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Old 23-06-2008, 16:31   #6346

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abate should go on loan, i dont see him making any impact here.

and to me alves is better than zambro, but zambro is also great. As far as antonini goes, i have never seen him play, but i am willing to give him a chance.
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Old 23-06-2008, 16:32   #6347

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Its only your think/prediction, no fact you gave there. The fact is Gila was better than Boriello when Gila came here.

I dont want to talk about Gila again as he is already Fio player but saying Gila is disgrace is totally not clever!
Right. That was my opinion. Meaning when I said "I think". Gilardino was a disgrace to Milan and as far as I'm concerned he can't play in a big team like Milan.

You need to understand when someone states their opinion on a matter.
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Old 23-06-2008, 16:37   #6348

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I simply can't agree here. I think Borriello is far better positionally than Gilardino. Gilardino is an absolute disgrace. Why won't they be reinforcements? They are increasing the depth of squad. And the only person who ruined Gilardino was Gilardino.

I think Borriello is going to be totally different than Gilardino attitude wise.. I think he may have some passion to play for Milan.
Gilardino is a disgrace only after he comes to Milan. In fact, and I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES, why Gilardino actually did not fail the first year he is here at Milan. I'm not going to repeat that. Go find it in the gilardino thread. I give clear explanation why Gilardino didn't fail in his first year, and why subsequently he failed. Saying that he is the only person ruining himself is baseless and almost scandulous. I don't ever think anyone will agree with you here in that statement, because we still wonder who ever provides service to Gilardino these days.

Wait, that sounds like Luca toni who scored no goal in EURO2008. Doesn't that sound familiar?

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Borreillo is far better than Gilardino? No joke; I didn't see Borriello this year (I trust you did follow Geona every game), but before that he is absolutely awful. You can never compare Gila with borriello during the time they first came.

having said, I'm not saying that Borreillo is hopeless, but I'm not optimistic.

Gilardino has no passion to play for MIlan?

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=67497

There is a difference between being shy and being passionate.

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Old 23-06-2008, 16:37   #6349

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Right. That was my opinion. Meaning when I said "I think". Gilardino was a disgrace to Milan and as far as I'm concerned he can't play in a big team like Milan.

You need to understand when someone states their opinion on a matter.
I do understand, thats why i stress it. its only your opinion without facts. Your bashing (even he is already not MIlan player) is ridiculous. Let him go freedomly. what ever he is, he's done someting to Milan.

You should read his letter to Milan and all Milan fans, if you havent.
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Old 23-06-2008, 16:39   #6350

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I do understand, thats why i stress it. its only your opinion without facts. Your bashing (even he is already not MIlan player) is ridiculous. Let him go freedomly. what ever he is, he's done someting to Milan.

You should read his letter to Milan and all Milan fans, if you havent.
I'm not necessarily bashing him, but I just didn't like the fact he did not play with passion for Milan when he was given many chances to do so. Especially with the injury to Inzaghi earlier in the season.

My opinion without facts? My opinions are based on what has happened.

While I wish him the best of luck, he did NOT perform with passion in Milan. Maybe because he had his heart elsewhere and Fiorentina was that club.
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Gilardino is a disgrace only after he comes to Milan. In fact, and I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES, why Gilardino actually did not fail the first year he is here at Milan. I'm not going to repeat that. Go find it in the gilardino thread. I give clear explanation why Gilardino didn't fail in his first year, and why subsequently he failed. Saying that he is the only person ruining himself is baseless and almost scandulous. I don't ever think anyone will agree with you here in that statement, because we still wonder who ever provides service to Gilardino these days.
You know what? I STAND BY MY STATEMENTS AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE BACKING DOWN. Not in a hundred years.
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Right. That was my opinion. Meaning when I said "I think". Gilardino was a disgrace to Milan and as far as I'm concerned he can't play in a big team like Milan.

You need to understand when someone states their opinion on a matter.
And you need to understand that when you state an opinion, you have at least some forms of argument.

I can say, "ACMILAN1983 is a stupid poster (sorry dev ), AND THAT"S MY OPINION". That doesn't count. It's not like it's your opinion and you can say anything.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that "it's my opinion and I can say whatever I want". At least not in this forum. We value posters who speak with sense, not just MY OPINION. Your opinion, and thus your reasonings, may differ from mine, and that's fine. But saying that "it's my opinion and I can say whatever you want" is not treasured here.

And you'll find yourself with plenty of enemies pretty soon. Our forum is different from R&B: you can go there and there is a greater degree of freedom there since you can really say whatever you want. MM is a much smaller community that treasures each other's opinion THAT IS well argued, or at least tried being argued.
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And you need to understand that when you state an opinion, you have at least some forms of argument.

I can say, "ACMILAN1983 is a stupid poster (sorry dev ), AND THAT"S MY OPINION". That doesn't count. It's not like it's your opinion and you can say anything.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that "it's my opinion and I can say whatever I want". At least not in this forum. We value posters who speak with sense, not just MY OPINION. Your opinion, and thus your reasonings, may differ from mine, and that's fine. But saying that "it's my opinion and I can say whatever you want" is not treasured here.

And you'll find yourself with plenty of enemies pretty soon. Our forum is different from R&B: you can go there and there is a greater degree of freedom there since you can really say whatever you want. MM is a much smaller community that treasures each other's opinion THAT IS well argued, or at least tried being argued.
I never said anyone was stupid. But I find it utterly ridiculous you are ganging up on me when I stated my own damn opinion, which is based on the last few years. I am making an argument, what does it look like?

I frankly do not care if I make enemies. I'm tired of people here who complain about everything when it doesn't go their way. Give it a rest, many things in life don't go your way.

I'm certainly not going to sit here, sugarcoat my opinions and arguments because some people don't like them.
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You know what? I STAND BY MY STATEMENTS AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE BACKING DOWN. Not in a hundred years.
No body ever asks you to back down your opinoin. Dru has always said that R99 is the greatest footballer in the world. Most of the time I don't agree with him. And he is still around and people treasure him.

You can have your own opinion too, but you have thus far fail to justify why Borriello is a replacement over Gilardino. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. I don't mind if you claim things like "Gilardino has been awful in front of the goal". That's true, too, and you can use that as an argument.

So far i have seen nothing from your post that indicate so. Writing in capital letter wont' make your opinion any stronger.
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No body ever asks you to back down your opinoin. Dru has always said that R99 is the greatest footballer in the world. Most of the time I don't agree with him. And he is still around and people treasure him.

You can have your own opinion too, but you have thus far fail to justify why Borriello is a replacement over Gilardino. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. I don't mind if you claim things like "Gilardino has been awful in front of the goal". That's true, too, and you can use that as an argument.

So far i have seen nothing from your post that indicate so. Writing in capital letter wont' make your opinion any stronger.
How is that a fact? How is your second paragraph possibly fact? You're simply stating opinion too with no reasoning. You are completely stating utter opinions about Gilardino being better than Borriello. I gave my reasons why I think Borriello is better... he has better positional sense and has the passion to play for Milan. This is what I've seen.

I'm getting really irritated right now.
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i dont want gila or borrielloso can we just compromise and dump marco too!
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I frankly do not care if I make enemies. I'm tired of people here who complain about everything when it doesn't go their way. Give it a rest, many things in life don't go your way.

I'm certainly not going to sit here, sugarcoat my opinions and arguments because some people don't like them.
Nobody asks you to sugarcoat your opinions and your arguments, and nobody wants to make enemies with you. Acting like you don't care wouldn't help anything anyway.

Just like no one has really answered me why Gilardino's first year is not a failure. I keep asking people to attack my assertion, but no one did. I have a valid reason. I haven't seen yours (besides it's your opinion). I'm not saying that you are WRONG, I'm just saying that if you bring up a point you better think about why you think that's a point.
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I say we keep Borriello, and acquire two more strikers. I'm furious because some people are claiming that I think Borriello would be enough for everything.
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Nobody asks you to sugarcoat your opinions and your arguments, and nobody wants to make enemies with you. Acting like you don't care wouldn't help anything anyway.

Just like no one has really answered me why Gilardino's first year is not a failure. I keep asking people to attack my assertion, but no one did. I have a valid reason. I haven't seen yours (besides it's your opinion). I'm not saying that you are WRONG, I'm just saying that if you bring up a point you better think about why you think that's a point.
And you better understand I don't care what Gilardino did his first season. His problem was he lost focus. That's why beyond his first season he was not so successful. I wish him the best of luck, however, I'm not about to apply to the same judgments to Borriello, and nor should you. That's why I think you're just in the wrong here.
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How is that a fact? How is your second paragraph possibly fact? You're simply stating opinion too with no reasoning. You are completely stating utter opinions about Gilardino being better than Borriello. I gave my reasons why I think Borriello is better... he has better positional sense and has the passion to play for Milan. This is what I've seen.

I'm getting really irritated right now.
1) Gilardino scored 24 goals in TWO seasons, top scorers. Gilardino played and contributed when he played in the world cup, assisting Del Piero in the second goal and scoring the first goal against USA. He also hit the post against Germany.

Borreillo? A flash in a season, brought to EURO2008 and played NO minute.

2) Borreillo also came on sub as MIlan a few season ago, and was awful. He couldn't control, he couldn't score, he couldn't do ANYTHING.

3) Borriello has no CL experience. He hasn't scored a goal in CL. I don't know if he has better position sense, so that I'll leave you justified.

4) I already inform you why Gilardino has same levels of passion to play for Milan.

Here are at least 4 solid reasons why Gilardino is better than Borriello, compared when they first came here. Maybe Borriello is a reinforcement, but I tend to remain skeptical rather than absolute.
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