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Old 11-06-2008, 03:17   #4591

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From how much you have been criticisizing Galliani as of late, you have become like him!

Galliani a month ago said "We have 4 goalkeepers: Abbiati, Kalac, Dida, Coppola and Storari".
haha, ok 5 players

But if some of you understand just a bit of italian ( like I do, just an essence of sentences ) just go to Gazzetta or calciomercato.com and read italian comments about Galliani and Berlusconi. People are suggesting not to buy season tickets, not to pay SKy cards and so on...people are not satisfied, we all know what Milan is and this is not hw MIlan works on mercato for the last 4 or 5 years.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:04   #4592

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Don't worry Tony, i know Sissoko's qualities, you don't have to convince me
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:22   #4593

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we are back trailing Matteo Ferrari again.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:24   #4594

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Sorry GeoTav, i reply ur post just now

Yep, after Fred returned from injury, Alain Perin put Fred as the main striker-the position where Benzema played awesome early 'til mid of last season.
As for that cameback, Perin gave ben arfa position in left flank for benzema in 4-3-3 scheme while sidney govou in the opposite flank.
i heard few times how benzema moaning for new role play and unfortunately for benzema, fred did great as main striker after he returned.

for me, simply benzema best position is the main striker the one who close to opponent penalty box. if henry fit then domenech keep play with 4-4-2, i think you'll see how good benzema play as striker with henry support a bit behind him or run from left flank to pull out one opponent center back
It's just that Benzema is very good as a main striker and can do well if he plays on the left (don't know on the right). Anyway, he always tend to come towards centre of the pitch when he plays on the left ...

For France NT, Domenech is an a$$hole lol, he will put Benzema on the bench to play with Henry-Anelka. It's cool, that will help Italy to qualify !!
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:27   #4595

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it also rumoured that munich offfer sagnol, for oddo.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:33   #4596

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I was also wandering why do people think that MIlan needs a player like Adebayor, Drogba... Im sure we could do as well with combination of Eto'o-Kaka'-Pato, or KAka'-Pato-VILLA.
More the one I bolded than the other you quoted ...
Even G.Rossi or Aguero would be amazing there with Kaka' and Pato.

The main problem is that we would still be poor in head-playing ... I'd really like to see sometimes a goal coming from a head from one of our strikers, and not only "diving heads" from Inzaghi !! lol
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it also rumoured that munich offfer sagnol, for oddo.
Rumour that I hope is false ...
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:36   #4598

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This is the first time that I will bash our managament so if some one doesn't want to read he/she can just ignore this post.

I don't understand why our managment don't or want/willing to do they take about the Scudetto next year and want to win it without paying big in the market which is stupid and idiotic, I won't blame Galliani because he can't do any thing without Berlu's approval so I will blame Berlu because he is the boss that rules every thing.

Berlu for some reason looks like if he has lost his passion and love to football, he doesn't want to spend no matter how much money did Milan earn, like last year for example, or how much money did it lose, like this year, he simply doesn't care for what the fans wish or feel, he also doesn't even feel any ebarrassment when he deceives the fans by taking about MR X, Y, and Z just to sell tickets and then ends with fat and useless Emerson and 36 years old Ba, when I remember these details I just feel shame, if he doesn't want to spend then he has to step down and sell the club for some one else who can manages it better.
I can here some of you saying stuff like '' it his club and his money, he has the right to do what ever he wants and like and your are just complaining because its not your money and the 60 or 70 m seems a little amount on paper only bla, bla, bla '' but the fact is that Yes it's his money, Yes it's his club, however, its not 100% his do you know why? Because this club or any other one worth nothing if it has no fan base, its the fans that make the club and its them who suffer, I know pepole from Iraq and Palastine who keep asking about (Milan or any other club like Madrid, Barca and such) and worry and even cry when THEIR club lose or get eliminated from a tournment, I mean these pepole live in a horrible conditions and they should worry more about their families and friends and their own safety but, they just worry about football, and pay from the very little amount of money they earn every month to pay for the likes of Sky and Al Jazeerasports, CNBC and so on, Berlu must realize this and give the fans what they deserve other wise leave.
Its their club and they are the ones who pay money to run it, they are the ones who suffer.

Ok now I have finished with the management and will start taking about another thing which is Adebayor who according to some rumurs is so close to us which is a terrible news to me and don't get why some of you think he will be a good addition, in deed if some of you don't like Drogba for his attitude then they must hate Adebatour the guy refused to play for the national team untill they pay him all his money ( he did this twice, once in the AFN 2006 and once in the WORLDCUP! ) what kind is personality is that, if he did this with his country the he will certainly do it with his club.
The guy is a horrible finisher a and can only score once after missing something like 10 scoring opportunies which is smething we cant afford, I remmeber some years ago that Milan used to win because they turn the only chance they get during the entire game into goals and Adebayor can't do this.

If these rumurs are true then his price will be at least 35 to 40 M € which is ridiculous for a player like. with 40 m Milan can buy:
1 - David Villa
2 - Ronaldinho
3 - Drogba
4 - Benzema + 10 m
5 - Hauntelaar
6 - Etoo ( even though I don't like him he stills a better player)
7 - Luis Fabiano ( spell?)
8 - Aguero

All the above players are better than him IMO and some of them are much cheaper as well and might bring more fans than him so hopefuly we are not going to buy him.

One last thing Sissoko was by far the best Juve player in the last 3 months and if any one doubts this then just watch Jve Vs Roma Milan , Inter, Palermo, Firontena games and you will realize that he was one of the best player in Italy.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:38   #4599

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it also rumoured that munich offfer sagnol, for oddo.
Too good to be true, any way,Amen.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:50   #4600

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This is the first time that I will bash our managament so if some one doesn't want to read he/she can just ignore this post.

I don't understand why our managment don't or want/willing to do they take about the Scudetto next year and want to win it without paying big in the market which is stupid and idiotic, I won't blame Galliani because he can't do any thing without Berlu's approval so I will blame Berlu because he is the boss that rules every thing.

Berlu for some reason looks like if he has lost his passion and love to football, he doesn't want to spend no matter how much money did Milan earn, like last year for example, or how much money did it lose, like this year, he simply doesn't care for what the fans wish or feel, he also doesn't even feel any ebarrassment when he deceives the fans by taking about MR X, Y, and Z just to sell tickets and then ends with fat and useless Emerson and 36 years old Ba, when I remember these details I just feel shame, if he doesn't want to spend then he has to step down and sell the club for some one else who can manages it better.
I can here some of you saying stuff like '' it his club and his money, he has the right to do what ever he wants and like and your are just complaining because its not your money and the 60 or 70 m seems a little amount on paper only bla, bla, bla '' but the fact is that Yes it's his money, Yes it's his club, however, its not 100% his do you know why? Because this club or any other one worth nothing if it has no fan base, its the fans that make the club and its them who suffer, I know pepole from Iraq and Palastine who keep asking about (Milan or any other club like Madrid, Barca and such) and worry and even cry when THEIR club lose or get eliminated from a tournment, I mean these pepole live in a horrible conditions and they should worry more about their families and friends and their own safety but, they just worry about football, and pay from the very little amount of money they earn every month to pay for the likes of Sky and Al Jazeerasports, CNBC and so on, Berlu must realize this and give the fans what they deserve other wise leave.
Its their club and they are the ones who pay money to run it, they are the ones who suffer.

Ok now I have finished with the management and will start taking about another thing which is Adebayor who according to some rumurs is so close to us which is a terrible news to me and don't get why some of you think he will be a good addition, in deed if some of you don't like Drogba for his attitude then they must hate Adebatour the guy refused to play for the national team untill they pay him all his money ( he did this twice, once in the AFN 2006 and once in the WORLDCUP! ) what kind is personality is that, if he did this with his country the he will certainly do it with his club.
The guy is a horrible finisher a and can only score once after missing something like 10 scoring opportunies which is smething we cant afford, I remmeber some years ago that Milan used to win because they turn the only chance they get during the entire game into goals and Adebayor can't do this.

If these rumurs are true then his price will be at least 35 to 40 M € which is ridiculous for a player like. with 40 m Milan can buy:
1 - David Villa
2 - Ronaldinho
3 - Drogba
4 - Benzema + 10 m
5 - Hauntelaar
6 - Etoo ( even though I don't like him he stills a better player)
7 - Luis Fabiano ( spell?)
8 - Aguero

All the above players are better than him IMO and some of them are much cheaper as well and might bring more fans than him so hopefuly we are not going to buy him.

One last thing Sissoko was by far the best Juve player in the last 3 months and if any one doubts this then just watch Jve Vs Roma Milan , Inter, Palermo, Firontena games and you will realize that he was one of the best player in Italy.
I dont think fabiano would cost 15 mil. i read somewhere that sevilla only owns 1/3 his contract, the other 2/3 being owned by some company.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:50   #4601

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Berlu for some reason looks like if he has lost his passion and love to football, he doesn't want to spend no matter how much money did Milan earn, like last year for example, or how much money did it lose, like this year, he simply doesn't care for what the fans wish or feel, he also doesn't even feel any ebarrassment when he deceives the fans by taking about MR X, Y, and Z just to sell tickets

they must hate Adebatour the guy refused to play for the national team untill they pay him all his money ( he did this twice, once in the AFN 2006 and once in the WORLDCUP! ) what kind is personality is that, if he did this with his country the he will certainly do it with his club.
For the first part, it's Berlu's club right now, so he does what he wants ... it always was like that with him, it's just that when he put money in the team, people were happy. Anyway, we don't know yet if they will pay or not for a W-C striker, and think what you want, but 30M € is enormous, it's not because Madrid, MU, Liverpool, Inter or Chelsea spend with madness that we have to do so ...

About Adebayor, there's a problem with their nation, you can't forget their political problems ... and he wasn't the only one to refuse to play, they were a group, they were together ... and finally, they played without being paid (they were paid but after these "incidents"). It's a bit like workers who have revendications, who stop to work to be paid, their firm tell them they will be paid in 1 month and they go working again.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:06   #4602

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Galliani's latest comments (as on channel4.com) seem designed to provoke reactions in the ongoing negotiations.

Club officials (not Milan, but those clubs with whom we negotiate) deem these "blurbs" to the media to be ineffective, dated means of conducting business, and I at times question the efficacy of such public disclosure....

That said, if it works in ourf favor, I am all for it.


I truly hope that we don't go for either Adebayor or Drogba, as I rather Gomez or Benzema.
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So we lost Maggio, well, thats okay as long as we take Abate back. B/c to me, I think they are the same nonetheless and I only want Maggio more b/c of the May 5 thing
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To reply to some of you out there always wanting big transfer and Milan does not want to pay for them.

To me spending 20M on a 17 yrs old with one year of pro-football exp is as much as spending 40-50M on a sure superstar. What I am saying is that Milan do spend huge amount of money on players, it is just that those players might not be who you wish they sign.

Lets wait and see what happens by late August.

Having said that I am and still very disappointed about Milan transfer over the past 3 seasons. They are heading the right direction now, lets hope they continue.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:21   #4605

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Tony29 in 100% right, about Sissoko and more... I was saying to him and people in here that SIssoko is a great player and that he will be class. And he is.

But this problem we have solved with Flamini who is a player that can help Pirlo to play better, at least I think so. Do yu agree Tony?
I do.
Flamini ran more than anyone else in Arsenal. This isn't my impression but it's what the official stats say.
The similarity between him and Sissoko is the way they cover the midfield, being always where the ball is and winning it in 99% of the cases.
Both of them are useful in many ways but i'll use an example to show one of the ways how Flamini can help Pirlo.
You all watched Italy-Netherlands. When the Italians attacked all Dutch players were behind the ball and it was almost impossible for Pirlo to break that defense with a pass, because everyone was well covered and Pirlo always had a man or two covering him.
But when the Italians lost a ball and the Dutch countered Gattuso and Ambrosini couldn't win the ball back and it was always a goal scoring chance for Holland.
Now, if Ambrosini and Gattuso won these balls while 3 or 4 Dutch players went running in attack, we would have seen a different match. Without 10 players behind the ball covering space and every single Italian player, Pirlo would have been allowed the freedom to look and find a free Italian player on the flanks or in the center and we all know what can Pirlo do in such situations. But he never got such a chance against Holland.

This wasn't a new problem actually. We've seen this happening far too many times this season, especially at San Siro when teams defended with 10 players and countered every time Milan lost the ball. What happened to Italy against Holland happened to Milan against Sampdoria, Atalanta and Empoli at San Siro (there are probably few more matches).
I don't know what happened to Gattuso this year. He seemed like a different player from the Gattuso we know. Ambrosini played very good in attack but defensively he was average at most.

What Ambrosini and Gattuso couldn't do this year, Flamini and Sissoko did with ease.
It wasn't a coincidence that Juve were the best team of the second part of serie A (they won more points than any other team, until the last 3 rounds when they secured top 4 and won only 2 points out of 9).
Sissoko was winning every single ball in midfield and he allowed Camoranesi and Del Piero to do the rest of the job. Camo and Del Piero shined exactly after Sissoko started playing for Juve.
We all know what was Flamini doing for Arsenal, so i won't even mention it.
This is what makes guys like Flamini and Sissoko useful to the team. They make the others play better by allowing them the freedom and the space to play their game.

Some people are sceptical about Flamini and say how he only had one good season which isn't enough to see if he's really good or not. Others say he played well because of Wenger.
Sorry but that's BS. Flamini runs all the time and wins balls all the time. He doesn't need Wenger to do these things.
He'll be great for Milan and he'll be the main reason why we'll see a great Pirlo next year.

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Don't worry Tony, i know Sissoko's qualities, you don't have to convince me
Hey, i said thank you for Sissoko, didn't i ?
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