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Old 01-07-2008, 16:27   #7351

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Could we get back to the transfer season please?
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:30   #7352

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Well i guess technically Galliani is right, with the squad we have we can challenge for the Scudetto ... but we wouldn't be anywhere near winning it.

I wonder why he feels the need to keep saying these statements, it just makes him sound ignorant to everything and a bit of a fool.

Regarding Man City, we can also offer Ronaldinho UEFA Cup football Not to mention half the Brazilian squad it seems, so i don't see them as main advantages for Man City.
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:30   #7353

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Heheh...guys I just want to say that you should not get your hopes up. I don't think we will get a forward this summer. We will probably stick with Paloschi. I also don't think we will get any reinforcements of note. Our management are wont to complain, and that's about it. Inter and even Roma are spending money to buy or retain players (look at how much Roma is paying De Rossi). We can mock Moratti all we want, but he cares deeply about his team. Look how often he speaks to the press. He is a man with Inter on his mind. Berlusconi's enthusiasm for Milan seems to be on the decline. He rarely says anything of real substance (this also goes beyond football), and when he does say anything about Milan it is either false or stupid. When the going gets tough, our management blames the fiscal pressures, which are undoubtedly a factor, but our management's laziness is the biggest factor. Were they rational human beings and not morons, they would see that we needed reinforcements a while back. Now all teams know we are desperate and so they are hiking the prices up.

In short, don't expect too much from this Milan this summer. Just see what happens and support this team. Hopefully we can win the Scudetto not because of our transfer campaign but in spite of it.

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Old 01-07-2008, 16:35   #7354

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I'm not sure why Boriello isn't welcomed here. Looking at things objectively we have Ronaldo who is (no offence Dru) regularly injured or out of shape and therefore doesn't offer us much ... who has been replaced by a guy who's just scored 19 league goals. I can't see that as anything else but an improvement to the squad.
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:35   #7355

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hmmm hassan, it sounds like you too believe our managment is being complacenet and content w/ its current position.... Man my views r in the minority
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:38   #7356

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Heheh...guys I just want to say that you should not get your hopes up. I don't think we will get a forward this summer. We will probably stick with Paloschi. I also don't think we will get any reinforcements of note. Our management are wont to complain, and that's about it. Inter and even Roma are spending money to buy or retain players (look at how much Roma is paying De Rossi). We can mock Moratti all we want, but he cares deeply about his team. Look how often he speaks to the press. He is a man with Inter on his mind. Berlusconi's enthusiasm for Milan seems to be on the decline. He rarely says anything of real substance (this also goes beyond football), and when he does say anything about Milan it is either false or stupid. When the going gets tough, our management blames the fiscal pressures, which are undoubtedly a factor, but our management's laziness is the biggest factor. Were they rational human beings and not morons, they would see that we needed reinforcements a while back. Now all teams know we are desperate and so they are hiking the prices up.

In short, don't expect too much from this Milan this summer. Just see what happens and support this team. Hopefully we can win the Scudetto not because of our transfer campaign but in spite of it.

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I think things will happen this season and I think we will get the players we need. I'm more confident. We should loan Paloschi out... and I heard he is going to be. I've seen we already have a few reinforcements as it stands... and two great signings... Zambrotta and Flamini... so I don't see why we shouldn't be able to get more.

I'm confident a forward will be signed.
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I'm not sure why Boriello isn't welcomed here. Looking at things objectively we have Ronaldo who is (no offence Dru) regularly injured or out of shape and therefore doesn't offer us much ... who has been replaced by a guy who's just scored 19 league goals. I can't see that as anything else but an improvement to the squad.

I agree, but the problem is that Galliani seems to be content with just Borriello.
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:43   #7358

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Guys, it's not that Galliani is complacent.
The boss told him that the money are x, and he can't spend more than that.

Berlusconi would make an exception just in case a great champion (R10) gets free, and frankly 40 M for Adebayor are too much.
EPL and Spanish league are too expensive shops for us. This is the sad truth.

Many say that Berlusconi is not honest, but complain he's too honest!! Fininvest finances all Milan activities. Berlusconi's societies are under strict control of Italian judges. He must have perfect balances, that's why he won't spend big money.
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Old 01-07-2008, 16:57   #7359

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Heheh...guys I just want to say that you should not get your hopes up. I don't think we will get a forward this summer. We will probably stick with Paloschi. I also don't think we will get any reinforcements of note. Our management are wont to complain, and that's about it. Inter and even Roma are spending money to buy or retain players (look at how much Roma is paying De Rossi). We can mock Moratti all we want, but he cares deeply about his team. Look how often he speaks to the press. He is a man with Inter on his mind. Berlusconi's enthusiasm for Milan seems to be on the decline. He rarely says anything of real substance (this also goes beyond football), and when he does say anything about Milan it is either false or stupid. When the going gets tough, our management blames the fiscal pressures, which are undoubtedly a factor, but our management's laziness is the biggest factor. Were they rational human beings and not morons, they would see that we needed reinforcements a while back. Now all teams know we are desperate and so they are hiking the prices up.

In short, don't expect too much from this Milan this summer. Just see what happens and support this team. Hopefully we can win the Scudetto not because of our transfer campaign but in spite of it.

Forza Milan sempre!
Hasan, much of what you wrote above is unfair, as Berlu cannot take an active interest in the club while he is the PM of Italy.

As Gio has stated, we have $x to spend, and only if someone really special becomes available, will we spend more.

I refuse to believe an allegation of laziness, when you cannot define their working hours, etc.

The mistakes have been made, they are trying to rectify them...so while I understand your angst...stop
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I think we have two options for our summer mercato

A) Drogba Ronaldinho Zapata

B) Drogba Ronaldinho Ferrari Boruc

I would choose option A
Not only I would rather have option B...
I would rather even have Option B without Ferrari if we were to get Drogba, R10 and Boruc.

It is easier to find a good defender than find a good GK.

I am not sold on Zapata yet, as I am on Boruc.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:07   #7361

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I will report you what has been reported by some reliable journalists that follow Milan on daily basis (Franco Ordine- Il Giornale).
He said that Don Silvio hasn't the same enthusiasm as 20 years ago, and after so many years of success, he wants a new challenge: keep winning with perfect balances.
He would spend foolish money only of players that fuel the fire of his fantasy and enthusiasm, such as R10.

I think this is one of the most close to reality backstages of our management in recent years.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:10   #7362

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I will report you what has been reported by some reliable journalists that follow Milan on daily basis (Franco Ordine- Il Giornale).
He said that Don Silvio hasn't the same enthusiasm as 20 years ago, and after so many years of success, he wants a new challenge: keep winning with perfect balances.
He would spend foolish money only of players that fuel the fire of his fantasy and enthusiasm, such as R10.

I think this is one of the most close to reality backstages of our management in recent years.
I am still confused here. Is it more from Berlusconi to make Milan to a club with balanced finances or is it more from Galliani's initiave to start a new Milan while the boss is not giving money just like he did in the 90's?
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:21   #7363

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Berlusconi's sons and daughter told him that Fininvest (Berlusconi's holding) can't afford to pay over an x number of millions per year.
Mind that Silvio puts a lot of money in Milan still nowadays.

If we want to talk about market seriously, we should count that Milan's wages are very high, and some major investments have been made in recent years (Pato).
The problem with such strict deadline is that you can't miss a single investment, and here you explain why Galliani prefers to sign proven players instead of unproven ones.

Many criticise Galliani, but the board did a great job recovering 10 M (tag price) + 2.5 M (wage paid by spaniards) for Oliveira.
Oliveira costed us 17 M, but after this summer that wrong investment has been sorted out, cause after 2 years the fiscal value of Oliveira has fallen to 12 M (the player value, just like general goods, decrease with time).
Basically, we've repaired to a potential minusvalence with Oliveira's signing. Now the investment made is equal to the moneys we've got back.

The challenge is to renew the team within a couple of season and keep it competitive with less money.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:25   #7364

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Can I ask publicly why GIO is not a moderator anymore???? or GIO why did you stop being a mod???
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Can I ask publicly why GIO is not a moderator anymore???? or GIO why did you stop being a mod???
It doesn't matter. The other mods do a great job. Long story short, i couldn't guarantee the same committment as before and resigned.
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