Summer Mercato

it seems we will offer Oddo, Simic and cash for Mutu, which i am not totally against, but with mutu, seing he is not the powerful center forward, Milan has on there radar, then i do not see a need for Boriello.

Originally Posted by payne

it seems we will offer Oddo, Simic and cash for Mutu, which i am not totally against, but with mutu, seing he is not the powerful center forward, Milan has on there radar, then i do not see a need for Boriello.

Now that would be a great deal!

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

I have a question.

Why is it that when we are faced with conflicting rumors/reports, we often tend to go with the more negative of the two?

Pragmatism? Or just negativity?

(Ok, so three questions )

Generally I am very positive, but we have to remember that we are not in the CL. As such, unless Berlu invests, we ill not buy star players. That is my reasoning. Oh, and I love to eat humble pie if it is for the better of our beloved club.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

If you look at the recent history, Berlu has not really spent a lot on a player.

Around 20M € for Pato isn't enough ?
I see it's not your money ... lol

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

We all know Berlu has the money to spend. However, I think he also wants Milan to show that it can "walk on its own feet". I don't think this has anything to do with his motivation. He just doesn't want us to function as a club striving to stay afloat.

Not getting us in the CL has hurt us. I don't share Galliani's pessimism with regards to Italy being behind Germany now in terms of the market, but his rants do have an element of truth.

If you look at the recent history, Berlu has not really spent a lot on a player. Couple that with no CL, and I don't think we will get a striker of any significance (Eto'o etc.). However, that does not mean we shouldn't go for someone in Italy etc., get back into the CL and then really really invest.

Just my opinion.

No issue with ur opinion bro...none at all.
I just differ in some respects. I think he will make one or two big splashes in the market....why? Well the team needs it, and i think he wants the best for the team. I dont think he will break any world records, and I think R10 is gonna be here before the summer is out.

If not, so be it. We are good enough to make a strong scudetto challenge...but I think its clear for us to be competitive next term, we do need a more proven striker than Boriello.

Plus, after Rino slapped him yesterday, I think he may be a bit intimidated.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Around 20M € for Pato isn't enough ?
I see it's not your money ... lol

Milan could have also bought Pato by the money that the club made. I mean coming in, Abramovich style, and putting cash on the table.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I see it's not your money ... lol

Too bizarre to merit any serious comment.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

By "Darmian" are we talking about Kaka´s brother? Even more reason for me to disbelieve this latest report. Doesnt suit me at all.

Though GeoTav has given a brief explanation, I'll try to elaborate a little. Darmian is a youth product (around 18 now) that has played in the senior squad on occasions, mostly in the Coppa. Many consider him one of the most promising young defenders coming through in the Italian game, with him playing in the Italian defence in a recent youth tournament (Under-19 I think).
Personally, I think if given the chance to grow, he will become a world class defender. I know some others, like Kris, aren’t convinced yet, but certainly few will argue against him being one of the most exciting players coming through our ranks.

We were CL champ last year and did Berlu invest the squad inorder to make sure we stay as champ???? 20Mil for Pato is huge BUT he is an unknown and he is someone who will be available till Jan.
I am not jumping off the support our MGT wagon just yet, but the payroll for next year is 120M or so with no CL. The MGT can assume we will be in the red, and the only way to not be in deep red is SIGN players that can help u promote the team(sell more merchandize) and help the team to win. That way people will keep flooding the games and even so-so fans will actually begin to support MIlan and go to every games. Another way is to cut payroll, guys that have no use and get paids MILLIONS MUST GO. IT is as simple as that, nothing against Dida, Brocchi, Emerson, Favalli, Simic, Oddo, Janku and Kalac, they are all good players, but the money Milan is paying them, they are really way overprice.

Look guys don't worry....If Berlu wants the club to stand on its feet then cool. We'll surely suffer for the next 2-3 years but it's all good...
1) the gloryhunters will surely leave us and only true rossonero will stay.
2) eventually galliani and co. will be forced to value the promising youth
3) transfers will become more streamlined and we won't just buy a player because he's good or cheap

^ Essentially this means we'll become more like Juve but Juve have been doing well domestically and it's time that we showed the rest of Italy who we really are.
But if this is the new direction of milan then we need to get cracking on:
a)Booting out wage guzzlers
b)Booting out players who surely can't cut it at the top level
c)Borrowing the funds for at least one superstar every two seasons
d)perhaps considering increasing Milan's shares on the stock market
e)Investing in our youth academy/primevera and scouting services.

To me this holistic outlook must be implemented if Milan is to be independant of Berlu. I also fear some of our ideals/family spirit might be lost in the process

we cannot afford to buy players unless we invest or sell players, according to Galliani.

so whats the problem, there are many players i could find to sell, and make a good amount form.

Simic, Oddo, Seedorf, Favalli, Marek, Brocchi, "Gattuso's Bytch, Boriello" Storari, Dida, Abbiati, Kalac, (not to sell all keepers, but any one of the three + storari should be sold),
Emerson, Auyomabeng digao, im 50-50 for kaladze.

not to sell all the players named above, but some can be sold to help make up for transfer prices.

Originally Posted by payne

we cannot afford to buy players unless we invest or sell players, according to Galliani.

How he can't be ashamed to say such a nonsense.

Originally Posted by Milano84

thats nationalist propoganda. What are you going to say next?

What about oddo then? He was best RB in italy for a few years. saw huge decline when he went over 30. Sure he's smart, and can still make good tackles, but he doesnt race down flank anymore or cross well.

I hope you're right. but its really more the exception than the fact

Let's stop here. Oddo was best right back in italy for a few years? You kidding me? He can't even hold down a place in the NT.....don't make me laugh, he was just a decent RB at best and that's when he was close to 30.

I know alot of you guys might think i'am crazy,but i agree with Milans policy right now.
Milan has to get deadbeats like Emerson,Simic and Dida of there books.I am also happy that Milan is facing this problem.because without problems there will be no change.
The Mutu deal makes alot of sense,if we can part ways with Simic way or another and move Oddo another high wage earner+13million,you do it yesterday.Maybe Oddo is on the decline and not just injured last year?

I totally agree with guys on this board,that say its a 2year fix with some of the transfers.Milan has to stop buying players like Ronaldo,Emerson and Redondo all from Real that have shown that they are injured in there past.It just seems that Milan gets caught up in the big name hype with these guys.
These players have nothing to prove at Milan and are at the end of road,unlike Italian players who have more pride in playing for of one the big clubs in Italy.
Milan has to invest smarter now,because they been burned and now being out of the CL it really hurts in different ways.

Article by Corriere dello Sport
Milan have shown interest in Veloso, and Braida's claims are not a surprise to Veloso's Agent. His contract clause is € 30M. Otherwise negotiations may start after the Euro2008.
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Veloso hasn't really impressed me so far in the Euro, although i didnt see all of his performance in Switzerland-Portugal.. another Sporting L. player has impressed me slightly more, is Joao Moutinho.

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Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has said Barcelona's Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho will not be joining the club as they can't afford to compete with English, Spanish and German clubs for their signatures. (La Gazzetta dello Sport, 1110)
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What is going on here guys? Is this just smoke and mirrors in an attempt to lower the price or is he saying that Man City and Villareal have more spending power than Milan?

Look at inter for flip sake, Berlusconi has ten times the fortune of Moratti. ???