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Kaka' cant be replaced, so cant Rino and we miraculosly saved him from going to Bayern this summer.

But MILAN IS READY TO SELL KAKA? for money, and that is so disgusting that I cant describe it... And Ricky, pleeease dont be stupid and play in **** club like City coz of a "super project"!! Then what? Then they need 9 more great players!! Buffon, Ibra etc... Its a circus, freak show.

Im so dissapointed I cant even describe it to you people. Berlusconi should say:"no. basta, ciao." and not take the money like last scum, like he lacks money for players!! Bestards and sellouts!

Originally Posted by mrki

coz of a "super project"!! Then what? Then they need 9 more great players!! Buffon, Ibra etc

Agree with this part 100%

Originally Posted by GeoTav

About Sheva, remember that the money wasn't totally used to bring a new striker because we had a debt at this moment !! And about Oliveira, he failed because of many things: new team, new country, pressure to replace Sheva, his sister kidnapped for almost 6 months of the season, ... nobody really welcomed him !!

Then, I presume we won't have any news until the next days (Calciomercato has problems, that means Kaka' stories are a good thing for all medias, I'm pretty sure we won't know anything before Monday ... and, it's a hope, Monday they will say "we turned off the offer immediately last Monday !!").

EDIT: For Oliveira, I forgot to mention that he arrived after a long injury ...

Jesus, Oliveira is not a half player Shevchenko was and that is all there is it in that story. Do not make excuses for him. Sheva was a golden ball winner, scored more then 20 goals in his first serie a season etc. Oliveira is a good palyer for Real Betis.

It all depends on Milan. If Milan say yes, Kaka can easily think that he is not so very important for Milan : money is more important than him. He always says that if Milan still want him, he will play for Milan.

If Milan are already giving permision to City to talk with Kaka, like other said, it's only a matter of time.

Originally Posted by mrki

Jesus, Oliveira is not a half player Shevchenko was and that is all there is it in that story. Do not make excuses for him. Sheva was a golden ball winner, scored more then 20 goals in his first serie a season etc. Oliveira is a good palyer for Real Betis.

A few months ago we had a discussion about modernizing football. I had suggested that there were some good things about it, like proper seating.

I take it all back. I was wrong.

I would rather we have concrete jungles to play in than watch that which is going on with football today.

Originally Posted by mrki

In latest news, Milan has already sold Kaka', its just for Kaka' to arrange terms with City.

AND CITY IS A JOKE THAT WILL PLAY CL IN THREE YEARS MIN!!!

Where have you read that he has already been sold? Everything I've seen is saying Milan have not accepted or rejected but is considering the offer and Kaka and his father are meeting with Man City tomorrow.

I agree City is a joke and wont be in the CL at least the next two seasons.

Originally Posted by Siregar

It all depends on Milan. If Milan say yes, Kaka can easily think that he is not so very important for Milan : money is more important than him. He always says that if Milan still want him, he will play for Milan.

If Milan are already giving permision to City to talk with Kaka, like other said, it's only a matter of time.

Actually, if we sell him, I'll start to think that all theses declarations from Kaka' (saying "I'll play forever in Milan" and going to "if Milan wants me, I stay, the club will decide my future") and from Milan (saying "he's staying" and going some months after to "we hope he'll stay but consider the offer") was a complete strategy from both !!

Kaka' not wanting on his side to be the bad boy leaving the club who made him what he is now, and Milan not wanting on its side to be the club that sells his players if there are good/amazing offers ...

So both Milan and Kaka' will be responsible if he leaves, because don't forget that to leave, Milan has to accept the offer, but Kaka' also has to sign a contract ...

Tifosi sent a letter to ac milan and said that this will never be forgiven... The letter ssays that love cant be bought. In general and in short...

Stay Ricky!!

So snapping back to reality...what are the odds of us luring Gourcuff back to replace Kaka (if he is sold)?

Originally Posted by Arjun

So snapping back to reality...what are the odds of us luring Gourcuff back to replace Kaka (if he is sold)?

Maybe the declarations of Galliani and today Ambrosini are linked to the possible move of Kaka' ... (they never said anything about Goucuff for months, and this week, there were 2 declarations).

City can do anything in the next two years and then they will have financial problem. In the past many believe Chelsea will conquer the world with the russian but it's only about 2 years they could spend money like they wanted. Taking Kaka with +100 million euros (I hope it's 150 mil euros) is only a beginning problem for City.

Yes, we will lose this time (if Kaka leaves to Manchester) but in the next 3-5 years, City will be the one who regret the transfer they've made.

But AGAIN as many already said, the worst thing of Kaka's transfer is if the management of Milan will use the money properly (to build the team to compete in all competitions).

Originally Posted by Arjun

So snapping back to reality...what are the odds of us luring Gourcuff back to replace Kaka (if he is sold)?

If Bordeaux have the slightest ambition they will exercise the buyout clause, but of course football finances are not the best and I guess the argument is in the French league it hasn't been for a long time. As for the player decision, I doubt he has ever been very enthusiastic about coming back.

I dont get some people....kaka isnt leaving because he wants too...the difference here is sheva ASKED to leave....kaka hasnt said anything rather he pledged his future with milan...he has always said the only way he will leave is if the club was willing to sell him and i guess now we are ...for some reason this is making me more sad than sheva's case

Bordeaux will have the money ... like I said once, the channel that owns most parts of Bordeaux will give them 11M for the Gourcuff clause (because the channel thinks it can be an invest on future).

Siregar, you're right, if we sell Kaka' at 150M, what other club will accept any transfer from them at a normal price ? They will all ask extra-extra-extra-money ... and that'll kill them.

But for moment, Kaka' is not sold ... let's try to be optimistic for once (I try to be now until I see an official announcement saying "he's sold" or "he stays") ?

Originally Posted by Reza

If Bordeaux have the slightest ambition they will exercise the buyout clause, but of course football finances are not the best and I guess the argument is in the French league it hasn't been for a long time. As for the player decision, I doubt he has ever been very enthusiastic about coming back.

he could become dramatically more enthusiastic if he wears the no. 22 at Milan next year...