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Old 17-01-2009, 09:04   #586

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the best thing i ever read on Goal.crap

Calcio Debate: If Kaka Moves To Manchester City, Football Is Dead
imo, the only good thing about goal.crap is their debates

specially the Calcio ones
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:08   #587

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If stopping the match means that Kaka, a Milan symbol, wont leave, I'd risk the three points and the fans ban

besides, remember Atalanta vs Milan last season? no points were taken away, it was postponed with the match being played behind closed doors..
It was a special situation !!
Many games were stopped !! Remember what happened in Roma !!

Whereas today, it's just Milan fans not wanting to sell Kaka' ... so if we stop the game and we are not punished, what will happen ?

Sampdoria will do the same when Cassano will be on his way to go, Inter will do the same when one of their players will be on his way, etc etc etc.

The only solution then would be to do a mercato when there is no game, which isn't possible (or stopping winter mercato) !!
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:23   #588

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this is a special situation too...

if Kaka leaves, there wont be any loyal players left

no Maldini's, No Del Piero's, no Buffon's, every player would go after the money, why? because such deals would take over the future of football, which is wrong and who can stop it from happening? yes the fans... considering we have the best management in the world atm... :|
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:23   #589

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TO be honest, those debate thing on Goal.crap is not as bad as you might think. Their latest news are sure crap, but their debate are quite entertaining and good read.
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:23   #590

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To Berlusconi/Galliani : If Kaka goes, make sure you make an agreement with city that they must stay out of negotion on Milan's targets!

Of course first we will have to see if B&G want to use the money to buy very good players that Milan need (if only Kaka goes to City).
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:38   #591

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If Kaka goes to City then the image of Milan as a big, powerfull club that makes their own legends will be gone.

This isn't really about Kaka the player. He honestly hasn't been great this season anyway and is definitely not worth that kind of money. This is about the symbol of Kaka that has been "sold" to us supporters for several years now. He's suppost to become one of our legends and we have taken him inn as one. He's not just a brasilian player anymore, he's looked upon the same as if he came up from our own youth division. He's a potential captain, even though he's not even italian. He's our poster boy! He's also the poster boy of fair and great football.

If we sell him to City then the club loose respect, from it's own fans, from other fans, football looses respect.

And that does include Kaka aswell. This isn't the same as if he went to Real Madrid, that would be "ok" if you can even call it that, since that's a club at our level. Man City is not suppost to be, but if this transfer goes through, then Milan has welcomed Man City to our level or rather went down to theirs.

It's hard to put (english) words to my feeling about this transfer, but in the end, for me, football shouldn't be just about money...
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:43   #592

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I know Kaka has not been his usual this season, but he has done so much for Milan , and give us so much joy, thats why he is still so loved.
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Old 17-01-2009, 09:44   #593

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If Kaka goes to City then the image of Milan as a big, powerfull club that makes their own legends will be gone.

This isn't really about Kaka the player. He honestly hasn't been great this season anyway and is definitely not worth that kind of money. This is about the symbol of Kaka that has been "sold" to us supporters for several years now. He's suppost to become one of our legends and we have taken him inn as one. He's not just a brasilian player anymore, he's looked upon the same as if he came up from our own youth division. He's a potential captain, even though he's not even italian. He's our poster boy! He's also the poster boy of fair and great football.

If we sell him to City then the club loose respect, from it's own fans, from other fans, football looses respect.

And that does include Kaka aswell. This isn't the same as if he went to Real Madrid, that would be "ok" if you can even call it that, since that's a club at our level. Man City is not suppost to be, but if this transfer goes through, then Milan has welcomed Man City to our level or rather went down to theirs.

It's hard to put (english) words to my feeling about this transfer, but in the end, for me, football shouldn't be just about money...
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Old 17-01-2009, 10:24   #594

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After 20 minutes in England:

15 - Manchester City - 22 => 23 - 15th
16 - Middlesbrough - 21 => 21 - 17th
17 - Stoke City - 21 => 22 - 16th
18 - Tottenham - 20 - 19th
19 - Blackburn - 18 => 19 - 20th
20 - West Bromwich -18 => 21 - 18th

Blackburn 0-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 0-0 Stoke City
Manchester City 0-0 Wigan Athletic
West Bromwich 1-0 Middlesbrough

Tottenham-Portsmouth => tomorrow

I'll give you the results at the half-time and the end of this day-match from England, go Wigan !! If Man City can be 17th at the end of the day, that could lead Kaka' to stay ?
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Come on Wigan, score Wigan score.
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Old 17-01-2009, 10:44   #596

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The reporter at the Man City v Wigan game said that Wigan have not brought there strikers today they are very defensive
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Old 17-01-2009, 10:49   #597

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Another transfer down for Man City: De Jong just extended his contract to Hamburg ... it's a shame we couldn't do the same thing as Kaka' has still a contract until 2013.
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Well, Wigan have only two strikers, Zaki and Hemsky and both of them are playing
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Half-time, nothing changed, Kaka', do you really want to go in a championship with 2 goals in 6 games after 45 minutes ?? It's worst than France !!
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After having two beers, now my mind is more calm and relax, Kaka will stay.
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