Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Real Madrid did not win anything as far as international titles are concerned. Milan is doing the same thing as Bayern and is investing in the squad (as we see at this point in time). We need one or two big signings and we will be all set. This isn't disgraceful by any sense of the word.

Since when only international titles count? I personally believe a domestic league is more difficult to win as it requires consistency throughout the season.

I think rt9 got some point, if there's a time when we need to splash big money, now is the time. After our winning against Inter Galliani said that with a complete squad we can beat any team. The thing is you can't expect the whole team to be fit for about 50 games a year. We can't wait until one of our key players like Kaka or Pirlo before making important signing. We had bad experience signing player in such a hurry like RO.

I agree that we need one or two big signings and we will be all set. But we all heard about these big names rumours coming down from Galliani for at least two years, so it's understandable that some people, including me, become skeptical

Well I'm more confident we will get something, and if anything finishing in 5th was a bit of a wake up call for management. I actually think it was fine if we finished in 5th, because there would have to be changes made. Imagine if we finished in fourth, and bought no one to this point.

So am I my friend, I'm confident that we get something. Hopefully that something is the kind of player that we need (like Dinho, Ade that Galliani has publicly claim to have interest in) , not the kind of player that we're forced to buy since the mercato is almost closed.

Originally Posted by Nalx

So am I my friend, I'm confident that we get something. Hopefully that something is the kind of player that we need (like Dinho, Ade that Galliani has publicly claim to have interest in) , not the kind of player that we're forced to buy since the mercato is almost closed.

Ronaldinho maybe. But Adebayor is way overpriced... and Arsenal may be forced to auction him off at a far lower price. Why? Because I think he doesn't want to stay... if you have a player like that, it can cause problems in the team.

Asked about the situation of Barcelona players Ronaldinho and Eto'o, Barcelona economic vice president Ferran Soriano has said at a press conference yesterday that the two players will only leave if an appropriate bid comes in:

Selling players is not only a technical decision, it's also an economic decision. Barcelona will only sell Ronaldinho and Eto'o if the right market price is paid. If that's not the case, they will not leave. And like the coach has said before, we will then do everything to get the best out of them.

I have a feeling that Laporta's going to survive the vote of no confidence by the skin of his teeth and shortly thereafter sell Eto'o and Ronaldinho for far less than market value

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

From an article on theGuardian/football website:



I know little about financial matters, but that kind of debt, hmmmmm....wouldn't want my club saddled with that.

€190M?

I am sure Platini isn't liking that either...and I wonder how much longer clubs will be allowed to play in the UCL with that sort of debt?

Milan's debt is a fraction of that amount...£20M or some such?

What did Barca win last year? Same amount of trophies as Milan right?

Curse management all u want...but if our debt can remain so relatively small..I can only b thankful to them.

As for the mercato....its barely started...and we will reinforce, more likely than not in the attacking department...so all the concern, fretting, moaning, etc etc....chill...

We have a financially stable and solvent club...and that's enough for me at this point.

I will worry about the silverware, or lack thereof, in May 2009....or thereabouts.

1 Barca might not have had silverware but they weren't out of the title race by winter.

2 Barca comfortably qualified for the CL

3 What do you think Platini can do vs the ex-members of the g14?? Make no mistake the big clubs have the power just look at the disgraceful way real does buisness without even a harsh word from fifa

4 Other highly inebtted clubs (ManU, Real Inter) have been stockpiling titles and none of whom seem to be on the verge of a crash

Originally Posted by drucurl

1 Barca might not have had silverware but they weren't out of the title race by winter.

Indeed....tragic wasn't it?

Originally Posted by drucurl

2 Barca comfortably qualified for the CL

Also true, and wont/cant argue with that either...yet another tragedy.

Originally Posted by drucurl

3 What do you think Platini can do vs the ex-members of the g14?? Make no mistake the big clubs have the power just look at the disgraceful way real does buisness without even a harsh word from fifa

He can, and will implement his policy whereby clubs with high debts....(not sure of the threshold)...will not b allowd int the UCL...regardless of their league finish...just look at the changes he has already made to the structure of the UCL, to see that he has acted, against the wishes/prefrences of the ex-G14 clubs.

Madrid haven't acted any different from how Man U behaved when they were tryin to sign Hargreaves...what's good for the goose....

Originally Posted by drucurl

4 Other highly inebtted clubs (ManU, Real Inter) have been stockpiling titles and none of whom seem to be on the verge of a crash

a crash doesn't always loom on the horizon...it can happen in the blink of an eye....and overnight, Man U...Liverpool...etc etc can all find themselves falling...and not being able to get up.

Look at this scenario:

Club X has a wealthy (read billionaire owner) and he dies suddenly. His children have no interest in running the club, and decide to sell....

How difficult/easy would it be to find a buyer if the club's debt is say, £20M, as opposed to £120M?

Further...I just personally prefer not to have debt over my (club's) head...

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Club X has a wealthy (read billionaire owner) and he dies suddenly. His children have no interest in running the club, and decide to sell....

How difficult/easy would it be to find a buyer if the club's debt is say, £20M, as opposed to £120M?

Further...I just personally prefer not to have debt over my (club's) head...

This has happened numerous times in Italy before... not that the owner dies, but decides to just leave... and trying to sell the club is futile... thus since the owner decides to have no part in it, the club is forced to liquidate itself.

I really don't want that to happen to Milan.

Luca Cattani (market expert) : " The real problem with Adebayor signing is that Arsenal ask for a whole payment within September, while Italian clubs usually split it in several times over a few years ".

Originally Posted by Giovanni

Luca Cattani (market expert) : " The real problem with Adebayor signing is that Arsenal ask for a whole payment within September, while Italian clubs usually split it in several times over a few years ".

jesus, is wenger a drug dealer? needs all the cash upfront. its not like arsenal need it. if im not mistake, arsenal has more money than anyone in EPL (aka.... no debt). god wenger is obnoxious

Slow day on the market eh.... as it stands right now this is whats going on:

- We wanted Ade but now he is apparently too expensive for us according to Galliani
- Now we are trying again for Ronaldinho (rumour has it that Monday is when we meet Barca)
- Sheva is not in our sights only unless he gets Abramovic to give us a free loan
- Braida said alot of things about Veloso and so did Veloso and his agent..they said they will meet after the Euros..Veloso then was linked for Juve for the past few days. Well if we are looking at a creative central midfielder like that - that means we are looking for a Pirlo alternative I guess..they never really got anyone since Vogel left..and come to think of it, what a bad bad, BAD deal we made with Betis to sign Oliveira.. 14m + Vogel..and we never even replaced him...what a poor deal that turned out to be

And other news,
- Kalac seems confident that he will be a starter next year inspite of Abbiati's arrival and Dida's presence
- Brocchi - whats going on with him, is he staying is he leaving?
- Paloschi is definitely going on loan it seems, just to who?
- Simic - the least used player in the last 3 years..we should use him in a deal that could bring Boruc here
- Emerson - i'm willing to give him another chance as long as he's in shape
- Boriello is not good enough..Oliveira scored much more goals than Boriello and he still is our player, why is that we bring Boriello after one season with 18 goals and we sold Oliveira?

Originally Posted by Milano84

jesus, is wenger a drug dealer? needs all the cash upfront. its not like arsenal need it. if im not mistake, arsenal has more money than anyone in EPL (aka.... no debt). god wenger is obnoxious

LOL. You sometimes I think about that... lol... he's obnoxious... and quite frankly pisses me off. We better get Diogo Luis Santo before he gets him. Apparently he doesn't even use the money he sells for wages... Arsenal players are always complaining about that...

Hitmann, indeed Simic may be sold to Celtic... and we could include him in a deal for Boruc...

Oliveira only scored what? 3 goals? We got a good deal selling Oliveira too...

hes just every terrible french stereotype rolled into 1 satanic being.

-sad too, because i do enjoy watching arsenal play. only epl team with any sort of technique, skill

Why does no one mention Stankovic? He seems avaialable. Except striker, I do think we need also creative midfielder/attacking midfielder. I dont know about his salary with Inter but my big doubt the tranfer (to Milan) to happen is (again) recent Milan-Inter relationship.

I think, Stankovic can play almost in every position in midfield area. He could also play in left CM to accompany Pirlo and Flamini/Gattuso in midfield to support Kaka and the two strikers in 4-4-2 formation IMO. The advantages signing him could be his age (will be 30 yo this September), ?injury prone? and ?his salary?.

I just read Ranieri comments and I really want to know Juve fans' opinion about Stankovic, the advantage and disadvantage for Juventus if Juve sign him (Yes, Tony29! It's you )