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Old 05-06-2008, 12:37   #4006

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Can't say much about Gomez as I haven't seen him play, Drogba would be an ideal striker but tell me honestly do you think he will join Milan when he has the chance to join Inter who has Mourinho? The reason he came to Chelski and the reason he wanted to leave was when JoMo left. Not only that but look at the guys age, all he could give Milan is 2 maybe 3 years max. I'm not saying Ade is a better player than Drogba because Drog would murder him but for long term I think Ade would be the better solution as he's only 24 and could offer a bit more. I doubt the transfer would be that high though, most likely between 10-15 million.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:38   #4007

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Galliani: We rule the market ---> This is bullshlt!

Boriello? Abbiati? He is not ashamed to include them?

Yeah, we got Flamini BUT he is FREE. Ok, we have Zambrotta.

So one Zambro and free Flamini rule market? lol

I expect him to say that we'll get Marzoratti, Coppola, Pozzi, DiGennaro, and all Milan loaned players and again tell media : We rule the market not only in Italy but also in the world!!!

He is an idiot!
Boriello will never score 19 goals with Milan, and then what he will say?
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:56   #4008

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O.L. chairman Jean-Michel Aulas has declared: "If Arsenal are offering 16 million Euros for Samir Nasri, I think that Ben Harfa's price is between 15 and 20 million Euros". The young striker is tracked by O.M. and PSG
Ben Arfa is 15-20 mil, but benzema is 60
where is the logic, ben arfa is very good, young, talent, and has alot of potential to get better, only problem with hem, is that he plays best at winger, and Milan doent use wingers.



On the Vargas move, it seem everyday he is closer to signing with Viola, but nothing ever happens, we need to do something quick, before one morning we wake up, and he is officially a viola player.
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Old 05-06-2008, 13:18   #4009

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All in all we need to ensure that our singings are not more than the mid twenties in age if this is to be the begining of a new cycle...or is it a one year cylce? We dont have the money to sign young expensive players who are world class?
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Old 05-06-2008, 13:38   #4010

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lots of rumors today...mainly the adebayor one..i dont think there can be anyway the price is 40mil..plus dont the clubs have to agree on terms FIRST than the club can talk to the player...we might be intersted in him but i dont think anything concrete...ive watched alot of Mario gomez this season and past season..he would be perfect for us..he is actually fast for a big man and would compliment our current strikers very well
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Old 05-06-2008, 13:44   #4011

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I'm talking about NEXT season. Ronaldinho hardly played at all.

It's so interesting one bad season and people are writing him off. One good, not even great, but good season, Boriello is the second coming. Gila had 3 sub par seasons here, and people still defended him for most of his time here.

Don't get me wrong I like Vargas, but there is always room for a player like Ronaldinho. R10, can do for us what Kaka does...take over and win a game that we have no business winning.

People who say R10 is done, should never be asking for a Sheva to return. After 2 horrible seasons what gives you the idea he'll return to form? And he's older than R10, so is Seedorf.

A 50% R10 would clean the floor with Seedorf. I'm not gonna stick up Seedorf just because he's in our colors.

R10 would bring a serious offensive punch to our team. Seedorf is old and doesn't help cover the LB. So many times I saw him visibly tired and unable to keep up with the run of play, forget about helping in the LB.

He's a legend in our minds because of his CL exploits...last season he wasn't good and I can't see him getting better or being able to fulfill the role he has been for the past few years in an adequate manner.
Ronaldinho has 2 horrible seasons at least where he has been on the bench more often than he play. And the season before that was not that fanastic. So its 3 seasons of underperforming and hey suddenly, he is going to tear down all defences? Please don't make me laugh, his form is not even better Gilardino to say the least and Gila get bashed but not Ronaldinho?
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Old 05-06-2008, 13:50   #4012

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Ben Arfa is 15-20 mil, but benzema is 60
where is the logic, ben arfa is very good, young, talent, and has alot of potential to get better, only problem with hem, is that he plays best at winger, and Milan doent use wingers.
Both have it all ... but there is a huge difference (so huge that they don't like each other): mentality.

When one always complain when he's not a starter (Ben Arfa), the other doesn't say anything when his coach puts him as a winger whereas he's a lot better like a striker (Benzema).
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Old 05-06-2008, 13:51   #4013

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Ronaldinho has 2 horrible seasons at least where he has been on the bench more often than he play. And the season before that was not that fanastic. So its 3 seasons of underperforming and hey suddenly, he is going to tear down all defences? Please don't make me laugh, his form is not even better Gilardino to say the least and Gila get bashed but not Ronaldinho?

He scored 21 goals last season how is that horrible? Even this season he scored 8 goals in 17 matches
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Galliani: We rule the market ---> This is bullshlt!

Boriello? Abbiati? He is not ashamed to include them?

Yeah, we got Flamini BUT he is FREE. Ok, we have Zambrotta.

So one Zambro and free Flamini rule market? lol

I expect him to say that we'll get Marzoratti, Coppola, Pozzi, DiGennaro, and all Milan loaned players and again tell media : We rule the market not only in Italy but also in the world!!!
Galliani said that so far Milan made the best mercato from the Italian teams.
And I think that he is right.

I cannot understand your point by saying (BUT he is FREE).
If Milan can sign such a good player who was chased by several big clubs for free, means that the MAN knows his job very well.
Keep in mind that very expensive players are not a guarantee to success. (Lentini)

While our best players were bought free or very cheap. ( Examples: Van Basten, Pirlo, Kaka)
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Old 05-06-2008, 14:08   #4015

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Ronaldinho has 2 horrible seasons at least where he has been on the bench more often than he play. And the season before that was not that fanastic. So its 3 seasons of underperforming and hey suddenly, he is going to tear down all defences? Please don't make me laugh, his form is not even better Gilardino to say the least and Gila get bashed but not Ronaldinho?
So here's Ronadinho's 3 seasons of "underperforming":

2005-06
League: 29/17 (matches/goals)
Europe: 12/7

2006-07
League: 35/21
Europe: 8/2

2007-08
League: 17/8
Europe: 8/1

Imagine what he can do when he's not underperforming...
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Old 05-06-2008, 14:18   #4016

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interesting indeed, you were just saying that Seedorf will suck cuz he was bad this season

and @Gila case, I was one of his "supporters", but i didnt support his performances, I only disagreed with people who said he's the reason behind our failure (dont get me wrong, I have nothing against you :P)
I think we've squeezed Seedorf the best out of Seedorf, he's starting to show his show his age, and I don't expect him to get any better. He'll struggle and have to work extra hard just to maintain his form.

And Seedorf's skills will continue to diminish given his age. If he had a Del Piero type year maybe I'd have a different opinion. But Seedorf has signifcantly dipped in performance, Del Piero hasn't.

Having said that, Del Piero is definately the exception to the rule (as with only a tiny minority of elite athletes) and by no means is it the rule. How many other players who play the same position and are his age had a similar years to him? All the other players you mentioned are defender that can play positionally to effectively do their job unlike an attacking player.

I'll stick to my point on this one, as you haven't convinced me otherwise, (as others have regarding other points) Seedorf in a line-up over Ronaldinho...only makes sense in the mind of certain Milan Fans.

No unbiased person would choose Seedorf over R10 for their team unless they haven't been watching football for the past 5 years.

Now when it comes to how much $$$ to spend to get him...that's a debate I'm willing to have.
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Ronaldinho has 2 horrible seasons at least where he has been on the bench more often than he play. And the season before that was not that fanastic. So its 3 seasons of underperforming and hey suddenly, he is going to tear down all defences? Please don't make me laugh, his form is not even better Gilardino to say the least and Gila get bashed but not Ronaldinho?
Wuhahahahaha...tell me you're joking......Wuhahahahaha...stop it you're klling me. I give up. Oh man...you're good at making jokes, we need to go out for some beers when I need a good laugh.

To the rest - Thanks for putting up the stats.

But don't touch our world class player Seedorf...amazing!!!

Wait...and you mentioned, and compared Gila's form with Ronaldinho's over the past three years. You're probably the best comedian in this forum. I need to hear from you more often.

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Old 05-06-2008, 14:55   #4018

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about the power forward,
I never heard here about a couple of russian strikers.


I saw Lithuania Russia on Eurosport tonight


I jumped from the sofa watching the 2nd russian goal,
a superb voleé with the left foot,
just after a difficult control in rotation with the chest.

The name of the scorer is Roman Pavlyuchenko

Spartak Mosca
Height: 1.88 m.
Weight: 78.00 kg.
Date of birth: 15/12/1981









.... and why not Pavel Pogrebnyak, Zenith,
top scorer in Uefa Cup , this season?


Height 188 cm
Weight 91 kg
Date of birth: 08.11.1983

On contract till 31.12.2009


Pavlyuchenko is the substitute of Pogrebnyak in the national team.


I would give a look.
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Old 05-06-2008, 14:59   #4019

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Ronaldinho has 2 horrible seasons at least where he has been on the bench more often than he play. And the season before that was not that fanastic. So its 3 seasons of underperforming and hey suddenly, he is going to tear down all defences? Please don't make me laugh, his form is not even better Gilardino to say the least and Gila get bashed but not Ronaldinho?

WRONG. Maybe performance wise he wasn't exactly doing all the tricks and flashy movements but this year is the only year where he was really struggling and that is because he had a few niggling injuries and there was Eto'o, Henry, Messi in the same squad. Last year he wasn't fantastic you say and yet he scored 21 goals. The year before he brought the Champions League to Barcelona, he was their star man. He was the top scorer in the CL and he won the Fifa world player of the year and the Golden Ball.

What the hell are you talking about? I cant believe you even compared Ronaldinho to Gila.


About Galliani saying we are the best in the market so far, yes maybe..but thats like being proud of being first place after the first lap when there's 59 laps remaining. He really should shut his mouth and just focus on his job. After two markets of failure, we expect nothing less than an excellent one.

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Old 05-06-2008, 15:11   #4020

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ROFL People don't talk about Ronaldinho underperforming and in the same breath say that Seedorf had a good season. If Seedorf played 35 games then 5 were great 10 were decent and the rest horrible. Definitely not someone we can depend on. You can tell because if Seedorf were doing his job properly then Kaka wouldn't have to constantly come back into our half to get the ball. I'd prefer we don't get Dinho and use the money to get that world class striker, switch back to 4-3-1-2 with Kaka where he's supposed to be and own everyone again

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I dont know why many are against the Ronaldinho move, I think he will work wonders here. I'm all for Dinho at any price below 25m euro. Adebayor? I wouldn't sign him if he was for 10m to be honest, he is not what we need. If we are looking for a tall strong striker, then Drogba is 10 times better than Adebayor. Gomez, I dont know, I think its too soon to judge him just like Benzema and Huntelaar.

My favourites for the striker role would be: Sheva, Adriano, Balotelli, Aguero. I'm not convinced that the other strikers who will come here will be a guaranteed success.
Hitmannq8 I don't think you can compare Huntelaar with Benzema. Benzema pretty much just broke on the scene whereas Huntelaar has been consistently performing for a few seasons now. Ajax is missing the CL I think we should try to get Huntelaar. As long we get another fullback and a creative midfielder then Huntelaar is guaranteed to score.

P.S. I thought you were talking bout guarantees...why mention Sheva, Balotelli and ADRIANO???? :s Aguero is class though.
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