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Old 01-02-2009, 06:14   #2296

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How about those wonder kids:
Carlos Vela Age 19 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...=76098&cc=5739


Bojan Krkic Age 18 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...=92802&cc=5739



Giovanni Dos Santos Age 19 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...=93495&cc=5739


Stevan Jovetic Age 19 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...119612&cc=5739
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:38   #2297

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Only Krkic is close to Pato. The others are over-hyped.
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:04   #2298

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NO really are you for real?
if you wanna compare him to the above mentioned player ok... no problem Pato has scored so far more than the 3 players added together. pato is scoring, assisting and destroying the other teams
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:19   #2299

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Bojan has done it as well. He stepped into the first team at 16 years old. He's a little inconsistent and doesn't get any playing time and has to compete with Henry, Eto'o and Messi to find a starting place.. it's not that easy. Pato gets to walk into a team like Milan because he's got nobody to compete against.

Bojan's not as good as Pato yet but there is no reason for us to assume that he won't in the future.. because quite simply, HE"S GOT THE TALENT.

Dos Santos sucks.. Seen him play may times. Vela is only good yet. Haven't seen Jovetic but according to the link given above, he's failed to score in 18 appearances.
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:49   #2300

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how do u mean that pato doesn't have anyone to compete with in ac milan ?
for god sakes, he is in our first team instead of the best scorer in european competitions(pippo), and instead of the third best scorer in european competitions(sheva), and also sheva is one of milan's best scorers ever ? second, or third ?
and 19-year old kid is better than them...
herny is not so good anymore, but obviously better than bojan.. so bojan is not so special after all... if he is really something , he will be playing instead of henry....
pato is much much better, u can't compare them... pato with 19 years already has some continuity and experience!
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:50   #2301

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hey boring do you think if pato is playing for barcelona, he would have any problem benching any striker there??? you just made it silly when you mentioned the competition. why would you consider him a star if he is not able to compete.

pato was 17 yrs old, when made a joke out of the mighty puyol and zambrotta. pato played under a high pressure that no superstar can take... and yet he delivered. do you how hard it is to be in pato's shoe and still you score 20 goals in 1 year?

i trully doubt that kricic or any other player would do 50% of what pato is doing even if they have no competition at all...
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IF there is anyone that u can compare Pato to, he is none other than Augero, wait, how old is Augero again, like 21.

Put it this way, if I have to rank top 20 attackers(strikers, Attk Mid, Wingers) I would put Pato in that list, and he is byfar the youngest person there.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:09   #2303

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I understand what you were saying K77SH C, I was just sayin' its not hard for any team to have PAto as their close-to-best player as he is simply brilliant.

I wanted to say its not just the pace ( yes, its also that incredible pace), he is simply smart, has the feeling for a goal, passes, he has everything to be brilliant.
but again, yes, the players with the pace are the players we need - FLAMINIIII!!!!

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Im not afraid to say that Bojan Krkić will never be as good as PAto. Not coz Im a milanista, I would say the other way if I thought so. But Pato has the brasilian magic that europeans simply lack, and it always makes the difference.

To compare La Liga and serie a and the way forwards play in there shown that its 3 times easier to play as a forward in La Liga. But to be honest, this seria a, by quality, if far behind the old serie a in the 90's when the defences were above this world!

But, also to say this. Krkic was raised in Camp Nou. And he had time and adjustment to walk into super attacking team like Barca.

Pato played half of a professional season and signed for AC Milan. Came here and played with a team where the's no normal attacking player but Kaka'. Same this year, where he has all the pressure on himself.

I doubt a player like Krkic could have scored 19 goals in 31 games for Milan.

To put it simple, I think Pato is "much" better then Bojan. "much" meaning that spark that makes the difference

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on acmilan-online.com I had a discussion with some moron in which he compared young Ronaldo-FOWLER and PAto... Fowler??? Then I ended the discussion which was pure madness...
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:10   #2304

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yeah and in two years there will be no problem to rank pato in the top 3. trust me
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:28   #2305

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Hey, remember Vela and bojan are playing in clubs with top strikers Bojan vs eto,henry,messi, vela vs van persie,adebayor,Eduardo

Pato in Milan is vs finished Sheva,finished Pippo, and injured Boriello.

I will tell you something for a talented player the most important thing is always to play games! Vela and Bojan have shown great skills in the little games they had play.
pato is great, and he is playing, bojan and vela must drom one of eto,messi,henry,adebayor,eduardo (world class players).Incredible to drop one of them.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:36   #2306

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theres still this difference between playnig in La Liga, EPL and Serie A, which is the hardest for youngsters...

so for me, Pato is the best young striker out there
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I can't believe people actually is comparing Vela, Bojan and Pato.
Just wait in a few years, and sees who is still left.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:04   #2308

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You make some good points, but if Milan were to bring in Panucci he would probably see most of his time in central defense. If you're relying on a central defender to provide energy, you're in trouble right from the start. So I'm not sure how bringing in Panucci for cover on defense the rest of the season connects to the energy thing. If he can help Milan make it back to the Champions League, I don't see why anyone would be against it.
I think its a misconception that central defenders dont require 'energy'. It is no coincidence, that we only have 1 or 2 players who can contribute to a counter. Also how many of our central defenders can drive the ball into midfield? Finally, Maldini and co are consistently getting outjumped towards the end of games.

I see where you are coming from, Panucci is a class act. The fact is, most of his strengths we already have in abundance. He would be alot better for most other clubs, not convinced he will be as good for us.

Im looking forward to see the 'Energy' that Thiago will add. Also PAnucci to Milan would probably mean he will be Thiagos partner for the next 10 years.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:15   #2309

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Sheva and Pippo are not the same anymore.. apparently you're living in the past. They cannot compete with Pato anymore.. he's amongst the world's best.. they're far far away at the moment.

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you just made it silly when you mentioned the competition. why would you consider him a star if he is not able to compete.
When did I ever say he cannot compete? according to my understanding, you fabricated a statement that I supposedly said so that you could look like you are right? Are you a Republican?

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do you how hard it is to be in pato's shoe and still you score 20 goals in 1 year?
No I dont.. dont speak as if you do.. I won't reply to any further of your ridiculous points since they're based on things I never said. You're like Goal.com.. you hear what you want to..

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But, also to say this. Krkic was raised in Camp Nou. And he had time and adjustment to walk into super attacking team like Barca
It's not easy to walk into a team with Henry, Messi, Eto'o and Hleb.. and he was only 17 years old last season which was arguably a very good one. Obviously he's not as good as Pato right now. Pato is the best under 21 in the world unquestionably.

What I said was - "Bojan's not as good as Pato yet but there is no reason for us to assume that he won't in the future"

For all those who think that this means Bojan is better than Pato, it really means this - 'Bojan has never been as good as Pato. He is very talented and has scored over 1000 goals for Barca youth team. Do not underestimate his abilities in spite how unbelievably good Pato is.

I stand by it in spite of what Mrki and an idiot said.. what annoys me is that there seems to be an air of childish responses to my post. Kaka's my favourite player.. he's the only player whose jersey i own.. both home and away.. but I think both Messi and Ronaldinho are more talented than him.

P.S. - Mrki I agree what you say about South Americans and Europeans.. I think it's the street football shown in movies that sets them apart.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:25   #2310

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I want to add one thing
if borrielo wasnt injured in the first place,then pato would be on the bench like he started this season because of our clown coach..
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