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Old 24-06-2008, 06:43   #6436

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I think Eto'o is better than Adebayor... Adebayor is extremely wasteful... Eto'o just seems more refined on the pitch, and knows how to perform in high pressure situations (like with the CL final... ironically Barca vs Arsenal several years back... as he was the one who scored Barca's equaliser).
Agreed and Eto'o has wonderful control and first touch....these days he is trying to shoot from distance which is always welcome too And I agree the Adebayor is wasteful....but then again so were many great strikers
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Neither is Nedved. I don't know why the people are so cruel and call them divers.
I know!!! Nedved and Pippo suffer from a rare disease called HCGS (high centre of gravity syndrome) and people keep making fun of them
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:01   #6437

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Excellent posts Tony29! Didn't quote the for the sake of space...but well thought out, and I definately agree:

This is a chance for us to assess these players, and integrate them into the team....or not
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:19   #6438

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Agreed and Eto'o has wonderful control and first touch....these days he is trying to shoot from distance which is always welcome too And I agree the Adebayor is wasteful....but then again so were many great strikers
I agree with you guys, but we have to remember that Adebayor is still young. I think his wastefulness can be rectified.
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Absolutely, but not more than 1 or 2 youngsters are in Kaka/Pato level and Ancelotti knows that he can't find 11 such players just like he knows that some less talented players will need to play.

It's not only Ancelotti who does that. Everyone in Italy (top 4 clubs) does the same thing.
If you think about it, Juve did the same. Ranieri gave a chance to all the youngsters but he gave them 6 months or 1 year because Juventus, just like Milan, can not afford to continue with an experiment for more than a year.
Criscito failed and he was loaned in January, Nocerino failed and he was sold to Palermo, Palladino failed and he's about to go to Genoa, Molinaro was bad and Juve are looking for a new LB..
Chiellini impressed in his first season as Cb and he's in Juve to stay.

All Ancelotti needs to do is to give the youngsters a chance. Then it's up to them if they'll take their chances or not.
Kaka and Pato did so they stay. Pirlo did it, Gattuso did it and they became all time greats.
Gourcuff didn't and he's out, just like many before him.
Paloschi did take his chance. If you keep him and he plays great as he did last year then maybe Milan won't even need a new attacker and you save +30m which can be used for other areas.

I'm saying that this is a perfect time when Ancelotti can afford to give a chance to more youngsters.
I agree 99.8% with your comments.

I only disagree about the amount of 30m supposed to be saved.

To sign Eto,at least till yesterday, Milan needed 120m. 40m to Barcellona + 10M nett yearly for a contract of 4 years = 40M + 40M tax.
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:37   #6440

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Absolutely, but not more than 1 or 2 youngsters are in Kaka/Pato level and Ancelotti knows that he can't find 11 such players just like he knows that some less talented players will need to play.........

.......I'm saying that this is a perfect time when Ancelotti can afford to give a chance to more youngsters.
Great post (didn't quote the full thing for space saving) but I'm not sure I agree.....To me the only place to truly test out the younger, eventual fulltime squad members is either the Copa Italia OR the Uefa Cup - two tournaments the fans are less demanding..........to do this in the league could be potentially suicidal....In fact it happens to Arsenal a lot with their younger players who start of in blazing hot form but lack the experience to take them through the long haul.

And NO I don't think that Milan needs or could buy 5 superstars this or any season.....but from a fan's perspective it's been a long time since we've gotten a star let alone a superstar in a necessary position. After our disappointments this year now is the time to do what is PROVEN to work.....i.e. assemble a team of proven stars and mount a title challenge....NOT to try out wildcard player who may or may not ever make the grade.

Our time to experiment was LAST season.....after we won the CL.....with the recent success fresh in mind the fans wouldn't mind a season of necessary rebuilding and the testing out of the young players...especially Milan fans who are known for their reasonableness.

Finally Juventus' re-building programme was in no way similar. You guys were playing decidedly inferior opponents. So even if a player sucked bigtime.....in the GRAND scheme of things...i.e. your title/promotion objective it didn't matter. Milan is STILL in SerieA with a reinforced Roma/Inter/Juve and Fiorentina waiting to push us back in fifth again. Now's not the time to take risks.
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:46   #6441

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Yup...its been ages since we bought a star..Pato isn't a star, so he doesn't count...year before...hmmmm let's see...yup...as usual, u r spot on dru...

We haven't bought a star since Rivaldo.
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:56   #6442

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Yup...its been ages since we bought a star..Pato isn't a star, so he doesn't count...year before...hmmmm let's see...yup...as usual, u r spot on dru...

We haven't bought a star since Rivaldo.
If you pick at one thing I say in isolation without keeping it in the context it was said it does not strenghten your argument Warro...It just shows your lack of proper debating skills....... Honestly I expected better from you...especially as I consider you my friend...but whatever...I'm dru the outcast of mm

AND NO PATO isn't a star. Not yet. I don't know any player since I've been watching the game who is a star after half a season. He is a fantastic promise. He is potentially a SUPERSTAR but he isn't a star as yet. Feel free to pick at my first sentence too if making a mockery of me delights you. Yes I recognise I have done the same but never like this to you Warro.

And Rivaldo came on a free didn't he? I could be wrong.
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Old 24-06-2008, 07:59   #6443

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Yup...its been ages since we bought a star..Pato isn't a star, so he doesn't count...year before...hmmmm let's see...yup...as usual, u r spot on dru...

We haven't bought a star since Rivaldo.
I know I will be excoriated for saying this, but Gila was at least a starlet when we bought him.

Now he is a fading star. *sigh*

EDIT: But judging from Dru's response, you were being sarcastic.
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Milan: perso Adebayor, riaffiora Eto'o
Il camerunense: "Sarò io a decidere il futuro, non il Barça"

Dal Togo al Camerun. Il vento africano potrebbe spirare forte il prossimo anno su Milanello. Sfumato Adebayor, nell'aria c'è di nuovo Eto'o. E' lo stesso attaccante del Barcellona, liquidato a parole nei giorni scorsi dal nuovo tecnico catalano Guardiola, a lanciare messaggi di apertura.

"Se il Barça pretende che io prenda una decisione in questo momento non ne sarei in grado, ma di sicuro non sarà il mio club a decidere per me. Il mio futuro lo stabilirò io, come sempre è stato nella mia carriera". Insomma un invito alle milanesi (già perché nel discorso rientrare anche l'Inter) a farsi avanti.

E il Milan dunque potrebbe tornare alla carica. La vicenda Adebayor sembra infatti giungere ad un lieto fine, ma solo per il Barcellona. Proprio i catalani sono destinati ad essere la nuova squadra dell'attaccante dei Gunners. L'affare dovrebbe andare in porto sulla base di 31 milioni di euro, che finiranno nelle casse dell'Arsenal. Al giocatore contratto di 5 anni, a 6 milioni a stagione.


Looks more like a mastermind game between the top clubs than calciomercato!!!!!!

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can anybody translate that please?
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At least what the contain of that news. It's very nice if anyone who posts news in any language except english, can aslo tell the story in that news.
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can anybody translate that please?
Yes, it roughly says that since Milan have lost Adebayor, they are renewing their pursual of Eto'o.

Eto'o says that he always decides his own future.

Also, Barca are going to offer Ade 6 million a year and a 5 year contract, while giving Arsenal 31 million euros for his services.
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I dont want Eto'o..I did not like way he rejected us last year when we wanted him..to him Milan are just any ordinary club and not a great one, he does not like appreciate us enough like the rest of the footballers (I'm judging this on interviews I've seen).. and if he really wants 6m per season then to hell with him. I wouldnt be happy to see that he is earning more than Pirlo/Nesta/Pato/Rino/Maldini. I also was very disappointed with his performances late last year. Ofcourse I ain't saying lets go for Adebayor (who I think is going to be a waste of money and space), but at least Adebayor wants to join Milan and only Milan (according to reports).

I'd gladly take back Sheva over those two as back in the day he was much better than them both. But it definitely would be a gamble, who knows if he could get back to his form. If the option of Arshavin opens up, I'd say lets go for it (even though I prefer us to go for Zhurkov, but it seems that we will not be getting any LBs).
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This is an interesting article...it's been beaten to death though but it's just as well:

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Calcio Debate: Milan Must Go For Drogba
AC Milan have been heavily linked with a host of top-class forwards this summer, but James Gisone argues that Didier Drogba is the man they should be going for...

With the transfer market in full swing, and plenty of deals and rumours to keep many of us occupied, one of the more interesting storylines is taking place in the red half of Milan.

Since the end of their dismal Serie A season, the Rossoneri have identified the signing of a top class striker as priority number one. The likes of Juventus, Inter, Roma and Fiorentina are in the midst of strengthening their squad further and if Milan fail to sign a top class forward, then they run the risk of being left behind by their competitors.

Newly appointed Inter Coach Jose Mourinho already has a wealth of striking talent to choose from, while Juventus added the underrated Amauri to the already prolific Bianconeri attack. Meanwhile Roma seem content to head into this season with the status quo, as their ownership situation will surely play a huge part in their transfer market activity. Even Fiorentina can boast a more reliable strike force than Milan with Mutu, Gilardino, Pazzini, and Osvaldo.

What is clear is that a big club such as the Diavoli need to have a forward that will strike fear into their opponent. The current group of Pato, Inzaghi, Borriello, and Paloschi is strong but is it one that will help lead them to the Scudetto?

I personally don’t think so.

Undoubtedly Alexandre Pato is a fantastic talent and will have a very good season but at the age of 19 he cannot be counted on to lead the charges. Paloschi on the other hand is still a developing and raw talent, which means that, either he will be loaned out or reduced to playing insignificant minutes. Marco Borriello is a risk, and with no risk there is no reward. The Rossoneri have nothing to lose by bringing him back after a fantastic season with Genoa as he could definitely be a late bloomer. But also remember that at one time this was a player who was considered the crowned jewel of the Milan youth system, but he never really capitalized on that potential and ended up being banned for a year after testing positive for drugs.

My personal favorite of the group is Pippo Inzaghi. This player is the master poacher and he works extremely well with Kaka but at the age of 34 he no longer has it in him to handle the wear and tear of an entire season or to play a full 90 minutes. I’m sure there will be many that will point to his goal scoring rampage at the end of the season last year as evidence that firstly he should’ve be in this Azzurri squad, and secondly he could handle the main striking duties for Milan.

But ask yourself, is he really the player you want to pin your hopes on? What do you do next when he inevitably gets injured and misses extended periods of action? His role will most definitely be crucial to the Rossoneri purpose next season. But his role should be as a game changer; the guy who comes on with 20 minutes left to play and rips through the opponents defence with his darting and well-timed runs.

A big, strong, powerful striker is exactly what this team lacks at the moment, a player with the ability to play with his back to goal and hold the ball up for his teammates. Someone who will create space for Pato and Kaka to work their magic in the open field, while he gets into the box to get on the end of a cross or a through ball.

There have been many names thrown into the mix as Samuel Eto’o, Emmanuel Adebayor, and Didier Drogba have all been linked to the Rossoneri and have expressed their desire to wear the Diavolo jersey. Eto’o is a fantastic player but his slight frame, recent legal troubles, and injury history make him a risky acquisition especially for the transfer fee required and annual wage cost.

Adebayor had a great season but I couldn’t help but notice how many chances he squandered this season. He really could have scored 40 goals had he not wasted so many clear-cut opportunities. But my biggest fear with the Togo international is the fact that he is commanding a huge fee for just one very good season. That is exactly what the Rossoneri have in Borriello and surely they don’t need to take another unnecessary risk.

Drogba is the logical choice and one that will provide immediate return on investment. His appetite for winning is as strong as ever and with the window quickly closing on him, there is no better time than now to move to most successful club in the world.
Could you imagine a line-up with Drogba, Pato;Kaka; Pirlo, Flamini, Gattuso;Zambrotta, Maldini, Nesta, Jankulovski? Would there be a better line-up in Italy than that? How about Europe
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What about defenders? i dont see us being link with any defenders.
What about players to cover for Pirlo and Seedorf?....these player cant be expected to play 90 minutes every game this season again...
Why Simic and the other waste players arent donated to the salvation army yet?
I think milan is taking the same road that Leeds took...
i personally dont like how them two big headed dudes are running the club...they need to adapt to the changing world of football business...things have changed a lot since they took over Milan... other than Kaka we dont hav a player who is marketable...
We want to spend little and earn big...putting Ladas to race with Ferrari...BS.
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