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Old 11-06-2008, 11:50   #4636

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No I'm saying they arent good enough to make a real contribution in our midfield as of now. I said they will be good.
They wouldn't be in our starting 11 next season any way...we could integrate him in the squad during the coming season and if he exceeds expectations then maybe he could start. Better to get him now than wait when he's at Roma and 4 times the price.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:52   #4637

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We dont need to pay 20 mln for Moutinho, players like Cigarini and Dessena are good enough. Specially Cigarini.

Drogba is right now a better palyer then Adebayor, but Adebayor is only 24 years old and that means 8 more years of top football. Noone wants to play in a club that has no chance to win championships ( Arsenal at this moment, with 90% Hleb ačlso leaving ). But the real hope is that Benzema will play for Milan, that is no.1 dream for me.

And Ronaldinho, as someone said, cannont be let go just like that, he is too good for that.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:53   #4638

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Also they wouldn't cost a lot at all and Cigarini is a class player just look at his U21 performances. If his name were Cigarinho we'd be all over him. Let's not forget the importance of having Italian players in the team, with the proposed 6 + 5 rule coming up.
we have ALOT of italian players. We are not inter. I'm not saying dont buy italian players. I'm saying buy best players regardless of nationality. If our roster was less italian i would suggest buying more italians. But i dont think thats an issue.
First team italians: Boriello, pippo, pirlo, ambro, gattuso, brocchi, antonini, maldini, favalli, nesta, bonera, oddo, zambrotta, abbiati, paloschi

if it were up to me we'd cut 5 of those.... but 15 first team italians is pretty good
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We dont need to pay 20 mln for Moutinho, players like Cigarini and Dessena are good enough. Specially Cigarini.
Moutinho is world class. Starting for portugese national team, playing VERY well. He is very versitile too. Can play kaka's role, pirlos roll or a side MF. I'm not saying dont sign cigarini or dessena too.

But your argument is like saying sign Lanzafame over Adebayor cause hes young ITALIAN and talented. U21 star!
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:03   #4640

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So we lost Maggio, well, thats okay as long as we take Abate back. B/c to me, I think they are the same nonetheless and I only want Maggio more b/c of the May 5 thing
I didn't expect us to sign Maggio in all honesty. He and much of his family are self proclaimed Inter fans. It would have come to great surprise if we did sign him...
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:07   #4641

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Moutinho is world class. Starting for portugese national team, playing VERY well. He is very versitile too. Can play kaka's role, pirlos roll or a side MF. I'm not saying dont sign cigarini or dessena too.

But your argument is like saying sign Lanzafame over Adebayor cause hes young ITALIAN and talented. U21 star!
my opinion has always been buy italian. All of the great Milan sides had a great italian core.

Im surprised none of you guys have talked about the Benzema rumours flying arround, Mediaset reported it this morning. Well the story goes that if Milan are going to spend 50 mill euros on drogba and Eto we will have to spend a huge amount on there wages. However if we signed Benzema his wages would be alot less. For a 20 year old hes amazing. Also they said there could have been reasons why we let Lyon get LLoris.. I hope we dont sign Adebayor, i think Benzema would be a better player for us.
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my opinion has always been buy italian. All of the great Milan sides had a great italian core.

Im surprised none of you guys have talked about the Benzema rumours flying arround, Mediaset reported it this morning. Well the story goes that if Milan are going to spend 50 mill euros on drogba and Eto we will have to spend a huge amount on there wages. However if we signed Benzema his wages would be alot less. For a 20 year old hes amazing. Also they said there could have been reasons why we let Lyon get LLoris.. I hope we dont sign Adebayor, i think Benzema would be a better player for us.
Gosh, someone agrees with me... I thought I was standing all alone on that one... indeed, I may be so pro-Italian... I'm not against some foreign signings. I was pleased with Mathieu Flamini signing for us...

Benzema may be a good idea... but... is he consistent? I'm just concerned if we sign a striker too young... but either way, I don't want Milan to sign Adebayor either.
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Gosh, someone agrees with me... I thought I was standing all alone on that one... indeed, I may be so pro-Italian... I'm not against some foreign signings. I was pleased with Mathieu Flamini signing for us...

Benzema may be a good idea... but... is he consistent? I'm just concerned if we sign a striker too young... but either way, I don't want Milan to sign Adebayor either.

our current starting lineup could be as many as 9 italians. (kaka and pato being only non) there is NO other big club in the world who is that nationalized. I believe all teams should ahve a core of players of there country. I think the epl is kinda sickening w/ no english players.....however look at there success.

Look all i'm saying is. we will still have a largely italian core. but on a REAL talent level... its not good enough to win. If that means we need to buy non italian, then we do. I am for the BEST player.


and fyi flamini is of italian decent (his father is italian... hence y he left epl for serie A... his dream)
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:23   #4644

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our current starting lineup could be as many as 9 italians. (kaka and pato being only non) there is NO other big club in the world who is that nationalized. I believe all teams should ahve a core of players of there country. I think the epl is kinda sickening w/ no english players.....however look at there success.

Look all i'm saying is. we will still have a largely italian core. but on a REAL talent level... its not good enough to win. If that means we need to buy non italian, then we do. I am for the BEST player.


and fyi flamini is of italian decent (his father is italian... hence y he left epl for serie A... his dream)
There are a few in Argentina that are almost entirely Argentine... I think one that doesn't even have one foreign star. But they are smaller clubs. I think if we have more Italians it will be better for national team standing. I don't want to see our best Italians sit on the bench, like in England where the best English players sit on the bench in favor of international players.

I think with the Italian core we are fully capable in winning. Just a few more signings, including a big name striker or two, and we will be fine. I am for the best player too... but I think we need to recognize we can find the best in Italy too. But dont' get me wrong, I'm all for signing a few big names internationally. I was upset when Milan didn't get Hugo Lloris for example...

Yeah, I know that Flamini is of Italian descent... he's fully welcomed to Milan. I wonder if he knows Italian?
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:25   #4645

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my opinion has always been buy italian. All of the great Milan sides had a great italian core.
I agree 100% I never thought otherwise either....but in the event that
1)the non italian is a better deal (similar skills better price)
2)the nonitalian is MUCH better
3)there are no world class Italians in the opposition atm

[quote=Graeme C]We shouldn't let a player's passport blind us to him. Overall you are right....let the selling out go to Inter.....However atm most of the best Italian players are for some reason or the other unavailable. We shouldn't try to force the issue with others who don't enhance the club

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Im surprised none of you guys have talked about the Benzema rumours flying arround, Mediaset reported it this morning. Well the story goes that if Milan are going to spend 50 mill euros on drogba and Eto we will have to spend a huge amount on there wages. However if we signed Benzema his wages would be alot less. For a 20 year old hes amazing. Also they said there could have been reasons why we let Lyon get LLoris.. I hope we dont sign Adebayor, i think Benzema would be a better player for us.
I hope you aren't serious......you really think Lyon would be sooooo greatful for us letting them have Lloris that they'd give us one of the most talented young strikers in the world atm. I guess if Inter step aside in our pursuit of Drogba we should feel obliged to sell them Kaka for $20M Euro
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:29   #4646

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Just to turn your attention ( as Ive read here that Dec is no longer a great palyer ) to the way Deco plays for Portugal right now and in the last game, he is brilliant.

The thing Rijkaard did with his players is scandalous, horrible.

Dos Santos was sold for nothing, to a club that will win something in 50 years, and he was considered the best young player on earth. Rijkaard made him look like an average palyer.

Deco - "not fit", out of form...well it doesnt look like that now.

Abidal - himself said today that he plays oor becouse they dont train wel in Barcelona.

Zambrotta - slower then before, not too old to be fast still.

Ronaldinho - ?? Whatever, but he is the most talented palyer on earth nd Milan simply needs to sign him.

Henry - ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Yaya Toure - Rijkaard sdid what with him? nothing, made him play worse then before he came to Barcelona.

milito - worse then ever.
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We need to sign Ronaldinho, that wil be super transfer as this man only needs 2 months or REAL preparations and Seedorf can forget about starting 11.
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Deco is brilliant. Joao Moutinho is a better investment. 10 years younger, and as skilled.

Someone posted this in another forum. Jo! The competition is a little suspect, but he has all the qualities of a striker we desire. Iunno if you believe pippo has another year i nthe tank and borriello will give u something now, he might be the way to go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7QsR2IiYVw

also showing his strength against inter....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RlJDvUNne8

cordoba may be shortl... but he is a damm good defender

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Old 11-06-2008, 13:02   #4648

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Am I the only one that believes Ronaldinho is past his best?
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Old 11-06-2008, 13:04   #4649

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if any body knows, what is the price of Daniel Carvahlo.
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Old 11-06-2008, 13:04   #4650

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Hello everyone,this will be my first post and i would like to say that i enjoy everyones passion for Milan.I only have one opinion about this striker search.While we are linked to players that have become established stars such as Drogba,Eto'o,Berbatov and then also up and comers stars such as Benzema,Gomis,Adebayor and Gomez.That's where the problem is,we are always going to pay higher price for these players.Where other clubs groom them to become stars and other clubs pay the high prices.
That said,Milans best signing have always come on buying a player that have been young and at a lower price.Examples Pirlo,Kaka,Gattuso,Ambro and [Pato compared to today's standards].So why doesn't Milan go back to what works for them and stop wheeling and dealing for players that are too old for the price or too young for the price.How would you like to be on the other side,just like when we sold Sheva.
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