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Old 08-07-2008, 18:06   #8041

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go watch "The Recruit"
PM me a synopsis, or a link to the youtube trailer....never heard of it...a Trini movie maybe?
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Old 08-07-2008, 18:07   #8042

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Italy is not England. I can't see Milan not winning anything for a decade with the same coach. In England it was possible. In Italy after a few bad games Pato was already questioned.
The pressure in Italy once the game is over is incredible. That's why only some kind of players succeed in italian football: they get the best out of them under pressure, while others get lost.

are you implying fergie doesnt win? He's won 10 out of 16 EPL titles since the premier league started. Every coach in the world would LOVE that record
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Fergie had bad time with MU, first seasons and in around 2000-20005 (I forget exactly) when MU didnt win prestigeous Cup (Premier League or Champions League) and when Arsenal and Chelsea won the leagues but Fergie didnt get even a warning from the club (in around 2000-2005) and medias didnt press him with sacking.

Compare to Carlo when he brought Milan to CL's final 2005 and made last fight in Serie A to decide the Scudetto. But what Carlo got? News about his sacking since that time!
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Old 08-07-2008, 18:19   #8044

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Fergie had bad time with MU, first seasons and in around 2000-20005 (I forget exactly) when MU didnt win prestigeous Cup (Premier League or Champions League) and when Arsenal and Chelsea won the leagues but Fergie didnt get even a warning from the club (in around 2000-2005) and medias didnt press him with sacking.

Compare to Carlo when he brought Milan to CL's final 2005 and made last fight in Serie A to decide the Scudetto. But what Carlo got? News about his sacking since that time!
dude... he won every epl title in 90's except the 97-98 season and treble in 99. he built up so much credibilty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson

read his trophies. I dont like manUtd but i respect him.
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Like Giovanni said, it's apples and oranges comparing Italy and England...Fergie is a one in a million when it comes to motivating and re-creating, and Manchester have allowed him to have time because they trust him and he has delivered. No other club allows this; if you look at Madrid, Inter, they sack managers after winning titles and CL's, it is crazy. I don't think there are many out there like him, and I don't think that there will be many after.
But just like we've had the faith in Maldini for all these years, even with injuries, bad spells, etc.., I would love for Milan to have a coach that they stick with for many, many years. It is a sign of good faith and Milan has that spirit.
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Old 08-07-2008, 19:05   #8046

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dude... he won every epl title in 90's except the 97-98 season and treble in 99. he built up so much credibilty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson

read his trophies. I dont like manUtd but i respect him.
He's underperforms beyond England... he won two CL titles in like 9 years (1999, 2008)... Carlo did that in the span of 4 years (2003 and 2007, and reaching finals in 2005).

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Old 08-07-2008, 19:07   #8047

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Glad Galliani decided to "clear the air"...yet since there is no way to satisfy allthe fans, it all actually brings a smile to my face.
Yeah no matter who you get and no matter how much you spend, you can't make everyone happy. so you might as well make most happy. Adebayor would be a better pick than Ronaldinho... if we had to get one, I'd prefer Adebayor. I would really love both, but that may not entirely be realistic.

Anyways, I'm extremely happy right now... just got a new LAPTOP... a mid/high range one for $490 brand new at Frys... now if Milan had the same shopping sense I did, wow...
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Old 08-07-2008, 19:33   #8048

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I did read on football365.com's blurb that Galliani mentioned Pavlychenko...haven't seen this anywhere else though.

http://football365.com/story/0,17033...795156,00.html
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calcio...galliani.shtml
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PM me a synopsis, or a link to the youtube trailer....never heard of it...a Trini movie maybe?
It's a movie (Collin Farrell and Al Pacino) where the this super talented recruit looks up to this agent who has accomplished everything...If you watch it you'll understand the analogy...we the fans are the Recruit....Al Pacino is the Superstar CIA Agent....the turn of events is possible in all spheres of life.....don't want to give it away I wrote it here for everybody's benefit
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Well, so it looks like it MIGHT be Dinho or Ade....I wonder which one managment prefers or will they simply go for whoever is the cheapest. After all, they're completely different players and will dictate how we play next year. Honestly, I would prefer selling Boriello and getting both.
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Well, so it looks like it MIGHT be Dinho or Ade....I wonder which one managment prefers or will they simply go for whoever is the cheapest. After all, they're completely different players and will dictate how we play next year. Honestly, I would prefer selling Boriello and getting both.
Shockingly I agree with you on that one

But I think this might be better: We may only be able to get one of those, stick with Borriello... then if Borriello does not perform, sell him in the winter transfer season... this may be a calculated risk but it should be given a chance. I'd prefer Borriello and Adebayor... then if we need to, get an attacking midfielder or another striker in the winter transfer season.
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Arsenal Ready To Sell Adebayor
Milan’s Adriano Galliani has reportedly declared that Arsenal have contacted him to discuss selling striker Emmanuel Adebayor to the Italian giants.

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Adebayor’s future has been the subject of much debate all summer with the striker flirting with both AC Milan and Barcelona whilst also refusing to rule out staying at the Emirates.

However, it now appears the end may be in sight as Milan and Arsenal look set to sit down and potentially thrash out a deal which will see the Togolese swap London for Milan.

Speaking to Antenna 3 television station, Galliani has been reported as saying: "Arsenal wrote us a letter today in which they have said that they are ready to talk to us about Adebayor.”

The Price Is Right?

AC Milan had previously been reported as saying that Arsenal’s asking price for Adebayor was too high, a factor which looked to have ruled them out of the race for the front man.

Yet, whilst this may still be factor, it appears to be the only one preventing the deal taking place, which Galliani himself acknowledged. The Milan chief said: "There is just one major problem left to overcome - the price of the player, which is going to be high."

While the price still needs to be negotiated, it appears the player has already expressed his desire to move to Milan which appears to have set the ball rolling. Speaking of the striker’s wishes, Galliani confessed: "He's said that we're the club he wants to play for. That is surely a step towards the right direction."

Adebayor scored 24 league goals for the Gunners last season and manager Arsene Wenger will be reluctant to let the striker leave. However, the Gunners boss has already admitted earlier this week that his club may need to sell the player to help finance their stadium and should AC Milan get close to the Gunners asking price he may have no option but to sanction the sale.
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Old 08-07-2008, 21:41   #8053

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If you can't imagine such a simple concept as a 18 year old player against a 23 year old player in the football world, then it is hard to debate with you. now tell us what Nocerino did when he was 18. In fact Paloschi was only 17 when he debuted.



Nocerino is seen as a transer for those clubs as he is not deemed good enough for Juve. Paloschi will at most be loaned out from MILAN because he is deemed to good to lose. that with his 5 years less in experience. I wouldn't be surprised if Paloschi have a better career than the overhyped Balotelli. Hell, a 18 year odl getting playing time in our Milan enviroment is amazing enough.



scored a goal per game for the allevi nazionale. top scorer in the primavera. Scores in most U-19 games he play and already 4 goals with the senior team while barerly being 18. Scoring on his debute both in copa and A.



Hope u read the previous posts before that one. The topic was who has produced better youth in recent years. And Giancarlo kept on using Polschi as his prime example of Milan youth products. Nocerino was just one example of many other youth products Juve have produced. Whether u think hes good or not hes currently the captain of Olymics team.

The topic of Age was never a factor, what was a factor is what the players have accomplished in their short careers. And Although Polschi maybe highly rated he hasnt proven anything in Serie A, and untill he does he cant be compared to other Youth players who have.


Again the Topic was about how Both Inter and Juve have produced better talent in RECENT YEARS compared to Milan.


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Pretty much every LB in Italy is better than Nocerino. I bet most of the serie B ones are too.
It was a typo i meant to say Molinaro. And if u know any other Youth Lb that italy have produced in recent years then plz indicate. Chielini has officially become a CB so lets not use that one.

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I mentioned Paloschi only a few times and brought up other players. I view Paloschi as one of the brightest stars to emerge from Italy (and his U-17 and U-19 goal scoring record proves that). Paloschi is just 18 years old and already has set himself up for a spot in the national team in the future. I also feel we are the ones at the forefront of domestic talent. But lets stick to the topic at hand.

This is about the mercato. Lets get back to that... it seems like things are heating up.

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I mentioned Paloschi only a few times and brought up other players. I view Paloschi as one of the brightest stars to emerge from Italy (and his U-17 and U-19 goal scoring record proves that). Paloschi is just 18 years old and already has set himself up for a spot in the national team. I also feel we are the ones at the forefront of domestic talent. But lets stick to the topic at hand.

This is about the mercato. Lets get back to that... it seems like things are heating up.
I doubt Paloschi is even a canidate for the Italian National team. Balotelli and soon enough Amauri will be able to play for Italy, who also have Cassano, Qagalaira( cant spell his name), and G.Rossi. Polschi has a slim chance with that kind of competition.

How is Milan at the forfront for domestic Talent? Inter have reached 2 consecutive finals in two years for the Primavera, and their under 17 just won it. Whie most of Juve's youth are being bought up by clubs in Italy and are most of them will be participating in the Olympics.

GianCarlo its not about how u feel, since feelings and opinions cannot really be debated. If u wanna debate then put the facts on the table .

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