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Old 18-06-2008, 22:52   #5701

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U guys are too funny sometime.
Abate is good and have all the tools to be great. But he is far from being the best future players as someone by the name of Pato, Messi, Cesc, Bojan(that Barcelona kid), Zapata and Balotelli already laid claim to that. As it stands now, I think Messi is the most exp. and the best player at this moment.
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Old 18-06-2008, 22:54   #5702

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chill in...
every one has own perspective respectively and the most important they also have their own benchmark to value a quality matter
There's no absolute parameter available for such condition
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Old 18-06-2008, 22:56   #5703

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U guys are too funny sometime.
Abate is good and have all the tools to be great. But he is far from being the best future players as someone by the name of Pato, Messi, Cesc, Bojan(that Barcelona kid), Zapata and Balotelli already laid claim to that. As it stands now, I think Messi is the most exp. and the best player at this moment.
You never know... you may be underestimating him. Balotelli is a bit overrated in my opinion though... not just because he's with Inter...

Btw, I'm talking about future Azzurri players... future Italian players...

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Old 18-06-2008, 23:29   #5704

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I am still waiting to see how the baldy will explain his idiotic 180%. Honestly, I don't want $hevchenko back, and I don't have to have Ronaldinho either, it is just that I have no idea how that percentage came up. I was an adamant supporter of the management, I still might be, but obviously Galliani is becoming more and more clown-ish every day.
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Old 18-06-2008, 23:49   #5705

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You never know... you may be underestimating him. Balotelli is a bit overrated in my opinion though... not just because he's with Inter...

Btw, I'm talking about future Azzurri players... future Italian players...
Relax Giancarlo, just like somebody else might underestimate him, it's probable that you overrate him as well. Siregar was laughing at your comment about "the best future players", not at you. But you make yourself look ridiculous by saying that "I get it" and "some people laugh at all italian youth players, and lets just buy ALL players overseas... yes. That's smart." From your comment, it;s obvious that you don't get his point.

You also said that "youth talent takes time to emerge". That's the one thing we don't have now: time. Only time will tell if he turns out to be an outstanding player. Until then, myfellow milanisti, try to relax and make peace with people who have different opinion.
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Old 18-06-2008, 23:53   #5706

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Relax Giancarlo, just like somebody else might underestimate him, it's probable that you overrate him as well. Siregar was laughing at your comment about "the best future players", not at you. But you make yourself look ridiculous by saying that "I get it" and "some people laugh at all italian youth players, and lets just buy ALL players overseas... yes. That's smart." From your comment, it;s obvious that you don't get his point.

You also said that "youth talent takes time to emerge". That's the one thing we don't have now: time. Only time will tell if he turns out to be an outstanding player. Until then, myfellow milanisti, try to relax and make peace with people who have different opinion.
That was extreme sarcasm, so obviously yes I do get his point. I don't understand what your point is about why you insist to harp on about this. Yes, I get his point... he's simply not correct in this regard. I think Abate is more than worthy to be on Milan's squad.

I'm not making any peace with him.
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Old 19-06-2008, 00:19   #5707

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You said that he's "one of the best" then Siregar disagreed. Which one of you is "correct in this regard"? NEITHER of you is correct nor wrong.

You said that before and so did I: it's TIME alone that will prove if he can live up to his promise.

Why make such a fuss about the thing that doesn't even happen yet?

I've read other arguments that you have with other members here. In some cases I disagree with your opinion, but all in all I respect you, because we can disagree without being disagreeable.

But by saying "I'm not making any peace with him" you take it too hard, and make yourself disagreeable. Try to separate someone from someone's opinion. They're two different things
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Old 19-06-2008, 00:44   #5708

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Fine. We'll see in the future.
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Old 19-06-2008, 00:50   #5709

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Enough is enough peeps, lets not turn this into a Abate debate, as we all agree that he has the tools to become a great player whether or not he acheives that depends on himself and the coach.
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Old 19-06-2008, 02:41   #5710

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btw, i dug this up.... http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_...guadagni.shtml

click on Tutti i 494 stipendi and you'll see last years wage bill for ALL of serie A.
Kaladze 4, Emerson 3.2, Jankulovski 3, Favali 2, Oddo 2, Simic 1.8, Brocchi 1.2, Kalac 1 (mil eur)

Cordoba 3, Zanneti J 3, Cambiasso 3, Julio Cesar 2.5, Maicon 2, Chiellini 0.9, De Rossi 1.75, Mancini 1.45, Vucinic 0.6, Frey 1.5, Amelia 1, Di Natale 0.65, Quagliarella 0.65...

No wonders we don't have money for transfers. We pay too big salaries, to some players.

Obviously Galiani's calculator was broken when he offered contracts
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Old 19-06-2008, 02:46   #5711

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You sound pretty sure that he'll do great for Milan but after 2 bad seasons and now after a bad euro i'd think twice before i say that the 31 years old Zambrotta will make Milan much better.
Milan fans expected the same with Ronaldo and Emerson and they got burnt.
I don't think he's done badly at all in the euro, other than the one Romania goal. In fact, I'd say he's been one of Italy's best players.

I don't think we got burned with Ronaldo. His signing was massive for half a season and was a major factor in our resurgence that year (including winning CL). Without him, I doubt we'd have got 4th never mind CL. We burned ourselves by not having enough cover for him last season, despite knowing he's injury prone.
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Old 19-06-2008, 03:36   #5712

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me too. zambro did well in the euro apart from that mistake. however signing a 31 yr old player is never a good buy, we need to plan for long term. someone can think he can last for another 3-4 years, yes it's true but it's also true that he has more chance to decline.

i would be happy if we sign him as temporary solution for about < 5m, if more than that, we paid for an overpriced player.
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Old 19-06-2008, 04:09   #5713

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Im convinced Zambro will play 2 very good seasons with Milan and he'll play then at high level. He will never paly as he used to for Lippi's or Cappello's Juve, but he'll be more then ok for us now. Even Abidal said they didnt work well phisically with Barcelona, Zambro will be ok. In Milanello drugs we trust!
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Old 19-06-2008, 05:03   #5714

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Galliani: We'll either get Adebayor or no one (Gazzetta, calciomercato etc.).
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Old 19-06-2008, 05:06   #5715

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Galliani: We'll either get Adebayor or no one (Gazzetta, calciomercato etc.).
So: Mutu is our target ...
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