Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by Milano84

yeah its a double edged sword. it'd be nice to get them sooner for preseason training... but the later it goes, the cheaper it'll be. I think we know which will prevail. I just want dinho signed.... I want him and kaka to start developing chemistry... also so i never have to see seedorf in a trquarista role again

Throw Pato in there for an entire season, along with "Drogba" (maybe) that's a lot of offensive potential!

Originally Posted by Milano84

yeah its a double edged sword. it'd be nice to get them sooner for preseason training... but the later it goes, the cheaper it'll be. I think we know which will prevail. I just want dinho signed.... I want him and kaka to start developing chemistry... also so i never have to see seedorf in a trquarista role again

I'm with you on that one... and I think once Ronaldinho is in better shape... Kaka and Ronaldinho would be killer on the field... but I still want one more real CF...

When a club sells its players, they aim high and usually get a compromise on that.

As far as Leonardo, I think he's the one who is working behind the scenes, and Galliani simply is a spokesman... though I'm sure Leonardo is telling him to keep his mouth shut right now.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

No way ... he's a player who was one of the best in young teams but he will just be a good/average player, one who will always play for some mid-table teams (or mid/high, but not the best teams) ...

Well you're French so I'll trust your opinion....but I'm guessing the Liverpool Scouts must have seen something in him I mean he is creative,fast, strong, has a good shot....I'm not sure how clinical he is as I haven't been watching him recently but what's wrong with him??

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

You're really overestimating the others, and you are underestimating our own youth academy. Nocerino? LOL. Are you joking me?

No im not Joking, hes an Under 21 International who just got called up the Olympics and was a regualr starter at the begining of Juves season and did quiet well. Again im pointing out facts. While Nocerino gets called up to the olympics, Paloschi is nowhere to be seen.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

And Paloschi has technique and speed that makes the other players you named look poor.

Then why isnt he being called up, or praised by any other Managers, Pundits or players in Serie A besides Galliani?

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

I mean come on... Molinaro? The guy deserves to be playing for a Serie B team... he's no good.

I agree hes nothing special but as of right know is the only promising Italian Left back.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Milan has produced far more than Inter and a similar amount to Juve, if not more.

Not Recently.

Again i admire all your Optimism, but some Critisicm is due. Its a forum and you cant just jump on everyone who critisizes. U expect everyone to be all jolly and praiseworthy?

Most people are realistic and just as praise is due when a club wins a big competition, critiscim is also due when a team doesnt perform well. If u can conjugate something good out of Milans season which just passed, then u have below average expectations of a club who just won the biggest futbaling competition last season.

Originally Posted by Kerlz

No im not Joking, hes an Under 21 International who just got called up the Olympics and was a regualr starter at the begining of Juves season and did quiet well. Again im point out facts. While Nocerino gets called up to the olympics, Paloschi is nowhere to be seen.

Then why isnt he being called up, or praised by any other Managers, Pundits or players in Serie A besides Galliani?

PAloschi has been called up for Italy's u-19 team and according to wikipedia (take it as you wish) he has had 6 appearances with 2 goals. He has made international presences... but he's just 18 years old. He'll be better. Nocerino is overrated.

Nocerino is also 23 years old... and Paloschi is 18.

I agree hes nothing special but as of right know is the only promising Italian Left back.

No he's not.

There are better then him.

Again i admire all your Optimism, but some Critisicm is due. Its a forum and you cant just jump on everyone who critisizes. U expect everyone to be all jolly and praiseworthy?

Most people are realistic and just as praise is due when a club wins a big competition, critiscim is also due when a team doesnt perform well. If u can conjugate something good out of Milans season which just passed, then u have below average expectations of a club who just won the biggest futbaling competition last season.

When criticism is based on inaccurate statements then I have a right to counter it. I'm not asking people to be completely jolly and praiseworthy.

And recently, yes Milan has produced more youth talent than either Inter or Juve. I mention some names in my previous posts.

this is true. Most people will agree fiorentina and juve have by far the most young italian talent RIGHT NOW. Cheillini, giovinco alone should seal juve. Lazafame looks promising but nocerino, molinaro arent bad. more progressed than sammarco and antonini. Fiorentina have montolivo (would LOVE him at milan), osvaldo. Infact if you're gonna sight antonini and sammarco who are both 26. you'd have to count gambarini, donadel and well.... half or fiorentinas team who r 24-26.
that being said milan does have some promise in its youth system.

From what ive read darmian is considered a highly promising defender, albertazzi is another highly rated defender in the primavera. Di gennaro is highly thought of. I look forward to watching him at genoa this season! Of course abate too. We shall see milan has invested more into its youth system in last 2 seasons than its first team.

I don't understand...

You guys are simply not naming a lot of young players in Milan... we have plenty of young players that are rising through the ranks, and people have barely named any of them. And look at Fiorentina itself, we have had many of our former youth talents play in Fiorentina...

i'd much rather have molinaro than favalli. perhaps jankulowski too (unless he gets fit again)

nocerino instead of brocchi

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

Wow. This is where you're wrong. PAloschi has been called up for Italy's u-19 team and according to wikipedia (take it as you wish) he has had 6 appearances with 2 goals. He has made international presences... but he's just 18 years old. He'll be better than what you're stating. Nocerino is grossly overrated.

Nocerina is overrated and Paloschi isnt with his 6 caps, LOL.

And who has praised Paloschi other then then Obvious? Nocerino was sought after by many mid table clubs, I cant say the same about Paloschi. Hes no Balotelli so stop making him one. He hasnt played enough games to get all the praise ur giving him.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

When criticism is based on inaccurate statements then I have a right to counter it. I'm not asking people to be completely jolly and praiseworthy, I'm just stating you're simply wrong about Milan's youth academy. And you're wrong about Alberto Paloschi too. Sheesh, you're attacking a kid who is barely 18 years old...

And your overpraising a kid who hasnt done or proved nothing out of the ordinary.


And name me a youngster that Italy have besides Nocerino for the LB position. Since u know so many.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

I don't understand...

You guys are simply not naming a lot of young players in Milan... we have plenty of young players that are rising through the ranks, and people have barely named any of them. And look at Fiorentina itself, we have had many of our former youth talents play in Fiorentina...

perhaps we're spoiled. no1 has risen thru like paolo maldini. not really a fair standard.

The newspapers got most of you guys heads spinning in circles.I can go back 200-300pages and it seems to that alot people change every time a new name has been drop in the newspapers or media site.
I should of started a newspaper or media site,i could of been a rich man.

Originally Posted by Kerlz

Nocerina is overrated and Paloschi isnt with his 6 caps, LOL.

Again, Paloschi is barely 18 years old (he was born in 1990)... and Nocerino has had plenty of first team playing time with Juve and he's 23.

You're comparing apples and oranges, and making some very unfair comparisons. Paloschi's pace is quite superb.

And who has praised Paloschi other then then Obvious? Nocerino was sought after by many mid table clubs, I cant say the same about Paloschi. Hes no Balotelli so stop making him one. He hasnt played enough games to get all the praise ur giving him.

there has been quite a bit of praise for paloschi in the Italian media. Paloschi has also been sought after by several clubs. I never said he was a Balotelli, but he may be a great striker in the future. And your attacks and criticisms are unfair and just flat out improper.

Do you want the kid to just disappear as a talent because you seemingly don't like him because I praise him?

And overprasing a kid who hasnt done or proved nothign out of the ordinary.

I'm not overpraising anyone! NOT ANYONE. I think he has a bright future and I WILL NOT BACK DOWN FROM THAT.

Originally Posted by Giancarlo

I'm not overpraising anyone! NOT ANYONE. I think he has a bright future and I WILL NOT BACK DOWN FROM THAT.

Noone knows how good he is yet because he hasnt played regulary or done anything extrodinary besides that one goal against Siena. If he is as great as u make him out to be then in a couple years he will show signs, but as of know there is no point in overhyping him.

Giancarlo, I'm officially warning you. Asking people in the open that "Are you a juve fan" is an insult. You have done it more than once and I honestly have enough of it. You do not need to take it personally when people attack your post. Instead you go on to attack the poster.

Take this as an official warning and if you commit similar offense again in the future, it will result in a temporary or a permanent ban.

Jeff

giancarlo I'm glad you said that Paloschi is fast....I'm not that good a judge on speed....but what I do know is that speed is abhorrently absent in our squad save Pato and kaka...is he like super fast (Totti, Eto'o, Henry) or is he just reasonably fast (i.e faster than most) ?
Thanks.