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Originally Posted by Giancarlo

And players like Borriello, Antonini, Abate... these are reinforcements, not step downs. season..

Abate said, that he wants to play on a regular basis. He also revealed, that Milan and Sampdoria are currently negotiating and he can become Genoa's player soon. OFC he will go on loan to Sampa.

To add my two cents in I agree with Mr. Anonymous. If management makes a decision that we percieve to be to the detriment of the club then we should speak out. It's as simple as that. Unless you are a serie aficionado, you'd have a vague idea about players like Antonini, and perhaps a clearer understanding of others like Abate and of course everybody knows Zambrotta, Flamini and Borriello. However given the evolution of football and the acceleration of the changes themselves how are we to be able to rest our hopes on these players.

At best we can hope that they fit in and excell. However we CANNOT hope that these players who have by and large been under the radar in terms of media hype and ratings will all suddenly become superstars....especially given that they are all close to or over the age of 24.

If one were to make a list of the best players or most promising talents in the age group we have currently signed only perhaps Flamini would make it. Be honest, how many of you would have honestly gone after the players we HAVE signed? The whole Italian players last longer thing is pure hogwash to me as well because not everybody is Maldini....some players experience a DRAMATIC drop in performance past the age of 32. Gattuso seems to be declining physically (hope it's just bad form), Nesta has hinted that he may retire soon....we all know what happened with Vieri etc etc...

WE NEED UPGRADES. Barca upgraded Zambrotta to Alves because he is RATED as the best wingback in the world.....when are we going to do that? We replaced Gilardino with another player who is the same age but only now managed to score +15 goals in a season? We replaced Cafu with a player who has NEVER had Cafu's pace (Zambrotta) though being better positionally etc etc. And up to the time of my posting we have not replaced either Sheva- the most versatile striker ever OR Crespo


Meanwhile the other big clubs rightfully buy BIG NAMES because there is a greater probability that these players will fulfill or exceed their expectations. How such simple logic tends to escape so many here is simply baffling.

Thats probably one of the more well thought out, accurate analysis' i've read in a while

I took him off my ignore list because there are no hard feelings. However, there is very little accurate about it. We are getting new players to reinforce the flanks. I'm not sure if Abate will be loaned out at all, and I think he may be given playing time. We don't need a bunch of big names. We need quality players. And Alves for Zambrotta seems to be a downgrade for Barcelona. Alves is overrated.

Nesta has hinted that he may retire soon...

I remember his declarations. He said he wants to play until his 36 birthday...

Originally Posted by drucurl

Meanwhile the other big clubs rightfully buy BIG NAMES because there is a greater probability that these players will fulfill or exceed their expectations. How such simple logic tends to escape so many here is simply baffling.

You are always right with the whole argument, except that i still don't buy this big name argument. Because at the end of the day, the level of play is so high that who plays at which position can make little difference (and correct me if I'm wrong).

I don't think Russia has a particularly strong team this year in UEFA, but they did marvelously. I honestly think that we have put too much assumption into the fact that bringing players like Alves will make Milan strong. Yes, there is a higher proability, but isn't that what Barcelona thought they did when they purchased Zambrotta, only to realize that Zambrotta couldn't perform because, (WHAT?!), he is home sick?

Your other favorate example is Torres: Yes he is amazing and I have seen his pace. He may have helped us solve the problem with pace (though I thought Pato also did well so far) but did at the end of the day he won nothing this year with Liverpool. I sincerely hope that he will next year, as I'm not doubting his ability. I'm merely pointing the assumption here that buying this 'obvious' target may well be invalid. If, for example, a team is already full of attacking players, then it doesn't make sense to buy another one (I'm not saying Milan). Real Madrid is a good example.

The question is whether we buy a player who can fit into what the current milan system is. Believe it or not, Milan's current system is created by Ancelotti, who probably is in a better position to decide which position will fit who in anything. He can make wrong judgment, but so do we. What makes us think that our judgment is always more accurate.

Alves may be a good purchase, but how is Zambrotta ever be bad? It's an upgrade for Barcelona because Zambrotta will never perform well for them. But it's also an upgrade for us because Zambrotta is >>> Cafu at this moment of time. There can be multiple reasons why Milan didn't buy Alves.

Remember, if YOU (or rather, WE) think Alves is an obvious choice, then what makes you think that the management don't know it, given that they have been in this business for over N years?

If it's just so simple as a matter of paying the money and get the player (like how Real Madrid actually did without much planning), then the end result can ONLY BE failure.

Whether the management and the coach is making the right judgment...... that's another matter... All I am saying here is that it can only be a lot more complicated than what we are seeing here.

And we tend to be fooled by the totally unreliable media.

Originally Posted by acmilan24.com

I remember his declarations. He said he wants to play until his 36 birthday...

And people ewill claim that he is too old, trust me, after he made a mistake or two.

And we should buy players like Chiellini.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

We are getting new players to reinforce the flanks. I'm not sure if Abate will be loaned out at all, and I think he may be given playing time.

Abate will be loaned out. He said he wants to play in club, which will ensure him regular perfomances. Apparently Milan is negotiating with Sampdoria.

We must remember that we brought back Luca Antonini. He can play on left midfield but also marked down good performances as left back (like in match Inter-Empoli 1-0)

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

And players like Borriello, Antonini, Abate... these are reinforcements, not step downs. Like it or not, we can't sign superstars for every position. That's just not possible. We have to settle for maybe 2 superstar signings this season..

I'm really hesitant to think that Borreillo, Antonini, and Abate are reinforcements. I still think that selling Gila and getting Borreillo is a pure mistake. The same thing is going to happen to Borreillo like it happened to Gilardino. We already ruined Gilardino, so why not keep doing it?

Originally Posted by acmilan24.com

Abate will be loaned out. He said he wants to play in club, which will ensure him regular perfomances. Apparently Milan is negotiating with Sampdoria.

We must remember that we brought back Luca Antonini. He can play on left midfield but also marked down good performances as left back (like in match Inter-Empoli 1-0)

Proof? I see no reason why Abate should not be kept as a reinforcement. The only place I've seen mention of Abate and Sampdoria was on Tribalfootball... and that's hardly a source.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I'm really hesitant to think that Borreillo, Antonini, and Abate are reinforcements. I still think that selling Gila and getting Borreillo is a pure mistake. The same thing is going to happen to Borreillo like it happened to Gilardino. We already ruined Gilardino, so why not keep doing it?

I simply can't agree here. I think Borriello is far better positionally than Gilardino. Gilardino is an absolute disgrace. Why won't they be reinforcements? They are increasing the depth of squad. And the only person who ruined Gilardino was Gilardino.

I think Borriello is going to be totally different than Gilardino attitude wise.. I think he may have some passion to play for Milan.

Originally Posted by Jeff

And people ewill claim that he is too old, trust me, after he made a mistake or two.

Maybe... but on the other hand look at Maldini, who is nearly 40. He makes mistakes (sometimes) however people don't notice it.

Originally Posted by Jeff

And we should buy players like Chiellini.

Michele Canini perhaps. His agent told recently that in one year time Canini will move to Milan or Juve. For me it's great news, because he's one of the bigggest talents of Italy's defense.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Proof? I see no reason why Abate should not be kept as a reinforcement. The only place I've seen mention of Abate and Sampdoria was on Tribalfootball... and that's hardly a source.

I don't know if I can...
http://www.acmilan24.com/content/view/5223/55/

This is Abate's statement on my polish page.
"Sampdoria? I know that the two sides are in contact. Shortly the meeting between Milan and Sampdoria should be held". (...) "I'm looking for a club, which will allow me to play regularly"

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

I simply can't agree here. I think Borriello is far better positionally than Gilardino. Gilardino is an absolute disgrace. Why won't they be reinforcements? They are increasing the depth of squad. And the only person who ruined Gilardino was Gilardino.

I think Borriello is going to be totally different than Gilardino attitude wise.. I think he may have some passion to play for Milan.

Its only your think/prediction, no fact you gave there. The fact is Gila was better than Boriello when Gila came here.

I dont want to talk about Gila again as he is already Fio player but saying Gila is disgrace is totally not clever!

Originally Posted by acmilan24.com

I don't know if I can...
http://www.acmilan24.com/content/view/5223/55/

This is Abate's statement on my polish page.
"Sampdoria? I know that the two sides are in contact. Shortly the meeting between Milan and Sampdoria should begin". (...) "I'm looking for a club, which will allow me to play regularly"

Perhaps that is true... but the only way I see that happening is if we can get something in return from Sampdoria.