Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

As brazilian, I hope the best for Thiago Neves...but not in Milan, Giancarlo. I realy can´t see T. Neves shining in Serie A type of game.
Before him, and of the same role, I will go for Wagner(of Cruzeiro) any day. More, before T. Neves, if I´m in charge, box-to-box players like Hernanes, Ramires(Cruzeiro) and Arouca(Fluminense) would be my frist choice.

Btw, with this new EU rule, we can´t let Barça take Hernanes...and he´s a realistic(money wise) option for our club.

Regarding Diego Cavalieri, you´re right. His grandfather is Italian, and the talk in Brazil is that a team already bid for him. It´s fact, because he was take out of the travel to Belo Horizonte(city) for next game of Palmeiras this Sunday for precaution. I also hope the misterious team is Milan...

Well you obviously you know more about this than I do. I do not follow Brazilian football closely enough to be an expert. I know about Hernanes, but I hear he has a deal with Barcelona or another club. I know I don't want Barca to take Hernanes... but... I have heard nothing about Milan and Hernanes as of late.

Diego Cavalieri might be our best bet. I did hear that a team did bid for him... but I was hoping you would know who this mystery team is... I just don't want to see him going to Liverpool. Besides that, we have extensive network of scouts in Brazil...

But I must connect that he wants to play in Italy... it's just the obvious choice for him...

Edit: Slightly to a different topic... I hear Barcelona has been rejected for Adebayor, but Adebayor has refused to take current wages from Arsenal (even the doubled ones to 60,000 pounds a week)... and Arsenal may be forced to auction him off at a lower price than they originally intended.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Well you obviously you know more about this than I do. I do not follow Brazilian football closely enough to be an expert. I know about Hernanes, but I hear he has a deal with Barcelona or another club. I know I don't want Barca to take Hernanes... but... I have heard nothing about Milan and Hernanes as of late.

Diego Cavalieri might be our best bet. I did hear that a team did bid for him... but I was hoping you would know who this mystery team is... I just don't want to see him going to Liverpool. Besides that, we have extensive network of scouts in Brazil...

But I must connect that he wants to play in Italy... it's just the obvious choice for him...

Edit: Slightly to a different topic... I hear Barcelona has been rejected for Adebayor, but Adebayor has refused to take current wages from Arsenal (even the doubled ones to 60,000 pounds a week)... and Arsenal may be forced to auction him off at a lower price than they originally intended.

In Brazil only 2 teams are linked to Hernanes: Milan and Barça. As you said, the Barça rumour is more strong, and they already bid for him, but São paulo wants more money.

But since we have Leonardo, who knows? One thing is for sure, the way Milan(managment, fans, legends like Maldini) treats Brazilians does not pass disregarded...and if we enter in the race for Hernanes...plus, with Leonardo conections, I have no doubt he will be a Milan player.

Regarding Cavalieri and the mystery team...maybe it´s true Palmeiras signed a contract compromising not to disclose the team, because until yesterday, no one in Brazilian press can guess for where Diego Cavalieri goes...

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

In Brazil only 2 teams are linked to Hernanes: Milan and Barça. As you said, the Barça rumour is more strong, and they already bid for him, but São paulo wants more money.

But since we have Leonardo, who knows? One thing is for sure, the way Milan(managment, fans, legends like Maldini) treats Brazilians does not pass disregarded...and if we enter in the race for Hernanes...plus, with Leonardo conections, I have no doubt he will be a Milan player.

Regarding Cavalieri and the mystery team...maybe it´s true Palmeiras signed a contract compromising not to disclose the team, because until yesterday, no one in Brazilian press can guess for where Diego Cavalieri goes...

Yeah, and not only that Milan has a bit of a history of doing business with Sao Paolo and in Brazil in general. We'll definitely have a better chance at getting a rising star. I really hope we get Hernanes... because we need another attacking midfielder... our Brazilian connections are deep and I even hear Cafu is a new scout in Brazil for us.

Well as far as Cavalieri... I hate drama... and it would just kill me to see him sign for Liverpool. He's the kind of keeper we need... and I'm sure he'll be cheaper than Boruc...

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Well as far as Cavalieri... I hate drama... and it would just kill me to see him sign for Liverpool. He's the kind of keeper we need... and I'm sure he'll be cheaper than Boruc...

not only Liverpool but also Valencia, Lazio and Viola. but with Brazillians connection in Milan i put my hope high like star in the sky ^^

Originally Posted by MLM

not only Liverpool but also Valencia, Lazio and Viola. but with Brazillians connection in Milan i put my hope high like star in the sky ^^

Ugh. Well Lazio is in dire need of a keeper but they have very limited funds... The Viola have a great keeper. If he goes to Viola he'll be second string after Frey. Liverpool... I don't know if they have many Brazilian connections. I'm not sure about Valencia, they should be in a financial crisis worse than any other. It just seems he'll get that first place position sooner at Milan than any other club...

So if Milan tries, Milan will get.

I'm sorry to all you guys about my post,i'm new to this site and i hope did not disrespect anyone.

I should of said Milan should go in a different direction in buying players.I just don't like buying players that have already achieved all they can with a big club like Barca.

When you look at the number of players that move from one big club to another big club it just doesn't really workout like everyone likes.At those ages of decline it really doesn't work.

Buying players at clubs smaller than your own seem to be the formula of success.

Dutch ,Brazilian,French ,Argentina and Portuguse Leagues.For ever established player that came out of those leagues at a young age and moved to a bigger league and succesed ,i can name you 10 flops that move from a big clubs to another big club.

There is a reason for this,players that play in these League have a dream of making it to Clubs like Milan,Inter,Real,Barca,ManU and etc.That's where they can be superstars and achieve everything they have ever dreamed of as Footballers.

Originally Posted by Roche13

I'm sorry to all you guys about my post,i'm new to this site and i hope did not disrespect anyone.

I should of said Milan should go in a different direction in buying players.I just don't like buying players that have already achieved all they can with a big club like Barca.

When you look at the number of players that move from one big club to another big club it just doesn't really workout like everyone likes.At those ages of decline it really doesn't work.

Buying players at clubs smaller than your own seem to be the formula of success.

Dutch ,Brazilian,French ,Argentina and Portuguse Leagues.For ever established player that came out of those leagues at a young age and moved to a bigger league and succesed ,i can name you 10 flops that move from a big clubs to another big club.

There is a reason for this,players that play in these League have a dream of making it to Clubs like Milan,Inter,Real,Barca,ManU and etc.That's where they can be superstars and achieve everything they have ever dreamed of as Footballers.

Older players offer experience. But we are not against getting younger players... I want the Palmeiras keeper Cavaliere and perhaps Hernanes as was said... we want a bit of both... Zambrotta for example can offer great experience for our team...

I can name you many successes that have moved from big club to big club.

It's all about risk.

All i am saying is Ronaldinho is a big risk with how much Milan will pay for him and how much they will pay him for the next 3-4 years.
Giancarlo,you said earlier that Milan will discipline Ronaldinho if he comes.And why would they want to invest in such a player who will most probably be the highest paid player on Milan.
And a player that you said should be a sub to Kaka.
I know there are alot people that protest against the club,but it has to go both ways.
I protest against Ronaldinho for those reasons and other ones that i stated earlier.

Just look at Dida,who has become a major problem with his salary.If Milan had not extended his contract in 2007 then a player like Boruc or any other Goalkeeper would of arrived.
Milan is stuck with him and can't do anything about it.Nobody wants him and with that contract Milan will pay him out the nose with that mistake.

Originally Posted by Roche13

All i am saying is Ronaldinho is a big risk with how much Milan will pay for him and how much they will pay him for the next 3-4 years.
Giancarlo,you said earlier that Milan will discipline Ronaldinho if he comes.And why would they want to invest in such a player who will most probably be the highest paid player on Milan.
And a player that you said should be a sub to Kaka.
I know there are alot people that protest against the club,but it has to go both ways.
I protest against Ronaldinho for those reasons and other ones that i stated earlier.

This is why I'm an advocate for a loan deal with Ronaldinho. Do you even read what I write? There should be an option in the loan deal to buy his full contract at a later date, if he is successful. Minimal investment, great deal... and a chance for him to get back on his feet. I protest against people like you.



And trust me, I've been a huge skeptic of Ronaldinho, so apparently you don't read my posts.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

This is why I'm an advocate for a loan deal with Ronaldinho. Do you even read what I write? There should be an option in the loan deal to buy his full contract at a later date, if he is successful. Minimal investment, great deal... and a chance for him to get back on his feet. I protest against people like you.

You can forget about Dinho loan deal, He will never accept it, his no COCO,borriello, u take him see how he plays and than decide for his future.

Dinho`s profile of players do not let Clubs decide for them,they decide for themselfs.(If it was for barca,he`d be on his way to MAn City by now, higher fee and less competitive team)

Barca want to get rid of him at any cost, they just dont want to repeat the Rivaldo story once again,thats why they are such hardass about his price,but eventually they will balance arround 25 wich is fair enough.


P.s I`d be very comfortable with Ronaldinhos condition 4 years ago with MilanLAb being the best in the world,but with recent failures such Ronaldo, Vieri, and poor condition of JAnku,ODDO,Pippo....I`m kinda sceptical

Originally Posted by kastriot

You can forget about Dinho loan deal, He will never accept it, his no COCO,borriello, u take him see how he plays and than decide for his future.

Dinho`s profile of players do not let Clubs decide for them,they decide for themselfs.(If it was for barca,he`d be on his way to MAn City by now, higher fee and less competitive team)

Barca want to get rid of him at any cost, they just dont want to repeat the Rivaldo story once again,thats why they are such hardass about his price,but eventually they will balance arround 25 wich is fair enough.


P.s I`d be very comfortable with Ronaldinhos condition 4 years ago with MilanLAb being the best in the world,but with recent failures such Ronaldo, Vieri, and poor condition of JAnku,ODDO,Pippo....I`m kinda sceptical

Respectfully disagreed. Ronaldinho knows Milan will only accept him if he shapes up. We cannot have another Ronaldo on our hands.

And Pippo is doing just fine... Janku was doing better in the Euro Cup apparently... skeptical about what exactly?

From all the stuff I read sofar, the loan deal came out from goal.com, pls correct me if I am wrong about this. And as most here knows goal.com=one of the least reliable source. On top of that, what makes anyone here thinks Dinho will agree on a loan move? He is not some unproven player out of nowhere, he will never agree to any loan move.
Yes, Milan will spend probably 20M to 25M on him and case close, he will have like 1 good season and disappear again. But that one season will sure allows Milan to challenge for the Title. maybe even win it with a bit luck, and get back to CL. On top of that, Milan will be the focus in the soccer world again, as they sign Dinho and Dinho and Kaka becomes the greats Duo since Maldini and Baersi. It will be great for marketing for MIlan and Series A, b/c more people will follow Milan and the league.

Liverpool aurait acquis l’arrivée du gardien de but de Palmeiras (L1 brésilienne) Diego Cavalieri (25 ans). L’opération tournerait autour de 4 millions d’euros. (source: Bandeirantes)

Liverpool would have bought Diego Cavalieri (25yo), GK from Palmeiras. The price would be about 4M € ...

Ronaldinho is ready to play for Milan if his agent uses numbers and percentages to speak about his transfer to Milan !!

Drogba would try to come to Milan and Inter (Scolari doesn't want him in his team) ... but if it's a fail, he will claim to come back to Marseille.