good runs.
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Old 03-06-2008, 17:13   #3889

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@mrki: Excellent! I think you are now on the same page with many of us. LIke you said "we still need GK, one more fullback and Ronaldinho+forward. I will not be satisfied untill I see a real squad, as this squad still lacks 4 good players min for a long and tough season".

The only part that I disagree with, and will continue to disaree, is that "with Marek, Oddo, Nesta, Seedorf, Pippo, Ambro, Rino, Pirlo being all 30 or over 30." we are still going to do great.

You have players like 2x like Gourcuff but never really impressed; and we do have players who are not above 30 and playing at top levels.

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He also spoke of how difficult last season had been for him, due to the injury. He said: “Following the unpleasant season when I was out for a long time with the knee injury, I'd like to prove that I'm finally well.”

Now he has regained fitness Jankulovski spoke of how he was happy at Milan and keen to see out his career at the club.

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Old 03-06-2008, 17:15   #3890

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Ok, so now, explain me something because you're very sure about you: why Aulas (owner of Lyon) would let Benzema leaving at 35-40M € ?!

Each time he said a price, he never let the player leaving at less than this price.

He doesn't want to sell Benzema, so he said that clubs would have to pay at least 60M € (even added that this price was going to increase with Benzema's performances each year) and Lyon doesn't need money, they have ... so now, explain me, why Aulas would let him go for 35-40M € ?!

Think about that and let me know because I'm really curious about your reasonment there ...

All is not up to us and all is not so easy, like it has been said so many times, it's not FM08 or PES08, you don't get players to their true value, you have to pay more than their real value. And when a club has a very good and young player, when this same club doesn't need money, when this club also wants to win trophies, and so when this club doesn't want to sell his young and talented player, why this club would sell him at his real value ?
actually in FM08, i dont really get any player at the actual value, i usually have to pay higher and some times alot higher, as i payed 76mil for Alves who was valued at 26mil.

i also offered a 60mil bid for benzema and a 50mil bid for ben arfa both were valued at 19mil, and both bids were rejected.

same for bodmer he was worth 15 mil spent 32, and spent 42.5 mil on Joao who was worth somewhere around 15mil.
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Old 03-06-2008, 17:19   #3891

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actually in FM08, i dont really get any player at the actual value, i usually have to pay higher and some times alot higher, as i payed 76mil for Alves who was valued at 26mil.

i also offered a 60mil bid for benzema and a 50mil bid for ben arfa both were valued at 19mil, and both bids were rejected.

same for bodmer he was worth 15 mil spent 32, and spent 42.5 mil on Joao who was worth somewhere around 15mil.
It's not about this topic but your problem is probably that you wanted them too early ?? I generally wait the end of their contract or 2 years before to buy them, before that, you have to pay ridiculous sums like you had to do lol (in one game, I had Bodmer for 18M) !!
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i wonder if now sammarco is gone were gona go for Dessena and Cigarini? would make sence to get both. Literally we could have 2 sets of midfield

Ambro- pirlo- Gattuso
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FM? It's a game....
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Old 03-06-2008, 17:26   #3894

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FM? It's a game....
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Just understood, yeah it's a game lol, I was just replying payne who said he got players for amazing amounts of money lol ...

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Old 03-06-2008, 18:12   #3895

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BOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIING
Argh, if I tell on this forum he won't be sold at less than 60M € (can sound ridiculous, but it is Aulas !! Aulas is simply a firm manager, and he knows how to make money with Lyon !!) for the 150th time, will you say again in 10 posts that we could take Benzema for 30M € but that we don't want to spend that ?!

Pfiou ... it has to go in mind that Aulas won't let his player going for 30M € !!

--- EDIT ---
People here don't understand: I don't say that Benzema is a 60M € boy because of his level but simply because of Aulas and what he said !!
What Aulas said is similar to the release clause which is used in Spain. This kind of thing doesnt represent the actual price of a player, it's just only a barrier for other clubs who want to buy the player.

So, If Benzema is availabe (for transfer) then his price is much lower than what Aulas said.
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Old 03-06-2008, 18:26   #3896

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What Aulas said is similar to the release clause which is used in Spain. This kind of thing doesnt represent the actual price of a player, it's just only a barrier for other clubs who want to buy the player.

So, If Benzema is availabe (for transfer) then his price is much lower than what Aulas said.
Yes, he's not available, it's just a price that Aulas gave, it's a limit, after that price, Aulas will negociate, but less than that, he won't negociate.

And if he said that price, he won't decrease it, I'm pretty sure about that, or it would be the first time he would do so ...

Anyway, Barcelona or Chelsea or even MU are able to pay that for Benzema, quite stupid, but if you want to get the player ...
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Yes, he's not available, it's just a price that Aulas gave, it's a limit, after that price, Aulas will negociate, but less than that, he won't negociate.

And if he said that price, he won't decrease it, I'm pretty sure about that, or it would be the first time he would do so ...

Anyway, Barcelona or Chelsea or even MU are able to pay that for Benzema, quite stupid, but if you want to get the player ...
No clubs in this earth will buy young-talented-unexperienced player for 60 mil euros. We have seen many transfers (young talented players or super world class player). Only Zidane's price can match Benzema's one.

If there is club this summer making a bid for 40 mil euros, Aulas will accept that, no doubt.

A bid of 30 to 35 mil euros will be accepted by Lyon IMO.
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Ok I saw this article on tutto mercato and to be honest I am a little just shocked. Not at what has occured with the other team going bankrupt but with the actual possibility that AC could get into the Champions league. I will admit that my knowledge on such things is very very little. So I am asking if anyone on here would know more about how such things work.

I would also think that this could have a huge impact on us in the transfer market. You can also reply to that.

Here is the web address
http://tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=107064

Tell me what you all think and maybe some one else has better knowledge on such events and how something like this usually plays out.
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Old 03-06-2008, 19:13   #3899

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have you seen the rumour,
Villa Available For £17m

now that imo, is none sense, valencia couldnt be stupid enough to let him for for that little, but if they were to, would he fit the italian game.
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Old 03-06-2008, 19:17   #3900

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Ok I saw this article on tutto mercato and to be honest I am a little just shocked. Not at what has occured with the other team going bankrupt but with the actual possibility that AC could get into the Champions league. I will admit that my knowledge on such things is very very little. So I am asking if anyone on here would know more about how such things work.

I would also think that this could have a huge impact on us in the transfer market. You can also reply to that.

Here is the web address
http://tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=107064

Tell me what you all think and maybe some one else has better knowledge on such events and how something like this usually plays out.

i read it, im not sure how it works, but that would be great IMO, if we were to get back into champions league, however i was sorta looking forward to winning the euro cup, but i would more than welcome a chance to get back into the champions league.
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