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Originally Posted by Peachtot

i dare to say that sheva will decrease in performance more & more. i didnt see the same enthusiasm Dinho has on sheva case to revive. For me, his loan wont be extended by management and that will be best decision for us

Yes, I agree!

Pippo just needs to score few more in UEFA and then Galliani will be able to say:" we have prolonged a contract with the best European scorer of all times, now noone can catch him...he will play untill 2020!)

Kidding, Pippo is a true legend, Im happy for his renewal. $heva is the one we need to replace.

I dont see Cigarini playing in Milan EXCEOPt if we sell Gourcuff and dont prolong Emerson contact. But Gourcuff and Cigarini are two different player completely. We need a player that is able to play CM and go forward, as Clarence can/could, and Yoan can ( as far as I can see this year ).

But Cigarini is super talented player for sure! Maybe he'll do another year with torino, Reggina, Atalanta-who knows.

And, Thiago Silva has 95% joined Intermerda...

Originally Posted by Siregar

I hope it was a loan move not permanent move.

Sheva's transfer was a permanent deal. We're stuck with him. All we can do is hope he finds his scoring boots.

Originally Posted by El Fre

Sheva's transfer was a permanent deal. We're stuck with him. All we can do is hope he finds his scoring boots.

Nope, no one knows what kind of contract Milan did for Sheva except Milan and Chelsea boards.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Nope, no one knows what kind of contract Milan did for Sheva except Milan and Chelsea boards.

if he keep going on like this, I don't think Chelsea wants him back.

I do hope he scores some more for Milan.

Bout Cigarini... why not buy him now n loan him to others... that way, if he do turn into a helluva player, we don't have to spend crazy amount of cash...

Originally Posted by Siregar

Nope, no one knows what kind of contract Milan did for Sheva except Milan and Chelsea boards.

When he came to milan the official site said something like this:

"Milan have bought Andrij Shevchenko on a permanent basis. The terms of the transfer are undisclosed."

Originally Posted by El Fre

When he came to milan the official site said something like this:

"Milan have bought Andrij Shevchenko on a permanent basis. The terms of the transfer are undisclosed."

No, I didn't read anything like that. The aggreement was confidential.

Than we must agree to disagree

Absolutely, as you can't proove anything for your statement saying that the Sheva came on permanent basis.

Originally Posted by mrki

I dont see Cigarini playing in Milan EXCEOPt if we sell Gourcuff and dont prolong Emerson contact. But Gourcuff and Cigarini are two different player completely. We need a player that is able to play CM and go forward, as Clarence can/could, and Yoan can ( as far as I can see this year ).

But Cigarini is super talented player for sure! Maybe he'll do another year with torino, Reggina, Atalanta-who knows.

And, Thiago Silva has 95% joined Intermerda...

I don't see why Cigarini and Gourcuff will have problems for space in our squad, they're two very different players, a point you've made yourself. Pirlo, Emerson and possibly to a lesser degree Seedorf are the biggest opposition to Cigarini getting a spot in the deep lying playmaker/distributor role.

For Gourcuff, Seedorf, Ambro and Flamini are the most likely players to possibly get in his way of a first team spot, for that midfield role you described (although it was more LM than CM). Realistically, only Seedorf and Ambro will challenge Gourcuff for the role, as Flamini is Rino's understudy.

Cigarini (or Fabregas, depending on who the newspapers decide to say) would be a good purchase for us. We're clearly building the future based on a similar mould we already have in place. Flamini will be Gattuso's natural successor and Gourcuff can replace Seedorf, meaning one of Cigarini or Fabregas would naturally fill Pirlo's role.

Do you guys think we need more than 1 new midfielder for next season. We are already overloaded and at the moment Pirlo and Cardacio are no where near the list of realistic starters.

If we say Milan will start with one striker then that leaves 5 positions for the midfielders.
2 0f those positions will be taken by Kaka and Pato/Ronnie

This leaves 3 positions for Pirlo, Seedorf, Flamini, Rino, Ambrosini and Emerson.

We can add Gourcuff to that, but realistically he is better off staying an extra year on loan to develop further or to another Seria A team. It would be wise to send Cardacio to the same team so they can forge an understanding for their future at Milan.

Originally Posted by e-Milan

if he keep going on like this, I don't think Chelsea wants him back.

I do hope he scores some more for Milan.

Bout Cigarini... why not buy him now n loan him to others... that way, if he do turn into a helluva player, we don't have to spend crazy amount of cash...

cigarini is co-owned by atalanta and parma. Parma sold 50% of cigarini and dessena's (to sampdoria) rights because they r too good to play serie B, or did not want to.

it would surprise me if we swapped paloschi for cigarini.

as for space in squad.... we could play a 4-4-2 at times.... with a midfield line of......
--gourcuff--cigarini--flamini--abate--

all those players are under 25. Gourcuff, cigarini are 22, and abate is almost 22.

personally i'd rather bring cigarini into squad, dump emerson, loan out cardaccio. but i have a feeling we'll keep emo.

Originally Posted by Milano84

as for space in squad.... we could play a 4-4-2 at times.... with a midfield line of......
--gourcuff--cigarini--flamini--abate--

Would you really field this midfield? Ancelotti wouldnt ever consider it, not if we aim to compete for the scudetto. Our history has shown that the so called smaller teams cant be underestimated.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Would you really field this midfield? Ancelotti wouldnt ever consider it, not if we aim to compete for the scudetto. Our history has shown that the so called smaller teams cant be underestimated.

--zambrotta--nesta--bonera--antonini--

--gourcuff--cigarini--flamini--abate--

----------kaka--------------------

--------------borriello-------------


i'd be completely comfy w/ that or 4-2-3-1 w/ r80 in center or whatever.

^ You're sure you're not mistaking Milan for Roma?

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

I don't see why Cigarini and Gourcuff will have problems for space in our squad, they're two very different players, a point you've made yourself. Pirlo, Emerson and possibly to a lesser degree Seedorf are the biggest opposition to Cigarini getting a spot in the deep lying playmaker/distributor role.

Pirlo is our main playmaker, a player that, if fit, misses out on every 8th game in Milan. There are Gattuso, Ambrosini, and Flamini.

If Emerson goes away, and Milan birngs Yoan back ANd Seedorf will for sure be here, we will have 6 players capable of playing central midfield, plus 2 players that are most likely to play all of the games Kaka' and Dinho. That is 8 players that would be in front of Cigarini.

For a player that is a main motor of italia U21 and, by my standards, a great palyer, this is not acceptable situation.

For Milan, its great to have so mayn midfielders, but aldough Yoan and Cigarini are not similar, thay would both fight for CM spot, with Pirlo ,ambro, Flamini, Rino...

to play 15 games a year for Cigarini is not enouigh. And he will not play more in our possible squad for next year.

Even if I really like this player, I have to say Milan dosnt need him right now, but in the future. He can play some great football in serie a one more year. Gourcuff, with his caracteristic, is a player that Milan needs more as he is capable of playing more forward then Cigarini.