Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Siregar

If Moggi could bring Viera to Turin why Galliani can't do the same thing to Fabregas? But the key of course is on Fabregas itself. If he wants to move then it shouldn't be so hard to get him but if he has no intension to leave Arsenal, Milan can't do anything.

Vieira was at near of his peak performance, he's declining. Fabregas, well he's not even close to his peak performance yet so there is no way arsenal will let him go.

Originally Posted by boring

You'll make me cry. Add Ramos to that as RB and Benzema along with Pato as ST. That would be sweet.

But seriously, Milan should go for Ramos this time around since he's shown interest and he's very unsettled at this club at this time and playing very bad because of the lack-of-RW situation over there. Go get him Fest..

Buy ramos at the expense of PATO.........No way !!!!!

Anybody can comment on Simon Kjaer....the young defender from Palermo

Heard that Milan is interested......How good is he?? I've never seen him play for the sicilians....

While some people asked for our club to spend cash, cash and even more cash last summer and now say that we didn't spend and that it is awful from a club like us etc, we can notice that our club seems not to have any credit, and so, isn't really touched (for moment) by the economical crisis.

The big loosers of this crisis could be some of the Spanish clubs (Valencia ... big trouble) and some clubs in England !!

These clubs will have to sell their players, even if there are reports that banks want to get back their money quickly, so at the start of 2009 (winter mercato), I'm pretty sure that these clubs will keep their players until the end of the season, but then, they will have no choice: sell or die.

So let's buy one good CB (or W-C CB) on the next winter mercato, and let's wait for the next summer mercato !!

PS: Valencia and Liverpool are our ideal targets ... lol

Originally Posted by kawiki

Vieira was at near of his peak performance, he's declining. Fabregas, well he's not even close to his peak performance yet so there is no way arsenal will let him go.

You can say it with Zidane. Same case. But very different transfer fee. The point is both were very important player for Arsenal and Juve in that time.

Anelka was also young when he moved to Real Madrid. Adebayor also was transferable this summer. The key is only in Fabregas.

Originally Posted by Bosniaco

This guy is 34 years old, come on now...

I know. And I never said that we should buy him.
It was just a bit strange that he was listed as a Milan player on the official site.

Originally Posted by kastriot

his not a mediocre coach...his only problem is that his "shy" and too quiet, He lets berlu and Galliani to do all the work, that in can be called also avoiding more responsibilities which is another problem itself. i do blame him for this, but on the other hand the guy wants to keep his job..who could blame him for that, he could go on and give ultimatum to Berlu...either I do my job, and u give me x and y players or i leave...the last will happen. U do not play games with enormous ego like Berlusconi`s. Its all the way his word.

In these circumstances u are left with a bad shaped team, added plus two major reinforcments in the shape of Dinho and Sheva...and the masterpiece Senderos.. U miss nesta, pirlo, borriello...bad shaped kaka, bad shaped Sheva, not in form Dinho(first 4-5 games)

What did u except really??? cmon guys be more objective and realistic...on top of that you know we play better in the second part of the season...it has always been like this since carlo joined...why this year should be any different. We have now 4-5 important games against the big fish..we play better against them.

Ancelotti is a MILLIONARE!! Come on...its not like he is trying to keep his job so he is not hungry and can take care of his family. Carlo Ancelotti is a simply coward and sucks up to Silvio and does whatever him and Galliani say. That is the reason why Milan sacked Cappello second time and why Milan never wanted Mourinho.

We paly better in the second part of the year? Since when is that normal and ok????????????????? isnt that a PROBLEM???

Originally Posted by GeoTav

While some people asked for our club to spend cash, cash and even more cash last summer and now say that we didn't spend and that it is awful from a club like us etc, we can notice that our club seems not to have any credit, and so, isn't really touched (for moment) by the economical crisis.

The big loosers of this crisis could be some of the Spanish clubs (Valencia ... big trouble) and some clubs in England !!

These clubs will have to sell their players, even if there are reports that banks want to get back their money quickly, so at the start of 2009 (winter mercato), I'm pretty sure that these clubs will keep their players until the end of the season, but then, they will have no choice: sell or die.

So let's buy one good CB (or W-C CB) on the next winter mercato, and let's wait for the next summer mercato !!

PS: Valencia and Liverpool are our ideal targets ... lol

i believe this when i'll see them with their pockets empty
i don't think they will sell that easy

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=25&a=104791

Yoan about Milan.

So, Yoan doesn't want to come back to Milan?

No he simply didnt answer when asked about Milan...which is the right thing to do...what ever he would have said would sound bad for one of the parties...and normally he wanst to keep the both doors open.

What worries me is that he said that he hasnt talk to Carlo since he left, that should change...But I think immediately after the break we will start negotiating a new contract with Yoan, we are smart enough to see that we need to get him back where he belongs.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

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PS: Valencia and Liverpool are our ideal targets ... lol

true true, while they will do near anything to hold torres or gerrard.... agger could be a steal as he's such an underrated defender... dossena is a good WB (although im not sure hes an upgrade on janku, simply just a younger version) and xabi alonso really is n ideal midfielder for our system.

Originally Posted by Siregar

You can say it with Zidane. Same case. But very different transfer fee. The point is both were very important player for Arsenal and Juve in that time.

Anelka was also young when he moved to Real Madrid. Adebayor also was transferable this summer. The key is only in Fabregas.

wenger would leave if he lost fabregas. He captained cesc to keep him, and if im correct he's only player that they broke there wage structure for.....Thats his team and he knows it. Adebayor? replaceable... Anyway cesc will move 1 day, i just dont think itll be this summer....

keep in mind arsenal r in the best financial shape of any epl club

I don't know if Wenger gave captaincy to Cesc to keep Cesc play for Arsenal. Wenger should have given it to Cesc than to Gallas because in that time the news about Fabregas to Madrid was so strong.

About replacable or not, this is an old story from Arsenal. In the past the media said that Emmanuel Petit was half of Arsenal's power in that time but he still could go and Arsenal still could win thropies. The same case applied to Vieira. Everybody was talking that Wenger wouldn't sell Vieira but he still went from Arsenal (with pretty cheap price).

I do think, for Wenger nothing is irreplacble. Wenger is the one who make them good/great players and Wenger still can find new start after they went out from Arsenal. The interesting thing, many of them seems nothing without Wenger.

I don't think Arsenal are in best financial shape but I also don't think that they are bangkrupt. But they have to save their money for their new stadium. And the most important thing is that Arsenal have no attractiveness like european big clubs. Star from Arsenal can go to Milan, Juve, Madrid etc but not vice versa. Arsenal have their pride but not like european big clubs have.

Fabregas will leave, itsjust the matter of time. Year or two most. Arsenal cant keep him.