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Old 18-06-2008, 00:31   #5521

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Cassano is a great player and the only player that can really play that AM role for Italy at the moment. He needs to start the remainder of the games...beautiful play from him again today. Doubt we'll get him due to his temper issues...
He was knocked down a few times in fouls by the French... it seems like he had his temper under wraps better...
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:08   #5522

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i know him alright, great pace, all round midfielder, i posted on somewher around page 30 about him, but everybody had shut me down.
yes.. Afellay is awesome. i saw the game last night against Romania. fantastic performance by him. he created many chances for Holland last night. like he never lose the creativity. great pace also. what a player !
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:26   #5523

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What am I going to say next? Zambrotta is NOT declining.
I'd say he have already declined. I just hope he will recover instead of declining further.

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In fact he's recovering from that horrendous experience he had with Barcelona.
The likelyhood that he just recovers from a so called horrendeous experience there isn't that high. Great players should be able to play good everywhere they play.

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This isn't nationalist propaganda or anything. I'll say Brazilians last pretty long too though not as long as Italians... take Cafu and Serginho... either way, Zambrotta has at least 5 seasons with Milan in the books.
Itailan players often last longer because the tempo in Italy suits them and because they break through later. Players that break through earlier often end up finishing their career earlier too. Truly great players and some exceptions of course.

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Barcelona treats their players like dogs.
this may be taking it a bit to far, but it is true that Milan in general have treated their players far better than most other clubs. Currently that is kind of the problem. We been giving away money in stupid contracts a bit to much. Now Galliani complains about that, yeah the contracts he gave away to begin with.

I really really wished we got Ribery. Of course not now that he is injured, but last summer. He would have made the difference.
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:36   #5524

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agree with every point of kris
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:44   #5525

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I'd say he have already declined. I just hope he will recover instead of declining further.
He isn't declining. He's recovering. He had a bad season with Barcelona... big deal.

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The likelyhood that he just recovers from a so called horrendeous experience there isn't that high. Great players should be able to play good everywhere they play.
Sometimes great players don't have good experiences in some places, and are better in others. Adriano is an example of this. Zambrotta is too. That's a fact. Barcelona does treats its players badly. Zambrotta didn't play with BArcelona because the way Barcelona plays and how their staff was before. Like it or not, even great players don't play great everywhere.

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this may be taking it a bit to far, but it is true that Milan in general have treated their players far better than most other clubs. Currently that is kind of the problem. We been giving away money in stupid contracts a bit to much. Now Galliani complains about that, yeah the contracts he gave away to begin with.
No, it's not the problem. It's part of the solution to maintain cohesion amongst the squad. We retired quite a few of our older players, by the way.

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I really really wished we got Ribery. Of course not now that he is injured, but last summer. He would have made the difference.
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Old 18-06-2008, 02:08   #5526

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He isn't declining. He's recovering. He had a bad season with Barcelona... big deal.
Speculation. We can't say anything here for sure. He sure is in the age were he could very well decline...

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Sometimes great players don't have good experiences in some places, and are better in others. Adriano is an example of this. Zambrotta is too. That's a fact.
This is not a fact until he shows himself better over a season with us. We will see which tune we will sign a year from now. I'll hope you are correct in your assessment.

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Barcelona does treats its players badly. Zambrotta didn't play with BArcelona because the way Barcelona plays and how their staff was before. Like it or not, even great players don't play great everywhere.
? Zambrotta played, he played most games and in the same position he plays for the national team.

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No, it's not the problem. It's part of the solution to maintain cohesion amongst the squad. We retired quite a few of our older players, by the way.
They retired themselves. In most cases a year to late. "cohesion amongst the squad"? What does that even mean? Fact is that we have not played well the last two seasons and that mostly been because we had overpayed over the hill reserves. Most of them collect silly wages while being out injured the whole season. all the while our first teamers have none to take some load of them... Most of them having higher wages than Adrian Mutu...
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Speculation. We can't say anything here for sure. He sure is in the age were he could very well decline...



This is not a fact until he shows himself better over a season with us. We will see which tune we will sign a year from now. I'll hope you are correct in your assessment.
Respectfully disagreed. We will have to get back to transfers I hope. I'm sure he will show us that indeed and I have confidence in that after his displays. And 31 is not old. He's not declining.

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? Zambrotta played, he played most games and in the same position he plays for the national team.
I can't agree with you at all on anything really. Players can go to different teams but their performance depends on team work with other players. Why can't you understand?

If you're gonna argue with me that great players should play great with any team they play... obviously you're wrong. Just look at Mario Gomez. Plays with Stuttgart, not so well with the German national team.

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They retired themselves. In most cases a year to late. "cohesion amongst the squad"? What does that even mean? Fact is that we have not played well the last two seasons and that mostly been because we had overpayed over the hill reserves. Most of them collect silly wages while being out injured the whole season. all the while our first teamers have none to take some load of them... Most of them having higher wages than Adrian Mutu...
Cohesion means team work and such. I don't agree with just about anything you say, so I'm not going to take this any further. There are many trophies the last few years that show Milan is working well. This previous season was poor because the team had injuries. Now is time to get new players I agree.

Why do you find it necessary to criticize me? Zambrotta will play very well with Milan and I BET ON THAT ONE! FACT.

We retired many of our older players.

Edit: Sorry I just like being optimistic about things. I can't stand to be around negativity all the time.

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Old 18-06-2008, 03:21   #5528

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Why do you find it necessary to criticize me? Zambrotta will play very well with Milan and I BET ON THAT ONE! FACT.

Edit: Sorry I just like being optimistic about things. I can't stand to be around negativity all the time.
You criticize his point of view, he criticizes your point of view, you criticize his point of view, he ... what's the problem ? Both criticize each other's point of view.

For Zambrotta, I hope he will play like a king and will rock in Milan, but we can't be sure about that and will have to wait until next season to know if he was a good purchase and addition to the team or not (what is bold is a real fact).

I'm pretty optimistic about our team and our next season (ask to some posters here), but we can't be "too optimistic" too after a season like that and about players we buy. I think we'll do well (Serie A champion !!) but it's not difficult to admit that some players we buy could fail (or not). We'll be able to do a statement of our current mercato only next year, or even in 2 years (while we can say that this mercato is good for moment, it's only "on paper", I mean, we don't know if it is a good mercato on the pitch) !! It's as simple as that ...
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Old 18-06-2008, 03:56   #5529

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Mr. Galliani spoke:Ronaldinho arrives if is free transfer,and also said that Berlusconi don't want to spend money on big transfers,he edit Flamini,Zambrotta,Antonini,Boriello is very good transfers that means NO BUY enymore!!!
mercato is closed for us 99%
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Old 18-06-2008, 04:00   #5530

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I'm pretty optimistic about our team and our next season (ask to some posters here), but we can't be "too optimistic" too after a season like that and about players we buy. I think we'll do well (Serie A champion !!) but it's not difficult to admit that some players we buy could fail (or not). We'll be able to do a statement of our current mercato only next year, or even in 2 years (while we can say that this mercato is good for moment, it's only "on paper", I mean, we don't know if it is a good mercato on the pitch) !! It's as simple as that ...
Agreed, we can't count our chickens before they hatch. On paper who would have thought that we would have struggled to score goals in our own stadium in the first half of the past season.

We just have to wait and see how next season will unfold.

Naturally if things go badly, then the new additions wil be blamed. Then all those who were so glad to get them, will be bashing them asking why we bought them in the first place.

We are a fickle bunch
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Old 18-06-2008, 05:36   #5531

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Mr. Galliani spoke:Ronaldinho arrives if is free transfer,and also said that Berlusconi don't want to spend money on big transfers,he edit Flamini,Zambrotta,Antonini,Boriello is very good transfers that means NO BUY enymore!!!
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That's crazy! Got a link for that statement?

On the Zambro subject, I find the negativity about him coming here kind of weird. In my opinion, he's the best kind of vingback we could get and I think he will fit our system with no problems.
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Old 18-06-2008, 05:48   #5532

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That's crazy! Got a link for that statement?

On the Zambro subject, I find the negativity about him coming here kind of weird. In my opinion, he's the best kind of vingback we could get and I think he will fit our system with no problems.
http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=1924

That is not crazy that is our's pure realety..
We can fight for 4 place again no scudetto battle I supose!!
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Old 18-06-2008, 06:01   #5533

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Mr. Galliani spoke:Ronaldinho arrives if is free transfer,and also said that Berlusconi don't want to spend money on big transfers,he edit Flamini,Zambrotta,Antonini,Boriello is very good transfers that means NO BUY enymore!!!
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Smokescreen?
Anyway seems that Mancini is going to Inter for 10 mil pounds imho. That isn't that expensive, to bad we never got involved with him.
I mean he is brazilian and we dont have him
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The only thing I will keep from that interview is: "oltre alla promozione di Darmian" ... that means that Darmian will be part of our first team !! Cool !!

Anyway, I don't think there is one true word in this interview lol ...
Like Koeke said: "smokescreen"

I'm pretty sure we'll get one (maybe two if someone is sold) more player before the end of mercato.
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Old 18-06-2008, 06:12   #5535

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Can someone please find, and post the link to my post where I listed the Silly Season Rules? Its somewhere in this thread.

I think its time we had a little refresher.

Apparently a few members have forgotten, or are unaware of the rules that if followed, would go a long way in preserving their sanity.

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