Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Actually, if we sell him, I'll start to think that all theses declarations from Kaka' (saying "I'll play forever in Milan" and going to "if Milan wants me, I stay, the club will decide my future") and from Milan (saying "he's staying" and going some months after to "we hope he'll stay but consider the offer") was a complete strategy from both !!

Kaka' not wanting on his side to be the bad boy leaving the club who made him what he is now, and Milan not wanting on its side to be the club that sells his players if there are good/amazing offers ...

So both Milan and Kaka' will be responsible if he leaves, because don't forget that to leave, Milan has to accept the offer, but Kaka' also has to sign a contract ...

Why? If you already make commitment to your club but the club show uncertaintitiy to you, will you be so kind to ignore the club's behaviour? If a club have already given other club the permision to talk, it means the player IS NOT untouchable and the management should be blamed for it.

IS Kaka flying to discuss with MC?
It's realy look done.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Why? If you already make commitment to your club but the club show uncertaintitiy to you, will you be so kind to ignore the club's behaviour? If a club have already given other club the permision to talk, it means the player IS NOT untouchable and the management should be blamed for it.

Yes, but everybody said that Kaka' was something smart, that he thinks about what he has to do, etc ... so, if it's the case, he'll understand that such an offer can't be refused but he can refuse, him as a person, as a player, to go in this likely future English second division team !!

So if he signs the contract ... and didn't you notice that three years ago, a move was "NO", two years ago, it was "No, even if playing for Real was a dream when I was young", last summer mercato it was "No, I'm happy in Milan, but it's to them to decide", and now, the same thing with Manchester City ? Even if the offer is accepted, how can you turn from "I want to become the captain of this team in the years coming" to "Ciao Milan" in 1 day ?!
=> Communication, strategy

All I have to say about Milan now: greedy scum! Like it or not!

Be smart Ricky, dont do it.

Boban thinks it's going to happen, and he feels money has won again.

gazzetta

For the first time in my life, I have to agree with Wenger who said something smart:

Originally Posted by Arsene Wenger

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger feels Manchester City's reportedly extravagant move for AC Milan's Kaka would implicate a 'disturbance' on the transfer market.

Talk of City's approach for the Brazilian star has dominated the headlines since it emerged that a club delegation met with Milan on Tuesday regarding their interest.

It has been speculated that the Abu Dhabi-owned club could pay in the region of £100million for the playmaker, who will reportedly be offered a staggering £500,000 a week.

Wenger, who is known for his shrewd style in the transfer market, admits that City, just like Chelsea in the past, now operate outside the normal parameters.

"It does not look real to me at all. It is like an abstraction," said Wenger.

"It does not look in connection with today's world because on one side we have the economic situation which is quite worrying and for me this is abstraction.

The real world
"We live in a football club who lives in the real world. That means we spend the money we make from our income.

"The implications would be disturbance on the market, an inflationary trend in a deflationary world.

"We are in a world where we live from three kinds of income - gate receipts, the sponsors and the television money. That is the real world of football.

"The rest is exceptional and is not the rule of our world. It is a special income with unlimited resources, but it is not the real world.

"Whether it is us, Sunderland or Coventry we live with the same rules. Manchester City are in a different world because they do not live with their income."

Silvio should sell Milan to them, not KAka'. And loan out Galliani to PSG for few years. Morons.

And, just to be concrete, Kaka' is also an idiot who has sold his soul(to say so) for money.

This is realy stupid I can't imagne Milan without Kaka.
The only way I'll accept that is if we will Satncroce, Frey\Ochoa, Zapata, Chigarini, De Silvestri, Diego, Gorky and Zarate.
Wont heppan!!!
Play City!!!Buy Ibra insted!!!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Bordeaux will have the money ... like I said once, the channel that owns most parts of Bordeaux will give them 11M for the Gourcuff clause (because the channel thinks it can be an invest on future).

That's really really bad. But I don't know, maybe with Kaka's departure, Gourcuff will think it again. He could be offered a position as a playmaker (behind the strikers) and not a uncertain position.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Siregar, you're right, if we sell Kaka' at 150M, what other club will accept any transfer from them at a normal price ? They will all ask extra-extra-extra-money ... and that'll kill them.

And what City do is worse than Chelsea. Like other said, Chelsea had a much better team before Abramovic came. And now they behave worse, they try to buy players the want no matter how expensive they are. Imagine how much money they will need to invest. If Kaka is a +100 mil euros, a good player costs at at least 40-50 million euros. And they still need so many players. The will need at least 400-500 million euros (for the starters) and around 100-150 mil euros (for the bench).

this man city gona make me stop watching football I still cant believe, this would be a most stupid move ever for a player like Kaka .
what the f... plan thay have , thay are 15th on the table o yeah sure plan to get out of relegate zone, my god come on Kaka wake up

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Yes, but everybody said that Kaka' was something smart, that he thinks about what he has to do, etc ... so, if it's the case, he'll understand that such an offer can't be refused but he can refuse, him as a person, as a player, to go in this likely future English second division team !!

So if he signs the contract ... and didn't you notice that three years ago, a move was "NO", two years ago, it was "No, even if playing for Real was a dream when I was young", last summer mercato it was "No, I'm happy in Milan, but it's to them to decide", and now, the same thing with Manchester City ? Even if the offer is accepted, how can you turn from "I want to become the captain of this team in the years coming" to "Ciao Milan" in 1 day ?!
=> Communication, strategy

The difference with all Kaka's transfer saga is that Milan NEVER gave a single chance to Madrid and Chelsea to communicate with Kaka. But with City is different. That's the major difference.

Originally Posted by Siregar

That's really really bad. But I don't know, maybe with Kaka's departure, Gourcuff will think it again. He could be offered a position as a playmaker (behind the strikers) and not a uncertain position.



And what City do is worse than Chelsea. Like other said, Chelsea had a much better team before Abramovic came. And now they behave worse, they try to buy players the want no matter how expensive they are. Imagine how much money they will need to invest. If Kaka is a +100 mil euros, a good player costs at at least 40-50 million euros. And they still need so many players. The will need at least 400-500 million euros (for the starters) and around 100-150 mil euros (for the bench).

The problem is that if they are able to take Kaka', they will be able to take anyone else because clubs will accept money, extra money and even more money for their players (if Milan does it, why not smaller clubs ?! It's what they will say to their fans). So if they can take each best player of the best teams, it's not in millions but in billions they are going to invest ... a new era, the end of real football.

EDIT: The only thing that would save football would be that Manchester City can't qualify for CL in the next 3 years, and then, these best players will try to go in historical clubs, as they always did before (Real, Barcelona, Milan, Juventus, Liverpool, Manchester United).

the transfer has been cooked in dubai and everything was actually arranged and kaka already met with the owners and set the goals its just a matter of time to announce the deal. its stupid to think otherwise or to have hopes that kaka would say no. every person on this earth has a price.

Originally Posted by Lebanese

the transfer has been cooked in dubai and everything was actually arranged and kaka already met with the owners and set the goals its just a matter of time to announce the deal. its stupid to think otherwise or to have hopes that kaka would say no. every person on this earth has a price.

That is alie that people lie into each other faces to cover that they are scums! Pride has no price. NO PRICE.

Originally Posted by Siregar

The difference with all Kaka's transfer saga is that Milan NEVER gave a single chance to Madrid and Chelsea to communicate with Kaka. But with City is different. That's the major difference.

Actually Milan let Kaka' and his representatives meet with Real also. It was confirmed by Galliani and Kaka'.