Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by t.gianni

Sneijder to Milan chronicles have been going on for 2 years and I realize we did miss on a fantastic player. He could have been the perfect Seedorf substitute.

Grudgingly I'll agree with you. I have nothing against Holland players even after that. I appreciate Seedorf even if he did not play in that game... there are no hard feelings here. I think Sneijder would be great at Milan.

although i am depressed for this hude loss ...
1) i understand that italy will finally qualify(i hope)
2) pirlo was great over the midfield , clever passes , almost a goal
3) gattusso ran a lot and supported the attacks technically , almost 2 assists
4) zammrotta was very good in attack on both sides although his philosophical complex theories of clearing the ball must stop
5) ambro was bad indeed many misspases and too many fouls de rossi should have played!!!!

I've checked the international tournaments forum in MM, there is no a thread that discuss about the euro generally. there are spesific thread to discuss special topic like 'Euro 2008!! Whom Do You Support?', 'Italy at the European Championship 2008'. Maybe a new thread to discuss all games in Euro 2008 shoulde be opened.

Originally Posted by Siregar

I've checked the international tournaments forum in MM, there is no a thread that discuss about the euro generally. there are spesific thread to discuss special topic like 'Euro 2008!! Whom Do You Support?', 'Italy at the European Championship 2008'. Maybe a new thread to discuss all games in Euro 2008 shoulde be opened.

I've started a general thread to talk about the games, knock yourselfs out
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25621
Although I do think the thread about Italy can coexist since most of us are Azzurri fans. Let's hope that site stays active till the end

Van de Vaart would be a great addition to our squad.

I've been wanting Grosso to Milan since World Cup '96

I still want Luca Toni. Maybe he wants to return to Italy, I don't think that ship has sailed...

I'm happy with Flamini and Zambrotta signings, these are two good players that will fit very well with our current system.

Originally Posted by hishamilan

although i am depressed for this hude loss ...
1) i understand that italy will finally qualify(i hope)
2) pirlo was great over the midfield , clever passes , almost a goal
3) gattusso ran a lot and supported the attacks technically , almost 2 assists
4) zammrotta was very good in attack on both sides although his philosophical complex theories of clearing the ball must stop
5) ambro was bad indeed many misspases and too many fouls de rossi should have played!!!!

We didn't watch the same match I think ... it was horrible to watch Pirlo, Gattuso and Ambrosini playing like they did !!

Pirlo missed everything except a free-kick and our two defensive midfielders defended so well that the final score is 0-3 ...

They played like they did almost 90% of this season with us !!

I disagree. I think our Milan trio actally did fine defensively. Pirlo did not miss everything; in fact he wasn't responsible for mos of the misses if I remembered correctly. Gattuso did well in the second, while Ambrosini just ran everywhere and kept defending.

It's the attack tha didn't go well today.

Dru: Cassava piece is a ghetto in Kgn...not a streetname for a weapon...so yet again, u got it wrong...but u r quite used to that I imagine.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I disagree. I think our Milan trio actally did fine defensively. Pirlo did not miss everything; in fact he wasn't responsible for mos of the misses if I remembered correctly. Gattuso did well in the second, while Ambrosini just ran everywhere and kept defending.

It's the attack tha didn't go well today.

I know I exagerate when I say he did miss everything, but he missed too much ... and Gattuso-Ambrosini didn't work that well today, even if it's also true that both attack and defense (more than attack, this defense worries me a lot) were poor, so they couldn't do more ...

What did he miss? He didn't miss many balls you know? and none of his misses is crucial. What are you talking about? If you are only talking about long-pass that misses that he is not the only one missing.

Originally Posted by Jeff

What did he miss? He didn't miss many balls you know? and none of his misses is crucial. What are you talking about? If you are only talking about long-pass that misses that he is not the only one missing.

He wasn't the only one, of course, they all missed their passes (long or short anyway) ... but it's Pirlo !! I expect a lot from him, as an Italy fan, and also as a Milan fan. And the fact I am a Milan fan probably pushes me to expect even more from him when he plays for the Italian national team !!

I'm so happy when our guys shine with Italy ... but now, it's all up to them to shine by beating both Roumania and France !!

Originally Posted by Jeff

I disagree. I think our Milan trio actally did fine defensively.

I disagree with this. I think Ambrosini and Gattuso were the ones most responsible for the bad display. All they had to do was to defend the midfield and allow Pirlo the freedom to create. They only had to defend and they didn't. We blame the centre backs but it was very difficult for Barzagli and Materazzi (who were awful nevertheless) to defend when guys like Van Bronchorst are cruising through the midfield as they please.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I disagree with this. I think Ambrosini and Gattuso were the ones most responsible for the bad display. All they had to do was to defend the midfield and allow Pirlo the freedom to create. They only had to defend and they didn't. We blame the centre backs but it was very difficult for Barzagli and Materazzi (who were awful nevertheless) to defend when guys like Van Bronchorst are cruising through the midfield as they please.

Actually, only Buffon, almost Pirlo and Toni were in an average form, not a good form, not so bad, just average ... maybe Grosso (20 minutes)/Di Natale/Del Piero (10-15 minutes) too.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I disagree with this. I think Ambrosini and Gattuso were the ones most responsible for the bad display. All they had to do was to defend the midfield and allow Pirlo the freedom to create. They only had to defend and they didn't. We blame the centre backs but it was very difficult for Barzagli and Materazzi (who were awful nevertheless) to defend when guys like Van Bronchorst are cruising through the midfield as they please.

In a way they (Ambro and Rino) did play badly but there was no one upfront to hold on to the ball. Ambro and Rino were constantly battered by the dutch players. Di Natale and Camoranesi should have had come back to take the ball. You cannot just keep defending the whole game when the forwards are doing nothing. Today's defeat was more to do with the lack of creativity upfront.