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Old 23-06-2008, 16:52   #6361

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1) Gilardino scored 24 goals in TWO seasons, top scorers. Gilardino played and contributed when he played in the world cup, assisting Del Piero in the second goal and scoring the first goal against USA. He also hit the post against Germany.

Borreillo? A flash in a season, brought to EURO2008 and played NO minute.

2) Borreillo also came on sub as MIlan a few season ago, and was awful. He couldn't control, he couldn't score, he couldn't do ANYTHING.

3) Borriello has no CL experience. He hasn't scored a goal in CL. I don't know if he has better position sense, so that I'll leave you justified.

4) I already inform you why Gilardino has same levels of passion to play for Milan.

Here are at least 4 solid reasons why Gilardino is better than Borriello, compared when they first came here. Maybe Borriello is a reinforcement, but I tend to remain skeptical rather than absolute.
I don't see how you can possibly state any of these. Borriello has to be given a damn chance, and I think he's improved vastly since he was younger. Vastly. I've seen him playing for Genoa several times and that's why I think Borriello will be better for Mlian than Gilardino.

Be skeptical all you want. I'm going to give the guy a damn chance. I bet you, if he can't prove himself he'll be loaned out again in December.
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Old 23-06-2008, 16:52   #6362

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And you better understand I don't care what Gilardino did his first season. His problem was he lost focus. That's why beyond his first season he was not so successful. I wish him the best of luck, however, I'm not about to apply to the same judgments to Borriello, and nor should you. That's why I think you're just in the wrong here.
His problem was more than he lost focus. Not caring his first season will be a mistake because that's an indication of how Ancelotti builds his system, and why in such a system players like Gilardino, and unforutnately likely for Borreillo, is going to fail.

Fine with me; no one is really passing judgment on Borriello here; I maintain that I'm just skeptical about him. I hope he'll bring luck to MIlan.
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His problem was more than he lost focus. Not caring his first season will be a mistake because that's an indication of how Ancelotti builds his system, and why in such a system players like Gilardino, and unforutnately likely for Borreillo, is going to fail.

Fine with me; no one is really passing judgment on Borriello here; I maintain that I'm just skeptical about him. I hope he'll bring luck to MIlan.
You bet you are passing judgment on Borriello... Borriello has to be given a chance, but you keep saying he's going to fail. Maybe if you say that enough it'll happen. Excuse me for having a bit more optimism.

I just about had enough of this! Whatever. I'm done arguing with people here today! I'm out of here.
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I don't see how you can possibly state any of these. Borriello has to be given a damn chance, and I think he's improved vastly since he was younger. Vastly. I've seen him playing for Genoa several times and that's why I think Borriello will be better for Mlian than Gilardino.

Be skeptical all you want. I'm going to give the guy a damn chance. I bet you, if he can't prove himself he'll be loaned out again in December.
Do you acutally need me to quote the number of goals Gilardino scored for Parma?

Do you acutally need me to show you the youtube video that he scored in WC? I dont see how you can't possibly see this.

I'm not sayign that borreillo shouldn't be given a chance; I'm simply saying that I'm not hopeful about him being the next big thing.

You rae right that Milan needs to bring in at least another striker, otherwise our season is doomed to failure.
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Do you acutally need me to quote the number of goals Gilardino scored for Parma?

Do you acutally need me to show you the youtube video that he scored in WC? I dont see how you can't possibly see this.

I'm not sayign that borreillo shouldn't be given a chance; I'm simply saying that I'm not hopeful about him being the next big thing.

You rae right that Milan needs to bring in at least another striker, otherwise our season is doomed to failure.
Where did I say I care? Gilardino scoring for Parma? Yes I know all about that. Does it look like I care? I think the Gilardino of Parma is different of the Gilardino of today.

I'm fed up with this. Stop putting words into my mouth.
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You bet you are passing judgment on Borriello... Borriello has to be given a chance, but you keep saying he's going to fail. Maybe if you say that enough it'll happen. Excuse me for having a bit more optimism.

I just about had enough of this! Whatever. I'm done arguing with people here today! I'm out of here.
I say I'm not hopeful. I haven't even seen anything I said that says he shouldn't be given a chance.
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Old 23-06-2008, 16:57   #6367

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I don't see how you can possibly state any of these.
Gentleman, you say you can't see how I possibly state any of these, one of which is that Gilardion scored 24goals for Parma, a goal in WC; while Borriello had not besides a marvelous season last term.

And you say you don't see how I can possibly state it.

That's why I say it's up there in the stats.

I didn't put any word in your mouth. You said it, just a few minutes ago and I have quoted you saying that here.

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Old 23-06-2008, 16:59   #6369

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Gentleman, you say you can't see how I possibly state any of these, one of which is that Gilardion scored 24goals for Parma, a goal in WC; while Borriello had not besides a marvelous season last term.

And you say you don't see how I can possibly state it.

That's why I say it's up there in the stats.

I didn't put any word in your mouth.
You keep rehashing that point over and over again. Gilardino of today I don't think is the Gilardino of Parma. I'm not sure how he would do for Fiorentina... I said I wish him the best.

I KNOW ABOUT HIS STATS OF THE PAST. And I know about HIS STATS OF THE LAST FEW SEASONS. Big difference.

Borriello is a bit of a late bloomer in my opinion. You don't know what I said.
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Old 23-06-2008, 17:00   #6370

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I'm not necessarily bashing him, but I just didn't like the fact he did not play with passion for Milan when he was given many chances to do so. Especially with the injury to Inzaghi earlier in the season.

My opinion without facts? My opinions are based on what has happened.

While I wish him the best of luck, he did NOT perform with passion in Milan. Maybe because he had his heart elsewhere and Fiorentina was that club.
As much as I hate to do this I am forced to agree with Giancarlo Gila can say what he wants. I respect him greatly for his parting message but the Gila I SAW on the field had no passion. I see it in virtually everybody else...but not him....It's just my silly opinion but his mind seemed elsewhere.

That said he was FAR better than Borriello. However Borriello NEVER got the chances Gila did.....WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT GILA HAS PROVEN THAT HE CAN SCORE CONSISTENTLY THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR BORRIELLO
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Of course i know what you said. What you say is not that difficult to understand. I hope he is a late bloomer, just like Luca Toni!

Don't ever think that other people don't undersatnd what you are saying. We actually all do but it depends on how you put it down.
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As much as I hate to do this I am forced to agree with Giancarlo Gila can say what he wants. I respect him greatly for his parting message but the Gila I SAW on the field had no passion. I see it in virtually everybody else...but not him....It's just my silly opinion but his mind seemed elsewhere.

That said he was FAR better than Borriello. However Borriello NEVER got the chances Gila did.....WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT GILA HAS PROVEN THAT HE CAN SCORE CONSISTENTLY THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR BORRIELLO
Your personal hatred against Gila makes you inegliable to join the debate here .

Maybe Borriello will start scoring next year and firing up like Luca toni, who knows...
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No body ever asks you to back down your opinoin. Dru has always said that R99 is the greatest footballer in the world. Most of the time I don't agree with him. And he is still around and people treasure him.
world?? he's the best in the universe
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Dru If you make your mind that he has no passion you'll EASILY find instances where you think he's shown no passion. If for example I thought Kaka had no passion for the shirt I'd take examples of games versus teams where he doesn't even look like trying. I could do the same for most of our players actually. Hence I don't think you could make such a statement.

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Old 23-06-2008, 17:07   #6375

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If you make your mind that he has no passion you'll EASILY find instances where you think he's shown no passion. If for example I thought Kaka had no passion for the shirt I'd take examples of games versus teams where he doesn't even look like trying. I could do the same for most of our players actually. Hence I don't think you could make such a statement.
self-fulfilling prophecies?

Yes I agree, IN FACT R99 doesn't seem to have shown a lot of desire and passion for Milan either...
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