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Old 06-07-2008, 12:34   #7816

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ease up giancarlo. stop acting in denial. you have clearly lowered your standards, and im defending the fact you shouldnt have to. for pages upon pages you speak of eto'o, schweinstagger, zapata.....which is fine... i like them all. our arguments were really over personal preferece of highly rated payers..... but still all highly rated players.
Here we go again. Stop making judgments on what I have said. I'm still in favor of Zapata, and would really like Eto'o, but Eto'o wants to go to Inter I hear... NOT Milan. That's sad, but true and I've accepted that long ago. I think we should get some young Brazilian players... I do want Schweinsteiger... but I dont' think Bayern will let him go. Realistic.

I'm being realistic.

What I want is different than what could or would happen.

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diogo i cant make an opinion on, BUT NEITHER CAN YOU. you havent seen him play, just watched a few youtube clips, i m same. i think he could be good, but he might not also. i am skeptical, as i watch some south american football, and his name has never really came up. but on ny level he is not eto'o. ferrari, hes ok but i dont rate him as any sort of difference maker, and thats my issue. we need a few difference makers. not back ups. back ups r fine when ur irst 11 is set. but our first 11 still has a couple holes.
I'm basing my opinions based on what I hear and what I think. I'm not skeptical because young Brazilians can rise out of nowhere and we know that quite well. I have seen Portuguesa play once on TV... but that was it. I'm not saying he is on the level of Eto'o. But I'm being realistic... he's young, talented... so why not?

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my point is, clearly this whole saga has forced us o chang our views and lower our standards... where as before we'd only want great players.... now people seem content with the ok players. Athletic clubs boom and bust, but to not spend is just insuting to fans. sometimes you hav to spend to get out of a hole. what gets me is how dont we have money?!? we have sold more than we've bouht last few seasons. whose mismanagement was that? why hould the fans have to suffer
I'm not lowering my standards and I'm not changing my views. I have a whole variety of players I want to see play for Milan... but I've always maintained that only some of them will be bought (and some of them already have been bought... in fact 3 out of 7 players I wanted have been bought).

That's pretty darn good.

This is a business and there is a bottom line. We can't run ourselves into the red and we need to be careful. We need to spend carefully which we are doing. But to say we are not spending... that's false... and a travesty.

Our starting squad is quite good and solid, and frankly I think we need more depth (you call it back-up, I call it depth).

For one, stop trying to manipulate me in thinking the way you do and demanding the resignation of management. I will NOT think that way.

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Old 06-07-2008, 13:22   #7817

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Enough of this petty stuff...

There is a VOTE going on today in Barcelona, and if it succeeds, we may as well kiss our hopes for Ronaldinho goodbye.

Have your fingers crossed.

Correction: If the vote succeeds in voting out Laporta.

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Old 06-07-2008, 14:36   #7818

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Hi every body
I want to ask , if flamini and zambrotta are presented to the fans ?
and what are their numbers ?!


another little silly question !!
what happened with RONALDINHO DEAL ?

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Old 06-07-2008, 14:48   #7819

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Not sure about flamini and zambro number yet. I don't think they are officially unveiled.

Ronaldinho deal is not done.
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:03   #7820

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First 22% of votes are counted, and according to this preliminary results my assumption seem true.

LAPORTA STAYS

Result it very very tight (37 % to 62 %) so it remains to be seen how would it end up until all votes are counted

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Old 06-07-2008, 16:05   #7821

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it looks like Lapora lost the election and we can say goodbye to R10 if thats is true

I wonder what Galliani will say now, I guess like this "we wanted him but he is not on sale anymore' ahahaah
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:21   #7822

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60% of votes are counted, and according to this preliminary results

61% are against Laporta

37% with him

two thirds of the votes should be in favour of the motion (so against the current board)

so if Laporta gets 66.7 he is out, but I hope he wins
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:25   #7823

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it looks like Lapora lost the election and we can say goodbye to R10 if thats is true

I wonder what Galliani will say now, I guess like this "we wanted him but he is not on sale anymore' ahahaah
The quorum to be officially removed is 66,6 %, so if he stays within that quorum he will remain Barca president.
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:28   #7824

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Laporta is very close Survives Censure Vote

Vote counting 82%

still 60% against him and 37% in his FAVOUR
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:30   #7825

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He will be very lucky to stay on....wonder what Berlu and Galliani have up their sleeves?

This strategy to "wait and see" with Laporta and the board was extremely risky, and looks likely to backfire...

I can't wait to see what happens next.
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:31   #7826

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Horrible, I won't watch next season if that es wears our jersey.
I can't of one thing that would make me not watch Milan.
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:32   #7827

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Galliani To Milan Fans: Stop Complaining

Galliani, however, believes that these protests are ridiculous, particularly when you consider that the likes of Marco Borriello, Gianluca Zambrotta and Mathieu Flamini have already been signed this summer

Despite failing to qualify for the Champions League, the club is strengthening the squad and increasing the wages. This means we’ll be �35m in the red without Berlusconi’s help

The fans should be happy, as all we’d need to do in order to wipe out or debts is sell Kaka and Andrea Pirlo. Instead they won’t move, so if that’s not a show of love for this side, I don’t know what is

Ronaldinho is not in Pep Guardiola’s plans for the new season, so that cuts the cost down a little, but the problem is his wages,” he explained
In order to meet those demands we’d have to pay next to nothing for the player himself. It all depends on Barcelona.

I can say that Ronaldinho rejected an offer from Manchester City, who were proposing twice as much as Milan

I can't believe I'm reading this. He says WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL BECAUCE KAKA AND PIRLO AREN'T SOLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We really have sunk to the new levels. We're not Cagliari for god's sake !!!
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Old 06-07-2008, 16:36   #7828

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So Giovanni...its final? Laporta stays? Galliani must have lost like 20Kilos sweating that one out!
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Vote counting 93%

still 60% against him and 37% in his FAVOUR

Laporta's win look like very close
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I don't know.
Anyway, we can't blame the management on this specific deal, because Galliani is trying to avoid to get ripped off by Barca. Barca management has the worst position in the deal because Guardiola officially said that Ronaldinho will be sold.
In this situation it is only matter of time, and every day is in favour of Milan.

This is a classic Yearbook management case, in which Milan has the strongest contractual power. I think Milan management is acting very sensibly in this scenario, and that's what i would do if i were them.
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