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Wow such bickering...you people are amazing. I'll only reply to Giancarlo's comments about Milan having one of the best youth systems in the world. You cannot be serious. Just last year or year before we were talking about how Milan had NO players in the Italian U-21, U-19 or U-17 ranks. Even Galliani admitted this and started investing more in our youth team from last season. Also if we DO produce good players they never see any time of day because they're loaned for 10 seasons before they come back at age 32 for a bench role.

Our youth system pales in comparison to that of teams like Roma, Barcelona, Ajax let alone the South American teams. When last have we had a player break through the youth ranks and stay in the team? Maldini ?

Nevertheless we seem to be improving as we have a few players in the U-19 team, one in the U-17 I believe plus Paloschi, Di Gennaro etc. Maybe we'll get there soon but as of now I wouldn't say we have one of the best youth systems in the world. Then again with Ancelotti as coach these players wouldn't be given much of a chance anyway....................

I admit that I am very disappointed in Galliani's recent comments.. I've always said it is better for him to keep his mouth shut and deal with the transfers rather than giving the fans false hope.

They've been promising us certain players and players of certain calibres for two years now and all they've got that is worth noting is Pato - who we need to norture for a few years. The 180% thing he said, along with one of Ade,Drogba,Eto and along with the Mr X thing...and now he complains that we don't have money when clearly it is our managements fault for having such high wage bills and still ending fifth in the league.. sad to see players like Dida, Brocchi, Emerson, Favalli earning so much..these are the reasons why we dont have enough cash - not because of the taxes..it is because of their poor management. Galliani always finds someone to blame, always..even when we lose a match he almost always blames the ref.

I really would like to see Galliani resign. He is humuliating Milan with what he says.

Giancarlo, the X button is on the top right corner of the browser if you cant find it

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

That was completely and utterly unjustified. You just accused me of being a fascist?

I'm out of here before I say something I regret.

As far as I'm concerned, that's an offense that should be considered a ban.

can I use the above post for my new sig pretty please ?

Hitmann, I agree with the ref thing. It's sad to see how they tally up points we "could have had" or penalties we "should have received" on the website. Paranoid much? Just get on with your damn job, Galliani.
Italy and French national teams performance have shown alot of how football is changing-both teams loaded with big names, been around alot, won alot, but now things are shifting, and those teams seem to be drifting off. The core of both teams have been really ragged, and the youngsters haven't been given the full chance to play in a system for their capabilities. Plucky sides with major grit, major speed and physicality are able to offset the technical aspect of these teams. It's been a real eye opener. Contrast that with the dutch; they are stacked with very technical players, but also fighters like Engelaar, Boularhouz, even Van der Vaart doesn't mind a scrap or two.
I don't want Milan to turn into a foreign side, I want to maintain our Italian identity, and there are players in Italy capable of forming a winning side. Let's focus on this rather than some wild goose chase of Mr. X that will never show up. This is our year to take risks and chances, to remold and reshape the team for the future. This management I think does not agree with my views. Thankfully for Giancarlo, I don't work for Milan management since I have crazy ideas, but management have got nothing but washed up, recycled b*llsh*t. The last days of desperate men...?

so if we do unload simic does this mean we'll get another defender? Matteo ferrari eh?

Originally Posted by jtelly

Hitmann, I agree with the ref thing. It's sad to see how they tally up points we "could have had" or penalties we "should have received" on the website. Paranoid much? Just get on with your damn job, Galliani.
Italy and French national teams performance have shown alot of how football is changing-both teams loaded with big names, been around alot, won alot, but now things are shifting, and those teams seem to be drifting off. The core of both teams have been really ragged, and the youngsters haven't been given the full chance to play in a system for their capabilities. Plucky sides with major grit, major speed and physicality are able to offset the technical aspect of these teams. It's been a real eye opener. Contrast that with the dutch; they are stacked with very technical players, but also fighters like Engelaar, Boularhouz, even Van der Vaart doesn't mind a scrap or two.
I don't want Milan to turn into a foreign side, I want to maintain our Italian identity, and there are players in Italy capable of forming a winning side. Let's focus on this rather than some wild goose chase of Mr. X that will never show up. This is our year to take risks and chances, to remold and reshape the team for the future. This management I think does not agree with my views. Thankfully for Giancarlo, I don't work for Milan management since I have crazy ideas, but management have got nothing but washed up, recycled b*llsh*t. The last days of desperate men...?

The thing is. I agree milan is an italian side and should always hold that identity. I am the first to back that point up. but if we made 4 foreign signings now. We still would have more than half italian players. No other big club boasts that many from there nation. We are really in no danger of losing the italian identity. Perhaps when maldini, nesta, zambro, gattuso, ambro, pirlo, pippo. oddo etc retire.... but by that point a new generation of 1st team azzuri players will emmerge and you know we will sign a few of them.... hopefully before they r 30 :-D

Milano, agree with you, I wasn't trying to say that we're not Italian now, but I don't want to be Arsenal, that's all. I do think that is something that Berlu would never let happen (it would look terrible politically), and I've always been happy with our mix of nationalities.

Originally Posted by Milano84

btw, i dug this up.... http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_...guadagni.shtml

click on Tutti i 494 stipendi and you'll see last years wage bill for ALL of serie A.

DIDA peticularly is ridiculous.....and it only adds up to 71.5, where as it says 120 mil. can some1 explain this? Multiple sites all report our wage bill is 120 mil, so i dont see why thats wrong..

120m is with taxes included while the numbers presented for each player are tax free.

Also don't forget that Italian players might come cheaper than foreign players, take less time to gel with the team because of similar language and are of the similar quality. Like Tony29 said...why shop in Porto Alegre when you can shop in Vicenza ?

Originally Posted by Mystik

Also don't forget that Italian players might come cheaper than foreign players, take less time to gel with the team because of similar language and are of the similar quality. Like Tony29 said...why shop in Porto Alegre when you can shop in Vicenza ?

doesnt mean they r better though. Good players are everywhere. not every italian is good. not every brazilian is good. not every spaniard is bad.... sometimes a good mixture can add different elements to make the team better

I was just giving an example. I can bet my life that if there were an 18 year old striker ripping up youth team football anywhere BUT South America we wouldn't spend 20 mil on him. Give him a Brazilian passport then...................


P.S. (I'm in no way criticizing Pato...just using him as an example)

I've been away for 3hours and all hell breaks loose on this board.

Guys the reality is we are supporters and Berlusconi owns the club.I know everyone likes to play manager,but i truly doubt anyone has the sources,scouting and the abilities to make soccer desicions like our managment.
It's good to be upset,because it shows passion to Milan.But we all need to take a deep breath and remember the history of Milan.The club will find someone at striker and i hope goalkeeper.Now it may not be the guys that we want,but with with Milans track record, you have to believe in the team.
That said it's probably a player that's not even mentioned in the newspapers and also why do so many of guys just go with what newpapers and media say and then panic about it.

Originally Posted by Mystik

I was just giving an example. I can bet my life that if there were an 18 year old striker ripping up youth team football anywhere BUT South America we wouldn't spend 20 mil on him. Give him a Brazilian passport then...................


P.S. (I'm in no way criticizing Pato...just using him as an example)

good point. But it also has to do w/ brazilian league and team having a track record. If pato was brazilian playing that way in the MLS in america he would have got 12 mil.... soley because people dont trust the competition.

I once bought a Ming dynasty vase that said "Made in Italy". And Yes it was cheaper from Vicenza

Originally Posted by Mystik

I was just giving an example. I can bet my life that if there were an 18 year old striker ripping up youth team football anywhere BUT South America we wouldn't spend 20 mil on him. Give him a Brazilian passport then...................


P.S. (I'm in no way criticizing Pato...just using him as an example)

It's just image for years. Image appears when something has already become almost a certaintity. Mechanical parts from Germany 'must' be awesome. If a unknown country produce a mecahnical part which is similar quality with made in germany or even better, people wont pay higher than what normally pay for the german part.

Its same like Brasilian (south american) regarding football talents. Even if a young player has more talent than Pato, if he is not south america, no club will pay Pato's price. Players from south america (Brazil) 'give' more guarantee for the clubs that buy them.