Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by nefremo

I don't really know if we understand each other K77SH. As I agree with some of the points you make, but if we didn't buy Bonera, Favalli, Pancaro, Senderos...then who would we have as back ups?

Everything you say makes sense. I suppose Im trying to stress that Milan need to have some starters before we can concern our selves with backup.

We can agree to give Senderos time which is something that Wenger eventually stopped giving him. Wenger doesnt do this with young players, not ones that go on to succeed anyway.

Originally Posted by nefremo

Bonera is a great player that would start in most Serie A defences, I would say he would be a starter for 80% of Serie A's teams right now. But sometimes us fans are a little spoiled and see the grass greener on the other side of the fence.

Bonera would be a great choice to rotate with Nesta if we had another world class defender. As it is, I feel Milan is desperately short at the back. I keep saying Zapatta because his name is easier to spell than Santacroce, but the Napoli man will be the saviour of Itallian defenders. When I see him, I get the same feeling that Dani Alves gave me at Seville. He has pace, aggression, good ball control, passing and the timing of tackles that all great defenders have. He has it all. I will be absolutely disgusted if Barca get him(They are already sniffing around him).

Originally Posted by nefremo

Also, I understand that we replaced Van Basten.....as a matter of fact he was the reason I started loving Milan. But it took a while don't you think. It didn't actually happen untill 99 when Sheva came as before that we had good forwards but they never really really did what we wanted them to for a consistent period of time.

You could also include Big George Weah in that. Oh and Simoni in his white boots. He wasnt the same level I know.

Originally Posted by nefremo

At the same time, would YOU spend 20+ mil on a player that will only sit on the bench and wait for Nesta to retire so he can take the spotlight? Because lets face it........Carlo, Galliani, Berlu will not bench Maldini untill he has legs to walk. I think we've seen the proof of that already.

We dont need to bench him anymore. Between his injuries and tired legs the new man would get playing time. Playing Mr X would not be a problem at all.

Originally Posted by nefremo

Good discussion by the way.

I know, its more fun talking about your club when you think you so obviously see the things that need to be done. Being champions is not as much fun as trying to be champions.

Agree......sometimes I wish we were 30 points up in front, but then again what excitement would that be.

About Santacroce...you are spot on. I think we need to make him a priority. He seems to be the chosen one to carry on the Italian legacy of great defenders......but I don't want to run ahead of myself just yet as there have been too many chosen ones over the years that didn't reach expectations with Bonera being one of them.
Anyhow, Santacroce seems to be worth the gamble and it would suck if we let him go anywhere else expecially because defence should be a priority in the summer.

I kinda have a feeling that none of the Napoli players will be sold any time soon.... They are building a very promising project and aim to go for the young players with potential. However to be a great team they do need some sort of experience. I dont think that Santacroce will be leaving any time soon, however I do not know if their minds will change when Fabio Cannavaro joins them next summer..there could be a chance.

I really believe Napoli is going for the scudetto in next 3-4 years, they have the money and will not sell their players to Milan, Juve, Inter...

As soon as I saw Santacroce play I was extatic about his talent, same thing with players like Pato, Corluka and for example young Robben. Those players you recognise right away.

Milan will not pay 11 mln for Senderos unless he plays exceptional well this year. Now he is not injured any more and we can use him in time and without pressure. Our only problem is Nesta, even more then Pirlo in my oppinion.

But, for some of you that follow handball, and know who is Ivano Balic ( unquestionably the ronaldinho of handball)...he has the same injury as Nesta and WC in in Croatia in january. They also decided he will not undergo surgery and will be threated like Nesta is now. But not in Miami Operation would risk too much and recuperation would last too long.

About bonera: When he was y U21 player he was considered to be top class italian defender. With Lippi he played in first 11 of NT as a RB. This year Bonera plays his best football in AC Milan so far. Im very happy with his games, he onlyneeds to be less violent. And that is why Milan needs defenders like Maldini and Nesta, players who have muscles but even more brains. Which Bonera, Kaladze and Senderos dont have.

And dont forget, its MUCH easier to play next to Zambrotta then Oddo...

Originally Posted by mrki

As soon as I saw Santacroce play I was extatic about his talent, same thing with players like Pato, Corluka and for example young Robben. Those players you recognise right away.

agree.

Next year we'll lose Maldini n I don't think I will see nesta on every game too coz of his injury,.. so we should really bring the best def around no matter it cost to immediately replace those 2 defense legends when they're not available. I just don't want to see Kaladze - Bonera pair as our best defense solution next year. Santacroce fits the bill.

or some palyer like Terry, Ferdinand

Santacroce and Zapata, I think it can happen, just like we never would have thought we would sign Nesta.

Originally Posted by mrki

or some palyer like Terry, Ferdinand

Probably for JT, absolutely not for Ferdinand and FORZA Santacroce

But Lazio was in financial crisis then and had to sell their top players. Napoli has been building a very good team in past years and isn't in need of cash. Udinese is a different case, they have the knack of selling their best players if the price is right. That's why I believe we have more possibility signing Zapata than that Santaclaus-something.

About the idea of getting Terry or Ferdinand, just forget it. Terry to Chelsea is like Maldini to us. And if Rio doesn't date with some hot blond sophaholic celebrity and begins to pay more attention to how his hair looks than to football, there's no chance that SAF will sell him

The day when Nesta came was a blessing for us ^^ And I think it was also to save Lazio from bankruptcy. Zapata probably comes but I think we'd been linked with this Santa Claus also for few times. Still there is a chance for sign this player. Zapata or Santacroce should be bring to here ASAP. But personally I hope Santa Claus the one who is coming. Because he might brings a present for us

easy MLM.. santa definitely will come soon ! precisely this december in anywhere you are

If you only saw City-Tottenham and Corluka vs Robinho.... we are idiots! Im not even gonna watch Corluka again unless he plays for Croatia... I keep thinking about Oddo, and Senderos as our defenders then

Charli is a brilliant player.

Originally Posted by mrki

If you only saw City-Tottenham and Corluka vs Robinho.... we are idiots! Im not even gonna watch Corluka again unless he plays for Croatia... I keep thinking about Oddo, and Senderos as our defenders then

Charli is a brilliant player.

Never gonna happen Mrki, just give it a rest.......Never would galliani spend the amount that City did last year. Thats the reality. They splashed that kind of money only on Dinho,cuz they knew it was a great deal.Thats it.

not only charlie,but Eduardo and Modric wuold have made it in milan, but not for that amount of money.

But Charlie went to Tottenham for 9mln!! NINE mln... Senderos's buy-price is 8mln + 2.5 the loan!

Originally Posted by mrki

But Charlie went to Tottenham for 9mln!! NINE mln... Senderos's buy-price is 8mln + 2.5 the loan!

I was thinking the same thing while writing the post, and I knew that u will mention this.

Its true, but I think the only team who was involved in Charlies transfers was Totnham, once they almost closed the deal to be blocked by MAn City old owner.

AT that time everybody thought that Charlie was indispensable for Man City.they were never gonna sell him

The transfer came through in the last day, after the owners were changed in Man city. Frankly, Abu DABi(a family with wealth around 600 bilion euros) couldnt care less about the transfer fee, they just wanted to offload Corluka to open up space for some star player like Canna, Nesta, Alex...corluka doesnt still fit that profile of players.
A transfer in the last minute was agreed with Totnham cuz they already had a deal with Charlie.

Mrki, earlier you mentioned that Naletic talked to our management about Charlie, and the sad thing is not they are cheap,but they were never interested.