Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

If we were to get Thiago Silva I think it would make sense to loan out Viudez, assuming Nesta is still injured in January.

If we loan out Viudez to free up a non-eu spot (i take it it can work like this?) for Silva, in the summer when Viudez comes back from his loan, what happens then? Would Silva take up one of our newly allocated non-eu spots or would we have to loan Viudez out again? It's all a bit confusing

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

If we loan out Viudez to free up a non-eu spot (i take it it can work like this?) for Silva, in the summer when Viudez comes back from his loan, what happens then? Would Silva take up one of our newly allocated non-eu spots or would we have to loan Viudez out again? It's all a bit confusing

No, than viudez will take on of the Eu spots,.....though I`m not sure we are allowed one more Eu player, regardless if we free uo one place by loaning out Viudez

Originally Posted by forward

Kaka after the friendly already said he felt no more pain. And that was before Genoa game. I respect him a lot, but against Genoa he was one of the worst players, worse than Ronaldinho if you ask me.

Pirlo on the other hand was trying to make the best out of situation on the field, - no unnecessary ball loses, no diving..

Feeling no more pain doesn't mean that you are fit to play, or close to superb condition.

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Can we stop this finger-pointing at SOMEONE who is responsible for the poor beginning of the season? Can we once step back, take a bird view, and see actually what happened to the team as a whole?

Originally Posted by kastriot

That was my point, When u are coach-manager u get to have say in transfer policy,ex Wenger decides how much will players get from a new contract. I doubt Carlo would dare to get involved in contract extension.

2 summers ago.. carlo asked for luca toni and ribery... he got emerson

this summer he asked for a proven goal scorer CF, named eto'o, drogba, adebayor, amauri and berbatov.... he got ronaldinho, sheva, and borriello

he also asked to reinforce defense asking for zapata. He also requested boruc. And by request i mean he came out and said he likes these players would like them in milan in a polite way.... he didnt mourinho it andsay buy me this or else.

Point is, im sure behind closed doors he requested it a little more fervently.... but galliani didnt come thru. I believe berlusconi had some to do w/ it, but it clearly wasnt a monetary issue. Galliani decided to gamble on a CF (borriello) and buy a playmaker.... the opposite should have been case... te should have gotten adebayor or berbatov (who would have been cheaper to us considering we're not english) or eto. And then signed a young playaker/(perhaps winger type) w/ upside.

Originally Posted by Milano84

2 summers ago.. carlo asked for luca toni and ribery... he got emerson

this summer he asked for a proven goal scorer CF, named eto'o, drogba, adebayor, amauri and berbatov.... he got ronaldinho, sheva, and borriello

he also asked to reinforce defense asking for zapata. He also requested boruc. And by request i mean he came out and said he likes these players would like them in milan in a polite way.... he didnt mourinho it andsay buy me this or else.

Point is, im sure behind closed doors he requested it a little more fervently.... but galliani didnt come thru. I believe berlusconi had some to do w/ it, but it clearly wasnt a monetary issue. Galliani decided to gamble on a CF (borriello) and buy a playmaker.... the opposite should have been case... te should have gotten adebayor or berbatov (who would have been cheaper to us considering we're not english) or eto. And then signed a young playaker/(perhaps winger type) w/ upside.

Great post but people will never see it.....they prefer to make Carlo the scapegoat and bash the hell out of him...could you imagine what would happen if they actually found out B&G were at fault for this one?
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Originally Posted by forward

@mrki
first, misspelling my nickname is just plain mean... Second, you can dislike Maldini all you want but the goal was a mistake of a Central Back + Left Back... I am not even saying that Central Defenders MUST back each other up..

Kaka after the friendly already said he felt no more pain. And that was before Genoa game. I respect him a lot, but against Genoa he was one of the worst players, worse than Ronaldinho if you ask me.
Pirlo on the other hand was trying to make the best out of situation on the field, - no unnecessary ball loses, no diving..

And regarding Sheva - I pray the day he starts scoring comes faster, so we can come back to this conversation again.

Forward, my apologies for thenickname, honestly. I didnt mean to spell it wrong for any reason. Sorry once more.

I dont dislike Maldini - Maldini is my football GOD! Disliking somone and saying truth about his performance has nothing to do with each other. At first Gonoa goal, the player that scored was Maldini's player. The ball pas played and Maldini lost his man who went on to score. 2nd goal is also his fault. Maldini is my football hero, but its his fauld for BOTH goals. I dont like that fact either, but its true. Please, pleeeease be real and odnt ever say again that I dislike Maldini!!!

Kaka' had no more pain, but I was talking about his legs that arent listening to him yet. Feeling no pain doesnt mean you are fit to play. Kaka' is not match fit, that is as obvious as anything.

$heva can start scoreing 3 goals a game, he is still a traitor and not a Milan legend any more. As far as Im concerned. if he comes back to playing great football again I will admit that I was wrong and that you were right about him.

Again, apologiest for the nickname thing. Dont take it personally.
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Kastriot - Mourinho stood up to Abramovic and got fired, Cappello stood up to Berlusconi and got fired - so what?? Carlo is not an employ of some poor firm that makes 1500 euro's a month and has to keep his family with that so he needs to be soooo carefull about his job.

Carlo is a welthy man who can easily find another ( also expencive job!! ) and stay rich as he is now!
He acts like a puppy. Mourinho and Cappello didnt do that. and I respect them more then a man who just sits quiet while bosses make fool out of them. Its not all about the money you know...

Originally Posted by mrki

Forward, my apologies for thenickname, honestly. I didnt mean to spell it wrong for any reason. Sorry once more.

I dont dislike Maldini - Maldini is my football GOD! Disliking somone and saying truth about his performance has nothing to do with each other. At first Gonoa goal, the player that scored was Maldini's player. The ball pas played and Maldini lost his man who went on to score. 2nd goal is also his fault. Maldini is my football hero, but its his fauld for BOTH goals. I dont like that fact either, but its true. Please, pleeeease be real and odnt ever say again that I dislike Maldini!!!

Kaka' had no more pain, but I was talking about his legs that arent listening to him yet. Feeling no pain doesnt mean you are fit to play. Kaka' is not match fit, that is as obvious as anything.

$heva can start scoreing 3 goals a game, he is still a traitor and not a Milan legend any more. As far as Im concerned. if he comes back to playing great football again I will admit that I was wrong and that you were right about him.

Again, apologiest for the nickname thing. Dont take it personally.
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Kastriot - Mourinho stood up to Abramovic and got fired, Cappello stood up to Berlusconi and got fired - so what?? Carlo is not an employ of some poor firm that makes 1500 euro's a month and has to keep his family with that so he needs to be soooo carefull about his job.

Carlo is a welthy man who can easily find another ( also expencive job!! ) and stay rich as he is now!
He acts like a puppy. Mourinho and Cappello didnt do that. and I respect them more then a man who just sits quiet while bosses make fool out of them. Its not all about the money you know...

Good post Mrki... Maldini sucks...he was the best but it is time for him to quit... old bones dont mend easily...
Carlo ask for some F1 cars and got some mini, lada, lotus and other crap... cant really blame him... but i wish i could giv B&G a real Jamaican Page... we would get wat we want on the pitch...

Am I the only one who regrets selling Gila?

it looks like it wasn't HIM after all. Even CR7, Messi and Benzema would stink in today's Milan.

Too early to tell if selling Gila is a mistake, but I can see another Borriello coming...

Originally Posted by kastriot

Either you coach with the players you have, or u quit. And i dont blame him for not quitting.

It's the way it is in Italy or France and some other countries with some exceptions (in France, I know that Claude Puel has a manager role in Lyon, it was a condition to come there for example) ... anyway, mrki is the only one to blame Carlo not to quit ... lol

Originally Posted by Jeff

Can we stop this finger-pointing at SOMEONE who is responsible for the poor beginning of the season? Can we once step back, take a bird view, and see actually what happened to the team as a whole?

ok, on my part i wish for it to end..
I will come back to my usual habit of watching the games, reading and not posting

Very simply buy Akinfeev & Arshavin & get a life ACM & if this point of non-EU comes in the way, the send $hevcnenko & the other 2 newly signed kids to Greenland or some where else so that they cannot come back

Originally Posted by mzk57

Very simply buy Akinfeev & Arshavin & get a life ACM & if this point of non-EU comes in the way, the send $hevcnenko & the other 2 newly signed kids to Greenland or some where else so that they cannot come back

why would we need yet another striker/second striker tho

IF u remember, gila was effective w/ a good support striker. when he had sheva he was fine, not perfect but he could have improved to level he needed to get to. From when sheva left he went downhill. If we showed faith and played him + pato it might haveworked.... however there was too much negativity he had to go.
In all honesty, borriello is more talented. Whether that shows up is another question, he has been a career underachiever. I hope carlo shows faith and gives him 8-10 starts before he decided to make him a bit player..I think borriello + pato w/ kaka, dinho behind could be very effective
We should have gotten a more proven goalscorer, but since we didnt borriello is best bet.

Originally Posted by _Ace

why would we need yet another striker/second striker tho

Its not about another striker/second striker, its about a match winning player & Arshavin has a GREAT match winning ability & he can be fit in any team, he is a gem & we need a player him. Personally I will enjoy watch Arshavin playing with Kaka than Seedorf, 76, Borrie & Inzaghi (with all due respect to Pippo)

Chelsea had Lampard, Ballack & Joe Cole, yet they signed Deco & you can see the results. Man Utd had Roooney & they signed Tevez & it worked