Euro 2008 (include all discussions)

Toni spoils a wonderful pass from Cassano. The seals it for the dutch.

Game set match...3-0 Holland. That starting lineup needs some real tweaking. First off Materazzi out. Secondly De Rossi MUST play. Thirdly Camo out and either Cassano or Del Piero in.

Next match for me: Buffon; Zambrotta, Barzagli, Panucci, Grosso; Ambrosini, Pirlo, De Rossi; Del Piero, Di Natale; Toni

That first goal is lethal. The ref has to take the total blame.

actually, there IS that rule you are talking about, Koeke

Originally Posted by Jeff

That first goal is lethal. The ref has to take the total blame.

Yeah it can cause a total misbalance in the team. Not to reduce any of them blame here... the players clearly were not up to task.

Are our chances blown to go to the next round?

No if you win Crotia and France. Very difficult now but who knows.

Gosh... the first goal is just... OMG...

Originally Posted by Jeff

No if you win Crotia and France. Very difficult now but who knows.

Gosh... the first goal is just... OMG...

Eh. Well anyways... I guess I'll talk about any upcoming transfers then. Croatia... don't you mean Romania? France... um... I don't think so. If we play as bad as we did today, won't be happening.

A deserved win for Netherland. I am impressed with MVB's team played. Credit to Basten!

Originally Posted by Siregar

A deserved win for Netherland. I am impressed with MVB's team played. Credit to Basten!

Most definitely, but Italy's game plan was uncompletely undone by the first goal. It wasn't like a bad defending or anything like that that leads to the goal.

It's bad refereeing. And the psychological damage is absolutely overwhelming. Italy was lost, completely lost. That's not their game plan for the whole game.

But Italyhas their own worry now. Forget about the first goal. It's over now.

First Crotia, then France. One at a time.

Romania not Croatia

Originally Posted by Stitch

actually, there IS that rule you are talking about, Koeke

really? I didn't know it was a new rule I always thought this was the case. I think it's pretty dam logic aswel. Ah well Italy always begins bad two wins and they can still qualify

I agree credit where its due.
Toni is not getting decent service, Camo pretty invisible, Pirlo did a lot of work winning balls and distributing in Italy's own half but thats not enough in my opinion.

With all the talk about goal line technology and stuff like that someone really needs to invent something to take linesmen out of the job of determining offsides.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Most definitely, but Italy's game plan was uncompletely undone by the first goal. It wasn't like a bad defending or anything like that that leads to the goal.

It's bad refereeing. And the psychological damage is absolutely overwhelming. Italy was lost, completely lost. That's not their game plan for the whole game.

But Italyhas their own worry now. Forget about the first goal. It's over now.

First Crotia, then France. One at a time.

Might as well try. But we haven't beaten France since like 1978. Could we break it? I don't know. Not if Donadoni does the same line-up. Bad refereeing screwed us over in 2002 and now it happened again. Doesn't surprise me.

Rezag... yeah that would be nice. If someone would fix this problem... I'm so disgusted right now. I must recognize that Netherlands played well, but nonetheless Italy would not have been undone like that.

Holland proved to be a BIG team!

they totally out-classed Italy, although there were mistakes in the line-up and from the ref too

Originally Posted by Koeke

really? I didn't know it was a new rule I always thought this was the case. I think it's pretty dam logic aswel. Ah well Italy always begins bad two wins and they can still qualify

If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place
an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to
continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the fi eld
of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of
play.
It is not an offence in itself for a player who is in an offside position to
step off the fi eld of play to show the referee that he is not involved in
active play. However, if the referee considers that he has left the fi eld
of play for tactical reasons and has gained an unfair advantage by reentering
the fi eld of play, the player shall be cautioned for unsporting
behaviour. The player needs to ask for the referee’s permission to reenter
the fi eld of play.