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Old 10-06-2008, 14:05   #4531

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seedorf playing less minutes/games would mean him playing at a higher level... which is ALWAYS a positive. I love dinho, i just dont know if he'll regain form. if he did though... him kaka pato would make everyone cringe.
The problem is that Ronaldinho and Kaka almost never play well together... we just have to look at the various national team games they have played. Or the last world cup. And I don't think Ronaldinho will ever gain his old form back...
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Giancarlo - are you GALLIANI? You sound exactly like him! Trip to JKapan was a reason we were tired...hahahahaha...lets not joke.
I hate that excuse. It's like going outside with no winter coat when you know there is a blizzard outside and then when you get pneumonia, you blame it on the weather.

It's called poor preparation!

If we know we have extra games you prepare for them.
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No I'm not him. But I think people are making things worse than they really are. We're not in big trouble. We are making the right buys, getting the right players... just need another striker or two...

And some people want Galliani to resign? For what? He's doing the right things bringing in useful players...

I'm warming to the idea of Drogba or Berbatov. If I'm indeed Galliani or Berlusconi I'll try my best lol. Berbatov though plays for Tottenham... this is not exactly a top class club...

As far as Ronaldinho... we can forget that one already... he's most likely going to Man City...

he is CHEAP. he has not bought good players... boriello sucks. Zambrotta is good but old (temproary fix), antonini?!? cmon we're milan not empoli. Flamini was free..... I mean i dont expect us to spend like chelsea or even inter, but cmon man.

We are outspent by midtable squads. Clearly our team is flawed. They coudlnt reach 4th. much less challenge at all for league. Boriello, Zambro and Flamini will not fix that. This isnt a 1 year thing. Last year we barely made 4th. Largely because of ronaldo. Its sad
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seedorf playing less minutes/games would mean him playing at a higher level... which is ALWAYS a positive. I love dinho, i just dont know if he'll regain form. if he did though... him kaka pato would make everyone cringe.
Like I think you said before, if the price is right...it's worth the risk to find out.
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I hate that excuse. It's like going outside with no winter coat when you know there is a blizzard outside and then when you get pneumonia, you blame it on the weather.

It's called poor preparation!

If we know we have extra games you prepare for them.
Yes you prepare for them by having a deeper squad you can rotate... That's what Milan is doing right now... increasing their depth and squad. Emerson and Brocchi simply don't cut it.
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No I'm not him. But I think people are making things worse than they really are. We're not in big trouble. We are making the right buys, getting the right players... just need another striker or two...

And some people want Galliani to resign? For what? He's doing the right things bringing in useful players...

I'm warming to the idea of Drogba or Berbatov. If I'm indeed Galliani or Berlusconi I'll try my best lol. Berbatov though plays for Tottenham... this is not exactly a top class club...

As far as Ronaldinho... we can forget that one already... he's most likely going to Man City...
At what point does it become big trouble? Or what is big trouble to you?

We're not in CL and finished 5th in the league...for a team of Milan's stature and with Milan's history, that IS BIG trouble.
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he is CHEAP. he has not bought good players... boriello sucks. Zambrotta is good but old (temproary fix), antonini?!? cmon we're milan not empoli. Flamini was free..... I mean i dont expect us to spend like chelsea or even inter, but cmon man.

We are outspent by midtable squads. Clearly our team is flawed. They coudlnt reach 4th. much less challenge at all for league. Boriello, Zambro and Flamini will not fix that. This isnt a 1 year thing. Last year we barely made 4th. Largely because of ronaldo. Its sad
Borriello does not suck. Zambrotta is a great player, and I think he has a good 4 or 5 years left in him. Antonini is a pretty good player that can be a good substitute. Hey you know Gattuso came from a team called Salernitana I believe...

Our team is NOT flawed, and we were not outspent. Look at Juve or Inter... they haven't even started buying players. Well Juve has bought what? Like three players? Mellberg? LOL. Borriello, Zambrotta and Flamini will fix it as far as I'm concerned, though buying is not done.

If you think we buy poor players, you're wrong.

Just look at Juve buys... Sissoko...
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he is CHEAP. he has not bought good players... boriello sucks. Zambrotta is good but old (temproary fix), antonini?!? cmon we're milan not empoli. Flamini was free..... I mean i dont expect us to spend like chelsea or even inter, but cmon man.

We are outspent by midtable squads. Clearly our team is flawed. They coudlnt reach 4th. much less challenge at all for league. Boriello, Zambro and Flamini will not fix that. This isnt a 1 year thing. Last year we barely made 4th. Largely because of ronaldo. Its sad
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At what point does it become big trouble? Or what is big trouble to you?

We're not in CL and finished 5th in the league...for a team of Milan's stature and with Milan's history, that IS BIG trouble.
Wow some people in here are really unbelievable.

Don't you remember a few years ago we had to play in the UEFA Cup... Bayern had to play in the UEFA Cup this year (which they didn't even win) but they did well domestically...

Who is to say next season we won't be able to contest the Scudetto?

You people need to stop crying when your team doesn't acquire the players YOU WANT, and DO WHAT YOU WANT. What makes you think you're so much smarter than Milan's management?
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And then some of you have the audacity to suggest a badly out of form Ronaldinho, and a striker (Berbatov) that doesn't fit your definition of world class.

Please. Stop with this nonsense.
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Yes you prepare for them by having a deeper squad you can rotate... That's what Milan is doing right now... increasing their depth and squad. Emerson and Brocchi simply don't cut it.
Exactly...but last year when we had all those games to play in Japan was the year to do that. It's called being proactive.

Don't get it twisted Giancarlo - what management is doing for next year is , is more reactive to the year we just had.
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Exactly...but last year when we had all those games to play in Japan was the year to do that. It's called being proactive.

Don't get it twisted Giancarlo - what management is doing for next year is , is more reactive to the year we just had.
So the management should do nothing? Yes the moves they are making are reactive... but it's better late than never to fix mistakes that were made, or to fix the lack of action.
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Borriello does not suck. Zambrotta is a great player, and I think he has a good 4 or 5 years left in him. Antonini is a pretty good player that can be a good substitute. Hey you know Gattuso came from a team called Salernitana I believe...

Our team is NOT flawed, and we were not outspent. Look at Juve or Inter... they haven't even started buying players. Well Juve has bought what? Like three players? Mellberg? LOL. Borriello, Zambrotta and Flamini will fix it as far as I'm concerned, though buying is not done.

If you think we buy poor players, you're wrong.

Just look at Juve buys... Sissoko...

Gattuso was 20 or 21 i believe then. Antonini is 26. Zambro is great but 4-5 years is stretching it. Name another FB who is still class at 36 aside from maldini. Cafu certainly wasnt. I guess u could say zanetti from inter. But its definately NOT common.

boriello is less accomplished that gilardino coming over. I really think his stas r inflated too 1 season 19 goals. 5 from pks. so 14 goals. he's not VERY skilled. He was force fed the ball... something you dont have happen w/ big clubs. I just think he'll be like gila, fade outta most games. He's a typical small club striker. iunno, it just doesnt impress me. I'd rather have hurt ronaldo uptop
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Giancarlo, we arent pissed off because they diidnt make any transfers we wanted, we are pissed off because they made no transfers, period. They made that mistake in 2006 and we suffered badly in the league and hardly made it to fourth, but then we won the CL because of the great effort of our players..that CL win blinded our arrogant management and lead them to believe that the same eleven can do it again next year. Their problem is that they didnt learn from their mistakes and repeated it.

And most of the posters are right, this is definitely the worst moment in the Carlo era so if there is to be any worrying then it is now. I aint doing any worrying because I'm confident the management will reinforce well, one season out of the CL wouldn't hurt but it would probably be a blessing I say.

I think we need 3-4 more world class players and not just a striker. Dinho would be nice, but I think there are players that can't be depended on again - Kaladze, Oddo, Jankulovski, Gattuso. We've already got in Zambro and Flamini which are two good buys, but I want one more midfielder for Seedorf's spot. Two DMs formation is something we need to get rid of fast.


ya'all need to just be patient. Good players will come.
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Gattuso was 20 or 21 i believe then. Antonini is 26. Zambro is great but 4-5 years is stretching it. Name another FB who is still class at 36 aside from maldini. Cafu certainly wasnt. I guess u could say zanetti from inter. But its definately NOT common.

boriello is less accomplished that gilardino coming over. I really think his stas r inflated too 1 season 19 goals. 5 from pks. so 14 goals. he's not VERY skilled. He was force fed the ball... something you dont have happen w/ big clubs. I just think he'll be like gila, fade outta most games. He's a typical small club striker. iunno, it just doesnt impress me. I'd rather have hurt ronaldo uptop
Yes, Gattuso was 20-21 then. Zambrotta is great and has a lot of experience backing him. Italian players generally have greater longevity. Look at Inzaghi and Maldini. Cafu was great till the end... he gave us a lot... and even on his retirement date, his physical shape was in good form. So much so that even some Brazilian clubs were looking to sign him.

Borriello has better positional sense than Gilardino and I have confidence that he will do well. He's pretty skilled... better than Gilardino... he won't be anything like Gilardino. He's not a small club striker.
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