Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...746526,00.html
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...746189,00.html

Looks like Ade has some Hamletian angst.

Some of the comments from Arse fans below the story in the attached:

cyganophile
"take that ridiculous 32 million and buy someone like david villa"

cyganophile
"32 million!!! that'll do nicely thanks"

nickyboy7
"Adebayor can do one as far as i'm concerned. He's had one decent season for us, and is probably the least skillful player in our starting 11. £30m seems like a bargain, as long as Mr Wenger actually gets to use some of the money. And we all know that no player who leaves Arsenal is ever as good again. Look at Anelka, Henry, Cole etc. Cash in now i say! "

Even Arse fans think we are overspending on Ade...

Originally Posted by Russo-Neri

Some of the comments from Arse fans below the story in the attached:

cyganophile
"take that ridiculous 32 million and buy someone like david villa"

cyganophile
"32 million!!! that'll do nicely thanks"

nickyboy7
"Adebayor can do one as far as i'm concerned. He's had one decent season for us, and is probably the least skillful player in our starting 11. £30m seems like a bargain, as long as Mr Wenger actually gets to use some of the money. And we all know that no player who leaves Arsenal is ever as good again. Look at Anelka, Henry, Cole etc. Cash in now i say! "

Even Arse fans think we are overspending on Ade...

I was looking at the same thing. Those fans are hoping that we buy him for that price so that they could get David Villa and he turns out to be their personal Torres.

We are throwing a ton of money at Arsenal for this guy.

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

I was looking at the same thing. Those fans are hoping that we buy him for that price so that they could get David Villa and he turns out to be their personal Torres.

We are throwing a ton of money at Arsenal for this guy.

But still I'd rather overspend on a player than do nothing at all. We need help bad in order to compete for Serie A next season...

Originally Posted by Russo-Neri

But still I'd rather overspend on a player than do nothing at all. We need help bad in order to compete for Serie A next season...

I agree to a certain extent. If he was Berbatov or a more proven striker I would okay with it. But by giving this much for Ade, we are taking money away from another position that may also need attention and Ade may not perform as we would like.

But I do agree overspending is better than the alternative.

We're overpaying, but of course Arsenal fans will act as if he isn't worth it. Anything to feel better.

Galliani said that the possibility of signing Adebayor is very less and we have focussed our campaign on signing Ronaldinho, again.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=753779

Does anyone think that this (Milan going after Adebayor) is a tactic used by Galliani to make Barcelona sell us Ronaldinho for cheap? I remember that galiani had used this similar tactic against an Italian club who were unwilling to lower the price of some player we wanted. I think it was Oddo from Lazio. Does anyone think this is what is happening in the Ronaldinho-Adebayor saga?

Originally Posted by t.gianni

Galliani said that the possibility of signing Adebayor is very less and we have focussed our campaign on signing Ronaldinho, again.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=753779

Does anyone think that this (Milan going after Adebayor) is a tactic used by Galliani to make Barcelona sell us Ronaldinho for cheap? I remember that galiani had used this similar tactic against an Italian club who were unwilling to lower the price of some player we wanted. I think it was Oddo from Lazio. Does anyone think this is what is happening in the Ronaldinho-Adebayor saga?

Of course.

He did it with Gila also.

Galliani is a Drama Queen.

Bronzetti says that Milan have never given up on Dinho and he talked to Dinho last night, who reiterated his desire for Milan. Only Milan.
He then told Dinho to talk to Galliani, which he did and Dinho said 'don't believe the gossip about me. Believe the good things Kaka says."
In the end Bronzetti believes Dinho will arrive, and maybe even a goalkeeper.

tuttomercato and calciomercato.it

in the article people r posting saying we bought a great striker in borriello? since when has an overhyped 1 year wonder been considered a "great striker"

Bronzetti (tgcom):

A week ago Milan received an offer of 100 million for Kaka'. They refused it.

I don't know about this Bronzetti character (I know who he is etc.). I think Milan would receive offers for Kaka, but come on, 100 million?

I insist we do not need Dinho + Striker. Dinho has played as support striker in his latter years at Barcelona and done extremely well there. If he comes here he'll still have the striker mentality and therefore will neglect defensive duties. We cannot have him + Kaka in the midfield because that gives us a weak midfield. This is why I count Dinho as a striker...I'm not going mad like Galliani ( Seedorf a striker...LOL). A formation like this simply won't work:

Keeper; Back 4; Pirlo, Gattuso, R10, Kaka; 2 strikers

When we played 4-3-1-2 we had Seedorf who was able to run up and down and help on both sides of the pitch. Before Giancarlo jumps on me again, YES I want to play with 2 strikers. I just count Dinho as one. Let me make it clear though that we MUST get at least 1 striker.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Actually, the Inter of the last 2 seasons and Capello's Juve were much more defensive than Milan and they always used 2 dm's in their formation.
Capello didn't start a single match without Emerson-Vieira and without his 4-4-2 consisted of 2 Dm's, 2 wingers and 2 attackers. Even more, the wingers Nedved and Camoranesi are very good in defending and Juve always had 8 players defending.
Mancini did the same thing in 2006/07 with Vieira-Cambiasso as dm's while last season on half of the matches Inter had Zanetti-Cambiasso-Chivu in midfield and apart from some 5-6 matches where they played 4-3-1-2 with Jimenez as AMC, they also played 4-4-2 all the time with only the 2 strikers not defending.

Teams with the best attack rarely win serie A, but teams that conceed less than the others almost always win the league. It happened this year also with Juve and Roma both scoring more goals than Inter but Inter had the best defense by far conceding only 26 goals, eleven goals less than the second best defense, Juve's. It happened in 2006 when Milan scored 13 gols more than Juve but conceded much more than them etc etc.

In Europe it doesn't work that way and a defensive 4-4-2 won't bring you anything, but in Italy it seems to be the only winning combination lately.

actually i disagree with you. If you look at serie A last 5 years. Team thats scored most or 2nd most goals has won league. Last year inter had 3 less goals than juve/roma.... but that did go down to the last day. Year before inter scored 80. Year before juve had 2nd most to milan... there also, they won barely (3 pt diferential).. could keep going.
But my point more so is you need to know you can score consistently. something our 4-3-2-1 with current personnel cannot do.

The juve team you speak of did play alot back, but they could alll go forward. emerson (then) and viera are ALOT more adepth offensively than gattuso and ambrosini. Nedved and camorenesi's offensive prowless is well documented. (Obviously i dont need to speak of your forwards)... i get your point...but i'd rather see milan play w/ 2 strikers and 2 AMs, atleast to start...

even when nedved and camorenesi drop to defend, they never really did hard defending. They werent consistently dropping to the box etc. more just along the wings. There is no reason ronaldinho, kaka, seedorf shouldnt be able to do this....

And more so on the 2 DM point, even though pirlo isnt one, he is deployed as a DM so we r playing w/ 3. The milan teams with sheva typically deployed only gattuso, pirlo next to them a more box to box mf like seedorf. Then kaka/rui costa...sheva/inzaghi upfront. so much more dynamic.

I dont see why everyone is concerned on keeping the 4-3-2-1 tactic. It won us a champions league on luck, and kaka playing out of his mind. Its never even come close to giving us consistent league form

http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.a...enutoId=753728

sweet another quality LB for them... they have chivu, maxwell and possibly zirkov. we have janku, favalli, antonini....

Zirkov is a auper player, in my mind there is not doubt about that. I was warned about that player before but I didnt believe my friend. Looking at Zhirkov ( I can never spell it right ) its like looking at Serginho playing LB al over again...

And Im still keeping fingers crossed for Ronaldinho, we cannot let his slip away.